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Muzzle velocity difference between manufacturers

Muzzle velocity is mainly a function of the ammunition and barrel length (time under pressure). It seems reasonable to expect minor speed differences between manufacturers (all else being equal), but I wouldn't expect substantial differences. That being said, I have seen posts that suggest otherwise. Here it is.

I'm trying to build a light weight, short, suppressed back country hunting rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. I was looking at the Tikka T3x with 24" barrel, but found myself attracted to a shorter 20" barrel made by Seekins precision in their new Element Hunter. When I considered how much speed it would cost me for the shorter barrel by Seekins I looked up speeds on other outside forums that guys had posted. The results are below.
Rifle ModelBarrel LengthMuzzle Velocity (fps)Bullet / Ammunition
Seekins Element Hunter20"~2,865143gr Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X
Tikka T3x (discontinued I think)22"~2,690140gr Hornady ELD-M
Tikka T3x Roughtech24"~2,860143gr Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X
I was surprised to see that the shortest barreled 6.5PRC (by Seekins) had the highest muzzle velocity. If we assume those posted numbers to be true, the only explanation I can think of is that maybe Seekins has tighter manufacturing tolerances.

Is it even reasonable to think that might have such a great effect as to completely offset a decrease of barrel length by 4"?

Firearms 300 Blackout Upper

Spare upper I have. Haven't shot 300 blackout in years and just can't find a use for it. Less than 30 rounds down the barrel. I believe the barrel is ballistic advantage but I can't find marks to confirm it.

16 inch 1/8 barrel
Midwest industries forearm
Ambidextrous charging handle
No BCG
Forged upper
A2 flash hider

$350 obo shipped

Open to trades and offers

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Firearms Custom 300 Norma

300 Norma

Fuzion ti 1650$

Bench mark carbon barrel 750$

Lilja steel barrel 400$

Cambered both by blue mountain 575$x2

Hawkings bottom metal 225$

Trigger tech 210$

Manners eh1 810$

SMR ti muzzle break 225$

Plus bedding miscellaneous stuff 300$

Load ammo



Total $ 5,730

Sale price $4750

One price shipped

Possible trades for some scopes plus cash

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Range Report Testing the 7mm 190’s.

Tested the 190 A Tip today from 530 to a bit over 2000.
Ran some 190 hybrids and 185RDF’s as well for comparison.
Pretty decent wind as I was holding up to 3 mills today.

All three were running a safe 2850 to 2865

the RDF did pretty Good considering the price but the bullet consistency was not in the same league as the hybrid and ATip.
24 mils to 2020 at 2865 and the advertised BC is really close.


190 Hybrids were the slowest at 2850 but still a full mil less come up than the RDF.
The new hybrid is an excellent bullet.
23 mils to 2020 and once again trueing was easy as the BC is really close.

The new 190 A-tip’s stupendous BC had me doubtful as I generally have to fiddle with Hornandy BC’s consistently.
Slapped the speed and BC in the kestrel and it was basically spot on at 530, 1115, 1365, 1930 and only .3 low at 2020!
That could easily be wind related as wind was switchy all day.
Running at a leisurely 2866 it only took 21.4 to 2020.
I put 6 in a row in a 3’ painted circle with at least one hitting the gong in the middle with the A Tips holding 3 mils for wind.
That amazing BC appears legit!
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SOLD Rogue Sandbag + 3 Filler Bags

Rogue Sandbag + 3 Filler Bags. Extremely little use and well taken care of. $100 TYD USPS Priority for bag and filler bags. PayPal friends and family with no note for payment.

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Are they prepping us again, my guess is yes.

The power company's in Fla ran a op at Christmas of 1989 to 'Allow the public" to get a taste of reality. The incident changed a few minds that lead to the public demanding more base load plants be built. Before that event no one wanted those ugly & stinky plants near them to power their hair dryers and such,...
Much like the Fla event if this happens, history will show those who never rely on others for their family's safety, will all of a sudden have "Friends" that think you should bail them out of a simple life event, they deem a disaster.

https://tfppwire.com/americas-large...rns-blackouts-could-hit-millions-this-summer/


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Optics Swarovski NL Pure 10x52

I purchased these new retail and they are absolutely superb in every way. Glass is phenomenal. However, I need to fund another build so these are on the chopping block as they aren’t getting used often.

They have been babied and only used a handful of times on my back porch doing some bird watching.

Includes factory box and everything you would get as new.

Price: $2850 Shipped CONUS

Payment: Zelle or Apple Pay or a combination of the two

Feedback: I also have another 700+ all positive feedback on ar15.com

Partial trade interest:
Eotech EXPS3-0
Eotech G45
Aimpoint T2 / Comp M5s
KAC SR15 14.5 or 11.5 Upper
LMT Specwar Upper
Vortex Razor 1-10
DD MK18 RIS III Upper
Elcan Specter 1/4x
Trijicon RMR Type 2 3.25 MOA
6.5CM Ammo

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Sig Cross barrel extension - where to buy?

Hi folks - I am new to this forum and searching for information on where to get an extra extension for my SIG Cross. I read a post about Schnee working on an aftermarket version that they abandoned ~1 year ago. I have also sent the question to SIG customer service. These things seem pretty elusive.

Does anyone have a lead on where I might buy one? I am waiting for the arrival of a new barrel from Straight Jacket Armory and would refer to make swapping easier...what is the use of having a multi-caliber rifle if you need to bring a tool chest to the range for swapping barrels? :-(
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SOLD WTS: Titanium Blue MDT ACC Elite with Accessories – Rem 700 SA RH – $old Shipped

Hey Hide,

Up for sale is my MDT ACC Elite Chassis in titanium blue, right-hand configuration for Remington 700 Short Action. This chassis has only been used once at the range and is in like-new condition — zero scratches, dings, or wear.

I picked it up to experiment with different setups, but decided to stick with my ARC Xylo Chassis, so this one’s moving on to a new home.

What’s included:


  • MDT ACC Elite Chassis (Titanium Blue, RH)
  • Remington 700 Short Action inlet
  • 5x MDT ACC Interior Forend Weights
  • MDT Rubber Dampers
  • All original hardware and boxes included
This is one of the most capable chassis systems on the market, extremely tunable with added weights and dampers for optimized recoil and balance.


Price: $old shipped (CONUS)
Payment via PayPal F&F or Zelle.


Feel free to reach out with any questions or for additional pics. Thanks for looking!

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SOLD Impact 737 SA .308bf 75degree bolt ts customs crb 6.5creedmoor

Looking to sell my impact 737 right hand short action, with 75 degree bolt, .308 bolt face, and a ts customs CRB 6.5 creedmoor barrel, 26”, straight contour, threaded 5/8-24, with 1100 rounds on it. Shoots <3/8” groups with 144berger handloads.

Looking for $1800 shipped, payment via paypal f&f
Sold!!
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Angle shooting

I know I can get a cosign indicator on my rail/scope, but I don't want move it from gun to gun or buy one for every rifle.
I want to learn how to do the math longhand. From geometry (or maybe it was calculus) in HS, the saying was Oscar Has A Heap Of Apples
Opposite/Hypotenuse = sign
Adjacent/Hypotenuse = cosign
Opposite/Adjacent = tangent

So how do I do angle shooting math longhand??

Firearms Mack Evo Pork Sword 8.6 blackout

About 900 rounds on action, new bronze cerakote. Custom Arca rail, triggertech, 9” faxon barrel-unfired

$1400 shipped to your FFL. Zelle. No trades or offers

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Impact Scoring

I am the co-creator of Impact Scoring, a new scoring app tailored specifically for PRS, NRL, and precision rifle competitions. We recently launched the first public version and successfully used it at the PRS Pro Series Sharpshooter Showdown over the weekend. Our goal is for this app to become the standard in our sport, whether you're participating in a Pro Series match or simply scoring a friendly competition in your backyard or local range.

Version 1.1, our base app, is now available, and we have an exciting array of features planned for the coming weeks, months, and year. Users can register for matches directly through our app, or they can continue to use their Practiscore registrations and upload via .CSV. There's no need to synchronize between computers, tablets, and phones; All our devices automatically talk to eachother: IE you build your match out on the website (you can do it from a tablet still) it will auto upload to your tablet or phone. You can run a match entirely from a cell phone, making it accessible for smaller clubs. However, if you prefer, the app is also available for tablets on Amazon, iOS, and Google Play stores.

Scoring is live, provided you have LAN, Wi-Fi, or cell service. If connectivity is lost, the app will keep scoring live between devices, and once service is restored, it will automatically upload. Creating matches is now much easier, and we have some exciting new features in the pipeline. Match flow is simplified for the ROs, with clear target orders and "move" lines indicating when a shooter needs to transition between shots for better sequencing.

This weekend alone, our app attracted 27,000 viewers for live scoring during matches, and we believe it offers the alternative many of us have been seeking for years. If you have any questions or suggestions for features, please feel free to share them here. We have ambitious plans for Impact Scoring, and we envision it as the solution that competitive precision rifle shooting has been waiting for!

Or find it on any of the 3 major app stores
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Impact Scoring

I am the co-creator of Impact Scoring, a new scoring app tailored specifically for PRS, NRL, and precision rifle competitions. We recently launched the first public version and successfully used it at the PRS Pro Series Sharpshooter Showdown over the weekend. Our goal is for this app to become the standard in our sport, whether you're participating in a Pro Series match or simply scoring a friendly competition in your backyard or local range.

Version 1.1, our base app, is now available, and we have an exciting array of features planned for the coming weeks, months, and year. Users can register for matches directly through our app, or they can continue to use their Practiscore registrations and upload via .CSV. There's no need to synchronize between computers, tablets, and phones; All our devices automatically talk to eachother: IE you build your match out on the website (you can do it from a tablet still) it will auto upload to your tablet or phone. You can run a match entirely from a cell phone, making it accessible for smaller clubs. However, if you prefer, the app is also available for tablets on Amazon, iOS, and Google Play stores.

Scoring is live, provided you have LAN, Wi-Fi, or cell service. If connectivity is lost, the app will keep scoring live between devices, and once service is restored, it will automatically upload. Creating matches is now much easier, and we have some exciting new features in the pipeline. Match flow is simplified for the ROs, with clear target orders and "move" lines indicating when a shooter needs to transition between shots for better sequencing.

This weekend alone, our app attracted 27,000 viewers for live scoring during matches, and we believe it offers the alternative many of us have been seeking for years. If you have any questions or suggestions for features, please feel free to share them here. We have ambitious plans for Impact Scoring, and we envision it as the solution that competitive precision rifle shooting has been waiting for!

Impact Scoring


www.impactscoring.net
www.impactscoring.net
Or find it on any of the 3 major app stores

Accessories winter cleaning new items added

Whidden gun works 6 creedmoor FL bushing sizer and seater set with fulll bushing fit 225.00
Cortina Precision micro adjust sizing 6 dasher die.264 bushing 200.00
NIB Leupold BX5 15x56 binos 825.00
Greyboe Terrian stockRem 700 SA bdl bottom sporter contour $270.00

All items are OBO shipped

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