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Cleaning the leade area only per Lilja instructions question

p5200
My guess is to follow their directions, you'd have to use a cleaning loop because a jag would allow patch to fall off correct? Their instructions are,
(We suggest cleaning in the following manner. After approximately 100 rounds push a dry loose patch through the barrel from the breach end. This pushes out loose fouling. Then take a tighter dry patch and work it back and forth about 10 times in the leade area, pushing it out of the barrel at the muzzle end when finished. ) The patch would fall off of a jag using the back and forth motion. They don't say to use a loop but, seems the only way I know of, to keep the patch in place. Pushing dry loose patch out muzzle could be done using a jag for the first step. Also, are these jags worth it to prevent false positives of copper fouling? If so I'll order one Thanks! (y)

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AR-15 Barrel Advice

LRRPF52
We typically spend more money on gas, match fees, and food for the trip to and from the range than the low price point barrels.

No reason to even entertain the idea of cheap barrels, unless you’re getting a deal on a factory blow-out/inventory clearance sale from reputable brands from periods of time in their history where they actually made a consistent, quality product.

The JP Cryogenic-treated barrels are known performers in accuracy and longevity for high volume close range/intermediate range matches.

A buddy of mine gave me what he thought was a burned-out JP 18” RLGS barrel with the thin profile under the handguard, radiators, and muzzle brake.

I built it into a nice AR and the thing still shot 1/2 MOA groups with 69gr SMK, and even bug-holed with 55gr .223 Rem. My buddy said he ran M855 through it by the case doing DM courses up at Lewis for the Striker Brigades back in the 2000s.

There are several JPs that had over 25,000 rounds though them that still held MOA, even with noticeable throat erosion to the naked eye.

If I was shooting 2-Gun in .223, JP would be an easy answer for me. With a can, I’d look at the 14.5” MLGS with maybe a RifleSpeed AGB and get the gun tuned. Those Thermal Dissipators actually work on the JP barrels when shooting high volume, and are a great combo to the overall system. You won’t see a difference between a high-end barrel and the JP with Thermal Dissipator fins shooting a few groups for accuracy/precision comparison, but you will see the JP retain its point of aim/point of impact better over long strings of fire.
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Ukraine war Bullshit.

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Gunfighter14e2 said:
Nukes are not the problem,... the/a mindset is more dangerous. Given US history one or two devoted folks can lock down a huge area. Now game that to ground with a much larger group of people that are just as devoted but have intimate knowledge on many levels of power generation, transportation, medical services, media ect,...
People have become so complacent, if their phones die so do they,....
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Ukraine war Bullshit.

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Darayavaus said:
M4s and AR15s are not going to change anything in Ukraine. we've shat out 10's of thousands of them over there already, and the Russians have been capturing them from the beginning. As everyone here who actually shoots already knows, they are ancient technology, not superweapons.

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Why are you posting photos of ar15s in Georgia from 2008?
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They appear to sport these “Punisher” logos, too.

I thought that was a fetish only we had, that they were only considered cute in our "culture."

Note choice of adjective: “Game - changing.” Applied to almost every weapon we have gifted to them so far.

Game - changing HIMARS.

Game - changing F-16s.

Game - changing M1Ax and Leopard tanks.

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Even Google's AI bot has kept track.
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do you think using click bait opinion articles written to attract ad revenue, as written gospel of battlefield effectiveness,might just be a flawed line of reasoning, or are you so deep rooted in being spoon fed things on the MSNBC boob tube that this provides you an opportunity to feel like you've "hah gotcha" moment all on your own?
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Another shooting at a Christian school.

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babyguppy said:
per CNN - self-inflicted, dead

Shooter is dead, law enforcement sources say​

The suspected shooter at a Catholic school in Minneapolis is dead, with two law enforcement officials familiar with the matter saying it was self-inflicted.
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If it was a white male Trump supporter, we would already have his full biography…
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Gunsmithing What are you guys using now days to clean and lube?

kthomas
Herb Stoner said:
I’ve been using a few KG products over the last couple of years so those are on the cleaning bench along with Wipe Out and usually a can of CLP.

So many great products out now that the better question is: What won’t you use? What have you used that you will no longer have on your bench?

I’ll start… Hoppes
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KG-12 at $305/Gal 🤯
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