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143lrsd · Aug 5, 2025

tinker said:
Sometimes I make 10-15%, online sales I even lose money sometimes. And they still want a discount.

I had one asshole in my store demanding a 10% discount because he was in the army 50 years ago. I literally showed him my cost on the computer screen and explained my sticker price I was making about 40 dollars profit on a 500 dollar gun. The dipshit insisted I chip in and pay for some of his gun....I threw him out.

Cz455guru · Aug 5, 2025

jabonra said:
I know you want to shoot the heavies but have you considered some of the lighter solids like senecas?

Ya I certainly have, wish they were cheaper, my curiosity may get the best of me tho sometime. I wasn't able to get the 95 Seneca to shoot very good out of my 6 dasher so thats also causing some hesitation.

NHPiper · Aug 5, 2025

Anyone have an SP10? Curious if the G upper drops into the SP10 lower in the office chance they sell just the upper at some point.

JParanee · Aug 5, 2025

Jingoist said:
I'm equally impressed with that combination metal spork/can opener ration tool, sir! Very nice.

I used to do a lot of mountain hunting were oz’s count

XP1K · Aug 5, 2025

The nato potatoe. Yeah, I'm gonna borrow that.

The potatoe and the gay tiger sound like a good pair.

sharac · Aug 5, 2025

Use AI to gameolay few scenarios were basically done for, there is no way to fix this best case is orwellian new duo/tri polar world with serious population reduction AND much lower quality of life. All other scenarios are either impossible to implement (no political will and population unwilling to accept reality of less pain now for longer time vs kick the can) or are incompatible with human life (like increased radiation and local “hotspots with extreme sunburn”).
So pour yourself a glass while you can and tell fuck off to those who need to hear it.

straightshooter1 · Aug 5, 2025

DeathBeforeDismount said:
You still have carbon left in necks after wet tumbling.....

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Wet tumbling without media does leave some of that carbon in the neck. But usually not enough is left for decent lubrication. Whenever I wet tumble, which is on rare occasions, that's how I do it when I've got a bunch of brass that's got a bunch of dirt, mud and grim inside, then I'll wet tumble to be sure the interior is cleaned out. But wet tumbling adds more time to processing, having to go through the effort for rinsing and drying them out. While with dry tumbling, there is that time getting the media out of the case, but that time is way less than that for wet tumbling.

Nothing wrong with taking the extra time that wet tumbling requires and the time for lubing the necks also. It's all really just a matter of preference anyway. But it's nice to know what's involved with any of the choices to make an informed decision.

Basher · Aug 5, 2025

*SOLD!*

For sale is 240rnds of Hornady 6.5 Grendel ammo:

-200rnds Hornady “Black” 123gr ELD-M
-40rnds Hornady Custom 123gr SST

I would prefer to sell as a lot for $275 FTF near Lafayette, IN or surrounding areas. I’ll ship for $290 even, but may need some time to get to a location that will take it. Thanks!

codym · Aug 5, 2025

I don’t have a 6.5 creed but have several 25 creeds 6 creeds and 6 dashers. I also have a 20’ 260AI. The 260 has been very impressive to me. I run 140 hybrids at 2830 and the 156’s at 2720 with RL 16, pretty darn impressive to me out of a 20’ barrel. Recoil out of my 25 creed (both 12 pound NRL light rigs) is almost indistinguishable to me 140 2830 vs 135 (2860) and my real world wind holds are generally the same obviously slightly more drop with the 260. My favorite creed is still the 6. Super easy to tune significantly less recoil that the 25 or 260 and the ballistics with the 109 hybrid at 3030 line up very closely to my 25. The 6 creed has been simple to tune where the 25’s have been much finickier. The easiest of all with the least amount of recoil and best barrel life is the dasher just simple 105/109 hybrids, varget and cci450’s 31-32.2 grains will have you shooting tiny little groups. I doubt there’s a wrong answer and these are just my observations/opinions. Honestly pick one and if you really get into it you most likely will want to try something different in a barrel or two… that’s part of the fun

stello1001 · Aug 5, 2025

DeathBeforeDismount said:
Yea I only spend about 30k a year traveling to shoot matches where precision is paramount to throw it all away by wet tumbling......use your brain.

There is zero difference in sd/es between methods... Unless you count stuck media and other shit in your cases effecting internal ballistics.

Pure ignorance.

Wow, I'm so impressed.

Rob01 · Aug 5, 2025

The Zermatt TL3 also has never given me a hiccup. May be something with those CRF action.

jbell · Aug 5, 2025

popeye089 said:
Free Bump for a cool AF rifle. For those that don't know, those early B & C prefix Surgeons were nasty. A time when Wade & Dave worked there. I believe this early B would've been considered a "581 action" I had one once and sold it to fnd another project. One of my regretted sales in my life

Agreed, I had 2 GAP built B prefix Surgeon action based rifles many years ago. I haven’t owned a better action, some as good but none really better.

5RWill · Aug 5, 2025

Jan 6 2021. Load development for my 6.5x47 with 130gr SMKs. Best 5 shot group i had ever printed leading up to the last shot you see in the bottom left corner for the group. It will always haunt me.

Maser · Aug 5, 2025

You probably just have the sights mounted in the wrong spot. Let this pic help you:

Sum Ting Wong · Aug 5, 2025

Looks like the ring cap is touching the base here…

JParanee · Aug 5, 2025

Hennig said:
Operation TRG restoration is pretty much complete. This was one of my worse used purchases. It was sold as “minor rust on the mags but everything else sweet” - after receiving it I discovered a horribly corroded barrel, bolt that was rusty and corroded, with the ejector and extractor springs 80% pure rust, a stock that had a few coats of miserable rattlecan on it, missing hardware, and yes, some trashed mags haha.

While I probably should have sent it back, it ended up being a bit of a restoration project, and this is what I ended up doing.

- replacement new takeoff 6.5cm TRG barrel
- @lumleyarms bolt handle, which I bent.
- bolt fluting to remove as much of the surface corrosion as possible
- @krg_ops Folding TRG buttstock
- full tear down, soak, blast, and fresh dark Cobalt cerakote on the metalwork.
- fresh coat of Highland Green on the forend and grips.
- replaced the extractor/ejector springs

I wish I’d taken more “before” photos - but I went straight into “fix it” mode when it arrived. While it would have been WAY easier to send it back and spend a bit more on a clean TRG, at least we bought it back from the death.

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Great stuff but I feel for you. I recently had a similar experience

I was on a streak with all these barn find old new stock rifles and than it happened…….. poorly listed item with only one pic but after a long phone conversation I was assured by one of the dealer personal that the gun was lightly used and well maintained …… ya figure how bad could a 308 be

The whole deal started bad …. The rifle got lost for 10 days. USPS is very bad these days

They first told me it was shipped …. Than I was told it was at my FFL ….. than I was told fed ex accidentally picked it up with a USPS label and they were holding it. Miraculously it arrived on day 11 and was packaged poorly and the box was beat up

Upon inspection the gun was beat to shit. Damaged crown …. Chamber looked like it was worked on with a power drill and a wire brush. The barrel was badly pitted . I dont think they ever cleaned the barrel …. The copper ran out of it and exposed a shot rifle

The bore scope made me sick. I immediately had my ffl overnight it back UPS the way a gun should be shipped called them in the am and said the gun would be back to them by 10 am and i expected a refund bt 12

Even though they said all sales were final and no refunds Amex confirmed a refund shortly after noon

If the guy didn’t represent the rifle completely opposite of what it was i would not have been so pissed

Amazes me of how people treat a good gun

I was glad I did a few days later I found a 26 inch barrel the first was 20 digi cam rifle that was never shot and i am impressed it wants to shoot
I commend you on the project

secondofangle2 · Aug 5, 2025

The best way to get rid of pulse is to throw that thing in the dumpster and get a different machine

secondofangle2 · Aug 5, 2025

pbguy420 said:
@secondofangle2, thanks for the guidance on the trigger.

I have done the following and got to about a 1lb trigger that feels safe to me.

I stoned the trigger bar on its sear interface,

Stoned the sides of trigger bar to mirror (hoping it would slide easier)

Applied some lapping compound to trigger pin (600grit) and spun it inside of the trigger pin hole of the trigger with a drill (super carefully and not much) - just knocking down the significant drill marks (this probably did almost nothing, but it felt gritty when I let the trigger spin freely on the trigger pin initially and now it's smooth) - if anyone does this, go about it super carefully so you don't enlarge the trigger pin hole, we're just trying to debur essentially

Filed about 1mm off the trigger weight adjustment set screw. I essentially took the non-threaded cone off the set screw. This allows me to feel more comfortable than 1/4 turn or so of thread engagement, gives me a turn or two, plus blue loctite, so it's not coming out, but it's lighter than before.

Picture is average of 5 pulls.

I wonder, did you remove the actual sear or and work on it or do all your work on the trigger bar?

Don't get me wrong, I'm content with pull weight and how crisp it is, I just wonder if there's more that could be done.

I really wish there was just a touch of pretravel tho. This single stage feel can be challenging to predict on barricades and nonstandard positions.
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I did not remove the sear itself because it appears to be a more complicated procedure and just polishing the transfer borrow with sufficient to get better than what I had hoped for

st1650 · Aug 5, 2025

Also I have to add. I’ve had a lot of different actions for 223 size case (DTA, tikka, r700 sps, defiance anti, ARC Nuke and Archimedes) and none of them fed 100% no matter how much tuning except the ARC Nuke/Archmedes. The ARC CRF is much much more forgiving of the round presentation and doesn’t skip over or nose dive the 223.
The DTA was also pretty good for feeding at long as the rounds were over 2.50in

Thump_rrr · Aug 5, 2025

41.2gr in Lapua brass is my go to with 2 different rifles and 3 different bullets.
140 Berger Hybrid Target, 139 Lapua Scenar, and 147 Hornady ELD-M.

koshkin · Aug 5, 2025

Ronin22 said:
You didn't get the memo? You, me, anybody can contract out to a Japanese (LOW) manufacturer the specs we want in an optic to sell.

Integrix scopes have nothing to do with LOW.

ILya

91Eunozs · Aug 5, 2025

26/30 as well … 87%

We used to have “Bundy Sunday” at our house when I was at pilot training in Enid, Oklahoma… Sunday cookout for our class, and friends/family, and then we’d watch Married with Children, and The Simpsons. Haven’t watched The Simpsons in years now though, but remember the “Simpson’s Did It” episode of Southpark!

TonyAngel · Aug 5, 2025

From what I understand, going with a barrel that short will seriously neuter a 5 56 round, but a good defensive round in 5.56 will still be more effective than most handgun rounds out of that barrel length.

Its fun to shoot too, if fireballs are your thing. A buddy of mine has one. He put one of those linear comps on it hoping it would divert some of the blast. Putting a flash suppressor on it was a waste of a flash suppressor. Putting a brake on it turns it into a machine of masochism. You can also put a K can on it and wind up with the equivalent of a 12.5 in length with much less bark.

I say, if you have the itch, buy it. If you get tired of it, you can always convert it to 300BO, which is what I chose for that barrel length. That, a suppressor and subs. A new definition of fun.

st1650 · Aug 5, 2025

Old MDT polymer were excellent for a long throated 223 but sometime misfeed 300blk.
New MDT metal are fine although expensive and you need to file the front plastic shell to go 2.55in. Not hard just a bit of a pain. Still my favourite one for match 223.
5rnds accurate are excellent. I run then for my 204r and 300blk on my coyote guns. No issues.
4rnds Hawkins hunter are excellent too but won’t fit all dbm. Had to send my HNT26 for warranty service to get the latest gen that fits them. They also don’t work with 223 tikka Aics bottom metals without modification. Max coal is 2.475in, I think.
Magpul AICS 223 I think is the best for 300blk or very short coal 223 base rounds.

One thing to note is that they all kind of have a different latch height so mix and matching sometimes doesn’t work and you’ll have either the bolt drag on the top of the feedlips or bolt skipping a round. A chassis with adjustable latch height helps with this.

Longshot231 · Aug 5, 2025

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