I have a 30" Bartlein 1-9 barrel. With the 245 Berger EOL (same loads as the 245 LRHT) I'm loading 81.0 H1000, Lapua case, CCI 34 primers and getting velocities around 2930 seated .070 off the lands with excellent accuracy and consistency.

I have a feeling you need more powder (gas) to make it effective. I would assume a lot of gas energy from a 308 vs WM has been neutralized in the baffle stack by the time it hits the brake part. An 18" creedmoor should have a lot of gas expansion left over to make use of the brake ports. At least, that's my theory.

mosin46 said:

MGs going into Mexico? odd but maybe the cartels are gonna try and take Mexico up front. would think the cartel fighters already here would keep them for use here. a lot look brand new. where are they getting brand new M4s and AKs?

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A lot of them have been saying they plan to take back the parts if the country "the US stole from them." For a long time. If you look close though. They haven't been taking it back with MGs.

Maybe here:

BO 306-06

Not finding any of the medium rings in steel about.

Unless you have a compelling operational need for steel rings and bases, BO 306-06A (for 20 MOA alloy base) and 306-63 Alloy 34mm Medium rings are readily available, and are plenty strong and 50% lighter. What caliber rifle are you planning on using them for??

Price drop to 4k

I must say the Garmin Xero has been a God send for 22lr.

It's nice not being driven crazy buy unexpected results, seeing high/low fliers on target and knowing it was the ammo not me takes away a lot of frustration.

Although chronying everything has made me realize just how bad some ammo is and just how much variability there can be between batches.

Emerson0311 said:

It’s the ammo, and perhaps the factory barrel. I had the same vertical spread with that level of ammo.

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The ES of the ammo suggests a 7" tall group at 211m so 8-9" isn't bad with that in mind.

I've spent a lot of time recently testing different ammo/batches at distance and basically decided long range results are 100% ammo ES based.
Have seen it enough times now, groups much taller than they are wide, and more or less the exact height the ES calculates in Strelok.

Hoping to get hold of some R50 soon and will see how that goes.
Will zero and shoot groups at 30m and if the ES is good go straight out to 200m+.

mosin46 said:

said this many times and you are totally correct. "render unto Cesar". helps the gov get their piece and justifies using their lethal police power to force everyone to follow your controlling "moral" code. Islam being built on the combining of church and state. Christianity and Judaism use a 2 sided mutually supporting process to control the population and enrich both. "render unto Cesar" but let our huge churches and multiple property and financial holdings off tax free.
both gov and religion are all,and only,about control,control,control. i always thought that freedom OF religion should also include freedom FROM religion. that varies a lot of course over time and location.

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Lol. To be a human is to be a servant. To only serve yourself (cuz freedum) is the definition of immorality in all it's flavors (both Socratic and theological), and the view of a selfish child.

We choose to whom and what we serve, and THAT is liberty. If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice. Pretend you aren't a slave all you want, but even if you simply follow your desires and deny yourself nothing in the name of freedum you are a slave to these urges and wants. You can't see the forest for the trees.

To be truly free is not to do whatever your urges may demand, but to choose to be a slave to something larger and more meaningful than yourself. I feel very sorry for you that this is nothing but gibberish to you, and hope that someday the scales will fall from your eyes and your blindness flees. You have a lot of growing up to do if you think governments and churches prevent people from being free, when they are the very things that provide liberty. Absent fixed mores and government the life and culture of the body politic is nothing but the strong ruling over the weak totalitarianism. It has never been my experience that the strong who are living in liberty pine for this. It is always the weak, who think they are strong, who want chaos and think they'll emerge as rulers. This is no different than the weak and stupid believing in communism, and that they will be among the oligarchs who own everything including all the people. They think will provide for their every need invariably end up in a menial job and perpetual poverty with no hope of ever bettering themselves.

20 rounds of Hornady Black 168 Amax from an Armalite Tac18.
First groups from a Seekins/proof 6.5Grendel build. 123Eld-m and 100gr ELD-VT
Groups from a Mega MML/ARP barreled 6.5 Grendel. I put chrono data on these. Odd that the velocity from the suppressed groups was lower than unsuppressed. Different than I had expected or seen before.



Initial groups from a 6.5 G budget build I did for a co-worker. These were shot with that crappy AAC Saber ammo



I’ll look to see if I still have the targets from either of the 2 Craddock RTR barrels

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Conaso said:

It does have that feature - Strelok Pro v7.3.3 Added ability to block selected rifle (data) from being accidentally changed.

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Interesting, I did message Igor asking for that change, appears it did happen.

However install the update appears to be an issue.

I had a talk with 3 different employees at a couple of local gun stores about the P320 boondoggle. All of them told me the issue was only with pre-recall 320 guns...so mine is GTG. Problem is, many of the reported self booming 320 pistols are of recent manufacture. Any how, one of the gun counter guys at a LGS told me he really likes his Smith M&P 2.0 10mm. I fiddled around with one, and frankly, I really like the ergonomics. I wasn't impressed with the trigger, but Apex makes a good after market trigger kit. I also checked out the FN 510 and the ported Performance Center Smith 10mm. I bought the non-ported Smith with the 4" barrel, and the Sig 320 is headed to Gun Broker. Thank you for the discussion.

Fence fighting... Lol

"The President’s proposal is not a serious one," she said in a post on X.' Nancy Pelosi (W)

So now the drunken democrat whore tells us what is to be taken seriously?