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Ah... primacord/detcord... now it all makes sense!

Sirhr

Bullet weight sorting is next to useless IMO, outside of finding the odd bullet of the completely wrong caliber / weight class. Assuming of course, *good* bullets ie Berger

padom said:

I have a QuietKat Ibex i got for the deep backcountry fly fishing. Put a rack on the front to put waders, boots, rod tubes, cooler, etc in. 4.8" tires, full suspension. Rip in 20, 30, 40 miles in hiking shoes. Get to location. Gear up and fish. Then at dark, pack up and rip out.

Thing is a beast, but more for your trail riding or fields, etc.. long distances and carrying gear no problem. But I had issues a few times with mine on rugged mtb trails, rocks, etc.

Broke a chain a few miles in first week I got it, bent derailed hanger on rock 20 miles in another trip. Couldn't shift, luckily got out on one gear. Then the last straw was a blown freewheel 5 miles in. Had to push and carry the heavy ass 80lb bike back to car. Was furious

So I got these 2 Giants. Stupid light CF frames, crazy distance capable. Climbing monsters. Less than half the weight of my ibex .. so no loading a rack with gear. But we just got back from Maine. Wore waders and boots to bike in 20 miles. Orvis pack with 2 rod tubes. We did that every day we were there and bike were excellent. Still had 65% battery left riding in Eco for 30- 40 miles each day.

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Now you know what I was meaning when you first got the QuietKat last year. Your QK and my Bakcou are somewhat similar. More of what I call a "truck bike" except not up to serious MTB trails but still good for hauling stuff.

Glad you got the Giant EMTB's! These type 1 EMTB's are much more fun.

Besides the old Storm I have 3 EMTB's now. Most of my friends and family either don't have the money or the interest to buy their own EMTB......
Mine are the Orbea Wild in Medium which is my go-to, Husqvarna Extreme Cross in medium but it's more the size of a large(great for bike parks), and YT Decoy in small size. My daughter and DIL are less than 5 feet tall and one friend is 5'5", all which the small is best for. This is a good situation because even though these people aren't in shape for riding MTB they can handle EMTB for a couple hours.

I have a group of older guys I ride EMTB with and we met a guy our age riding a nice Yeti MTB so he went with us the next week. It about killed him and we had to keep stopping to wait for him a lot. I'll be curious if he ever rides with us again or if he buys a EMTB.

I've been researching how to fix my yard and this guy is the best I've found at explaining/demonstrating how to do it.

What brought this thread up?

I'm going to give it a big Democrat Whore rating.

Moto41 said:

Ok…great intel.

Would you go and build one on an MDT chassis with say a Detroit barreled action etc? Never shot one and want to build one. Is there a huge difference between something like that and a good off the shelf rifle? Not to say $ isn’t an object, but would spend it you said it was that much difference. Thank you sir!

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I wouldn’t build on any action that you can not buy a shouldered prefit barrel for. I wouldn’t buy a factory rifle if you are serious about accuracy. You can get a long action Zermatt Origin for $1000, a 28” PVA Osprey 9 twist shouldered prefit barrel in a nice heavy contour, trigger and stock of choice and be on the way.

Never heard of a Detroit barreled action. Sorry.

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the 2 party system is irrevocably corrupt. having just 2 leads to the clown show in congress and the partisan judicial BS. if a 3rd party gained enough backing to put in about 6-10 senators and 100 or so reps,it might have something. similar to the system in Europe. and yes,that has its own problem set. the history of 3rd parties is as said above. Nader,Perot,TR all gave us poor outcomes. TR the worst. since the dims and reps always produce candidates that have no biz in power,many are willing to vote 3rd party. the story of the libertarian party is about the same. tends to pull votes that would go Rep in its absence. of course,getting a rep pres is never a very good outcome. Trump might be the exception but it is looking doubtful.
is Elon a liberty loving guy or a greedy corrupt one? opinions vary. i have no idea.
the hard lt had an easy time taking over the dim party. they were already numerous and deep in it's power base. taking over the rep won't happen. hasn't worked before. the corrupt war mongers that run it have control at every level and the $s to keep it.

Ttt

Threadcutter308 said:

@Dirty D, for one........

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Who is right in line behind Shankster.

"Pimp Yo Hefties" was his handle...

It doesn't get better than that!

Sirhr

Freedom of speech doesn't mean it is free from criticism.
Idiots out themselves.

R

So, OP,

Moto41 said:

I’m going down the rabbit hole of building a good PRS rifle and REALLY curious what caliber to build. Really this would be to reach out beyond 1000 yards and at the same time, not rip my face off shooting a ton of rounds.

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"PRS" and "beyond 1000 yards" don't mix - at least here in the central Atlantic region. Maybe things are different in Texas and other wide-open regions, but the farthest I've ever shot in a PRS-style match is 1100ish yards and the vast majority of targets are inside 700.

I started this class of competition 7+ years ago with a 6.5 Creedmoor. This (2025) is my 2nd year competing with a 6BR. With a 10mph full-value crosswind, 1000-yard elevation/wind holds for 6.5mm 140gr and 6mm 105gr bullets at 2775fps vary by around 1.0/.5 mils respectively. At 500 yards, there is less than .2 mils difference between the two.

In return for dialing in that extra bit of "up" and holding a tenth or two or three more wind, I cut my powder consumption by a third, barrels last longer*, and it's easier to control recoil and see splash off props. Worst downside less splash to aid in determining correction. I'll take the tradeoff for sure.

Of course, if I shoot a match at one of the venues where longer ranges and higher wind are the norm, I'll screw the Creedmoor barrel back on. I've shot the mile my Creedmoor. It is in no way shape or form meant to shoot that far with consistent accuracy. Expecting a 6GT-class round to shoot accurately at that range is just silly.
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* Anecdotal. I sold two 6.5CM rifles before their barrels wore out (with full disclosure of round count to the buyers), and my current 6.5CM barrel still shoots well at 2500 rounds. My buddies all report 2500ish round barrel life for that caliber with "sane" handloads. No one I know has worn out a 6BR barrel yet; one guy has 3500+ rounds on his and it's still good.
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Moto41 said:

once I reach out to 1250 and beyond, it is much tougher to hit. Mile is almost impossible.

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So now you're in "ELR" territory, not PRS. In this space, a .300 NM makes sense. If you want to stay with factory ammo, .300 PRC may make more sense from an ammo availability perspective.

I've only shot a .300 PRC once; it was a buddy's 12ish-pound hunting rig. It had a big 5-port brake on it. Recoil wasn't terrible, but I wouldn't want to shoot a match's worth of rounds (75-100) through it. And muzzle blast was ferocious.

If you want to shoot 3/4-plus mile targets and find it difficult with a 6.5PRC, you'll kick yourself hard for wasting money on any 6mm caliber. Get your .30-cal or larger boomer and enjoy.
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theLBC said:

if it is used to oust entrenched rinos or democrap scum, i don't see a huge problem.
if the gop won't fund campaigns to replace warmongers like graham, let them have at it.
obviously running a candidate for president is stupid af.

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More along these lines. A third party could make a difference locally and in Congress. Plus, the only way a party will survive and be viable is if it can successfully get candidates elected that actually stand for the party. Even if there’s traction, the standard uniparty strategy is to temporarily placate and assimilate a third party. It’s happened numerous times.

WeR0206 said:

id be curious if any of the f-class or benchrest dudes here or at accurate shooter worry about variances in bullet overall length, case neck length, etc

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Bullet OAL, yes. Easy way to reduce BC variability.

Case neck length... yes, but mainly out of OCD

tna9001 said:

You should take a look for yourself.

95% of Germans during the Nazi rule were Evangelical Christians.

In South Africa, the Dutch Reformed Church was how the apartheid regime was organized.

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The Germans were also 100% of european decent, that's a higher percentage than were Christians, so maybe that's why. Or 96% of them came from 2 parent households, so maybe that's why, or 100% of them said it was cold in the winter, so maybe that's why. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Also, as the evidence mounts, it keeps looking more and more like that narrative keeps falling apart. Seems like the scale of that event may have been massively exaggerated, including the number of people who participated in anything related to a genocide.

As far as Apartheid, they were doing what was best for everyone. You may not be comfortable with it, but it doesn't change the facts. Before European colonization, it was mud huts and constant murder with sharp sticks. Famine, war, starvation, mass rapes, disease, etc. After apartheid ended, it quickly went right back to what it was. Those are facts, no matter how they make you feel.

The D said:

I’m pretty sure shifting under load has been worked out by this version

And your list of consumables per year is exactly why I’m looking at this. Even doing my own work that stuff adds up to the cost of a gearbox pretty quick. The Gates belts last essentially forever and the only maintenance the Pinion needs is an oil change every 10,000 miles

I’m not a cross country rider tracking weight by the gram so the weight isn’t that relevant. It’s also on the lowest, most central part of the bike where it will be less noticeable

I’ve actually built this already in my head. The bike clanging around my noggin is one of the unbranded Chiner titanium hardtail frames with some sort of mid-grade build. Then trickle in various carbon fiber and titanium pieces/hardware as funds allow

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I wish there was another way to do the chain drive train other than having a derailleur hanging down but it is what it is. I managed to bend the derailleur on two of my bikes. The bike shop just bent them back but the shifting is barely acceptable on one of them. It's kind of a back up ebike(the old Bakcou Storm) so I left it alone not wanting to dump money into it. I basically only use it nowadays for getting firewood back in the FS via the trailer I have for it.

Suppose also until they refine a transmission better than Pinion is now I'll stay with old conventional drivetrain. Though it would be neat to have a transmission that was smooth and seamless between all the gears.

Are CVT transmissions being developed more> saw a video about a prototype one time??

I'm not super happy with my GX Eagle because the shifting is delayed slightly and when it's cold out it gets more sluggish or a shift is ignored like the signal didn't arrive so I have to push the shift button again. The battery on my ebike supplies the power to the GX motor so I don't need to be concerned there, however I changed the battery on the shift controller which didn't help much(a little better) at the time last winter. That same controller battery is still in my bike and the shifting is fine now because it's summer time.

748rpilot said:

Let's also bear in mind, these people are in fact celebrating and cheering for the death of over 2 dozen children.

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Make no mistake, these are the same people who champion abortion rights; they hate children……..right up until they use “it’s for the children” to claim we shouldn’t have the right to bear arms or to restrict our freedoms in other ways. Demented minds apart from God.

Then you probably won’t be changing to anything that doesn’t have a 1/4 mil reticle.

Pm inbound

That is very true on reading the reticle, I just find it much easier to have consistency. I had multiple reticles in the past and was so much easier when I consolidated down to SCR 2 1/4 for all my match rifles. When I shoot my SCR 2 reticles it makes me focus and think a bit more now that I’m used to the 2 1/4.

I use this for weed control. Looks expensive, but only requires about 5 oz for 20 gallons of solution.
I'm also putting in a dedicated landscape well for the lawn, trees.