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The Trap is Sprung

It took the US some time to recover from that huge sucker punch we received at Pearl Harbor and be technologically up to par with Imperial Japan and the Third Reich. Prior to Pearl Harbor, we had been WAY behind Japan and Germany technologically. At one point both of the Axis giants were enriching uranium fuel for future weapon development while we were still just carrying out university experiments with fissionables. The Mitsubishi Zero had been the apex fighter craft for a few years until we shot one down over Alaska in 1943 with great difficulty. That Zero crashed into the snow and was relatively undamaged, the US pilot managing to get a great lead on the enemy plane and hit it with a burst that mainly shredded the cockpit and Swiss-cheesing the occupant. From that one Zero, Northrop-Grumman reverse engineered the thing and produced the F6F Hellcat which surpassed the Zero in speed and maneuverability. From 1943 onward it was a direct straight line uphill climb for us. All of the top secret Tier 1 tech agencies like the Skunk Works and JPL, the holy of holies throughout the intense moments of the Cold War right up to this day, started during this time whose original missions were to capture and reverse engineer Axis tech.

Look up “Operation Paperclip.”

Wicked good story! Way more than a few rocket scientists!

Sirhr
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. . . . . and whatever optic you choose, don't skimp on quality mounts.

We see these two as some of the better thought out designs coupled with very high quality materials and machining.

Unity Tactical https://unitytactical.com/product/fast-lpvo/

and

Reptilia https://reptiliacorp.com/product-ca...AUXYJzT7aJxJAnbY6-KwUlCEq3PdBo9qZv4syvphvK7ao

Both of these are super solid mounts that are bomb proof, super high quality and DON’T HAVE BIG FUCKING NUTS hanging off the side to catch on shit or rub holes in you.

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The Razor has been so good for so long that it can almost seem like no one has really bothered making anything worth mentioning to take a run at it.

If you’re open to loosening your parameters a bit, the good ol’ Steiner P4Xi 1-4 is still the next best thing to the Razor IMHO even after all these years (maybe better for some since it’s lighter and cheaper), true 1X, nuclear dot, simple reticle:

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It appears Steiner uses a reticle calibrated to 556 NATO 62gr and 7.62 NATO 175gr projectiles. That won't work. Thanks.

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No budget to work within.

By BDC, I'm referring to reticles with stadia marks based on a specific cartridge. A definite no go.

I'd rather have the stadia evenly disturbed. Example, every 5 moa or 2 moa.

The dials don't need to be exposed. Using holdovers is preferred.

I haven't heard much good regarding the Sig Tango. While the extreme opposite is true of the Vortex Razor.

I'm just surprised that the options are so few.
As others have mentioned, the Razor 1-6 GenII is still a super star.
Even compared to it's newer 1-10 Gen III brother, it doesn't compromise on anything and is super solid.

We have a lot of LPVOs show up in classes when we run Overwatch blocks as part of the course. The Razors represent heavy and I can tell you that a bunch have been used hard. It is common to see them with anodizing worn off, dents on the edges and dings on the turret caps. They just keep running. They are not being abused. They are being used. A lot.

When you look at the wear points and typical damage/dings to these type scopes on work guns, it kind of makes my argument about not having exposed turrets on a working LPVO. Keep them covered and protected. You won't be dialing for hits in a work environment.

Note that I have a couple of ATACR 1-8 and an NX8 1-8. They are fantastic scopes for what we use them for but if I had to outfit 1 or 100 work rifles and make them dummy proof, I would go with the Razor.

This video of OHP porting a windshield and tagging good hits into a truck during a chase probably sold them a gazillion Razor 1-6s. Login to view embedded media

LPVO-second focal options

I'm interested in LPVO options that fit the following criteria:
Second focal
MOA dials
MOA reticle (no bullet drop compensation setups)
Illuminated reticle

I've found the Vortex Razor HD 1-6 and Sig Tango 6T 1-6. Any others I've missed?

Appreciate the help!

-Stan

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What you putting it on and use? I have had Razors for about 12 years now on my ARs and it’s a great optic in your specs. Used it for a few years in 3 gun and more for just fun range use. Been tossed in many barrels at matches and no issues so I know it’s tough but if there was and I slammed it into something harder than I should or drop it then I know I am covered which is great also.

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Optics will sit on 13.5" Tier 1 JP15LE rifles.