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Is loading for non-match grade 223/556 even worth it right now?
Primers are three time the price and powder is at least 50% higher.
I just purchased a case of PMC 55g for less than $0.40 / rnd.
Yeah I understand that, I've been able to pick up some bulk ammo for .38 a round. Totally understand the cost savings isn't there my thought was just to be able to load a lighter recoiling round and get some experience loading rifle ammo before getting to accurate loads. Maybe I just have it ass backwards and the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

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After killing unarmed man, Texas deputy told colleague: 'I just smoked a dude'

Upon further investigation, the judge denied the cop qualified immunity. So, sounds like he's going to pay.


But, but, but you said the dead guy was 100 percent responsible.

Skipped the kisunla treatment today?
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Apparent over pressure from mild load

G'day all

Im scratching my head on this one. Need some assistance.

Running a 6.5 PRC
28" Custom barrel SAAMI Chamber (.533 web)
on tikka t3 action.

153.5 Berger Hybrid Target
ADI 2217 (H1000) at 50.5grn (4.5grn below book max)
Surplus Indian Army LRP
Norma Brass trimmed to 2.015"
Loaded neck OD = .2935
Shoulder bumped back 0.002" after full length resize using SAC bushing die and mandrel
COAL 3.05"
Approx 25 thou jump to lands
Case capacity measured to 70.5grn h20

Velocity measured to 2915fps via Xero chrono which is super fast at this charge weight according to the book...
Using GRT this load is showing a pretty mild pressure curve...and certainly well below max


But, I have been getting excessive pressure signs; from the minimum charge upto 52.5grn
Heavy bolt lift/clickers
Cratered primers
Blown primer x2 once with a stuck case and torn rim from extractor claw
Ejector swipes
Primer pockets lose/unuseable after 2 firings on some pieces of brass.

Before you crucify me for running over pressure I have tried 2 different bullets and 2 different powders starting low and working higher. All showing signs of OP. 50.5grn has been fairly stable except for the clickers.

Really the only other variable to change is the brass (I've heard Norma can be very hit/miss on its QC and often produces soft brass) and I am heavily leaning towards this as the problem I am facing and wondering if anyone else thinks could be the issue...
However it dosnt explain the vast increase in velocity I am recording compared to what the book is saying...

Any insight on wtf is going wrong with this would be helpful. I have thought of everything I know and will be first to admit I don't know everything.
You said your "GRT is showing a pretty mild pressure curve" and so does my QL app. In fact, the curve is VERY low. While you say you're at "minimum charge up to 53.5 gr", that "minimum is based on who's reported minimum charge and case volume? Norma case volumes are 3-4 grs more in volume than other brands, so you could be well below recommended minimum case charge??? And, as I look at the powder charge of 50.5 grs ADI 2217 in my QL app, it's showing the case filled to only 85.5% (given your reported case volume). Case fill that low would give me concern for high pressure spikes, which is known to happen with a very low case fill. This may not be "THE" factor going on, but I have a feeling it's contributing a lot to it.

For my 153.5's in my PRC, I've never used H1000 or ADI AR 2217. I like to run 57.5 gr N565 behind 153.5's producing 2,980 fps out of a 26" barrel. But I've often seen reports for charges of ~57 grs of H1000 producing around 2900 fps. That why what you're reporting is a little shocking to me. My QL app shows a 50.5 grs of ADI AR 2217 produce ~ 2500 fps and ~50 fps more with case volumes reduced to what I get with my thicker case wall Lapua brass. I just can't imagine 400 fps difference that you're getting without something causing an unusually high pressure spike.
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India vs Pakistan

yea,Indians are always GTG to kill Muslims. not a bad thing really. how would the Buddhists and Catholics fare? what might be the effect in this country,ESP universities and containing cities? eg Gainseville,FL. and UF are over run with dot heads and rag heads. maybe some hot action like Palestinian and Jewish disorder all over the university world. of course you got the huge #s of PLA spies throughout academia but don't think they would join in.
Christians are being persecuted in India severely- beaten and killed, churches being torn down with little to no police action.

Buddhists are catching it hard too, but there is real animosity between the Muslims and Buddhists. Don’t believe everything you hear about Buddhists being super peaceful- there was a genocide on the Rohingya group in Myanmar and the Indian Mujahadeen went all FAFO and blew up part of the Bodh Gaya in Bihar (state in India). Then they did it when the Dali Lama was there after that, and that was the JMB out of Bangladesh. There are so many groups like that inside of India it’s hard to keep track of them all. They are only contributing to India’s lack of patience with the Paks.

To answer your question on universities, who knows. I have worked stateside with both Bangladeshis and Indians on the same teams. They work together OK, but they aint breaking bread after hours. I can say that I have never seen people treat each other as poorly as Indians do to each other.
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Maggie’s The Welding and Metalworking Thread

A couple of years ago, before heading to Labrador, I made a foot for my Dakar kick stand. Because it always was way too small and on dirt would sink in. The only times I ever 'dumped' the bike was kickstand crap.

But my 'new' foot (which was a smooth piece of aluminum) didn't do 'great' in part because the bolt heads were sticking up (fine no dirt.. not so good on pavement.) And I still wanted more 'height' to keep the bike more upright.

So made up a new foot. Based on Bipod claw designs. Stainless, not aluminum.

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This won't slip on anything! Stainless foot with sharp claws. I will probably leave footprints on asphalt from coast to coast! Will have the added benefit of keeping the bike more 'upright' as the original Dakar kickstand lays the bike 'way' too far over.

Going to have some fun painting it up, too. Why not?

Maybe I can park my bike on top of an ANTIFA or some kind of commie troll.

Cheers,

Sirhr

India vs Pakistan

yea,Indians are always GTG to kill Muslims. not a bad thing really. how would the Buddhists and Catholics fare? what might be the effect in this country,ESP universities and containing cities? eg Gainseville,FL. and UF are over run with dot heads and rag heads. maybe some hot action like Palestinian and Jewish disorder all over the university world. of course you got the huge #s of PLA spies throughout academia but don't think they would join in.