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416 Hellfire Load Development

Howdy everybody, I can’t seem to find a dedicated 416HF thread in the hide, so figured I would make one…

I’m considering building a 416HF for ELR on a Bat XL, for 515-550gr projectiles.

I know a lot of guys are currently using the 416HF on the ELR circuit. Is there anybody prepared to share information on the cartridge?

Best propellant?

Consensus on best projectile for the cartridge?

Ideal twist rate?

Things to stay away from?

Any good data or inside info?

And where the heck do I get me a MCS ELR stock

TIA

Accessories Arc'Teryx LEAF Goretex Alpha LT Gen 2 Jacket + Alpha Pant Gen 2 Multicam DEVGRU

This is a new set. Very high quality, very durable, and weatherproof GoreTex camo from ArcTeryx LEAF (much better then their retail line). Purchased a few years ago and never used them. There's a lot of adjustability with the jacket and pants and they're excellent for layering. Quiet enough for hunting, durable enough for anything (DEVGRU uses this gear).

The pants are not the LT version, which I bought originally and found the materials weren't as durable as the LT jacket, so I returned them and sourced the non LT Alpha pants instead.

This gear wasn't cheap and hard to source. I slimmed down to a size 31 and got a smaller set, but the quality isn't as good as this set that I'm listing.

Arc-Teryx LEAF Alpha L@ Gen 2 Jacket (XL) Multicam:
- New condition
- Durable waterproof/breathable shell pant for inclement conditions
- GORE TOF DSP2 (MIL) Certified
- GORE–TEX L&F 3L 30d Nylon Plain Weave

Zippers & Fly Configuration
• Centerline zip closure permits easy on/off over equipment
• Underarm zip vents enhances ventilation when worn with PPE

Cuff & Sleeves Configuration
• Arm cuff Velcro® closures permits secure seal at cuff

Waist & Belt Configuration
• Drawcord waist closure vertically routed waist drawcord minimizes interference with duty belt and PPE

Pocket Configuration
• Internal stretch zip pockets stores personal items
• Chest pockets store personal items

Logos & Label Configuration
• 4x4.5 Velcro® Upper Arm identification patches with VLite™ retention ring allowing for the application of IFF markings/devices
• Internal waterproof tuff label identifies individual uniform within sub-unit


Alpha Pant Gen 2 MultiCam (L Multicam)

A waterproof, breathable, and durable pant shell that is worn when conducting full spectrum combat or law enforcement operations in a wet weather environment.
- New condition
- GORE TOF DSP2 (MIL) Certified
- GORE-TEX 3L 40d Nylon Ripstop
- SCHOELLER® Keprotec® (instep reinforcement)
- French Regulation: AGEC Law - Article 13
- Origin of fabric: UNITED STATES
- Origin of dying: UNITED STATES

Terms:
- Jacket: $599 plus 1/2 shipping CONUS
- Pants: $549 plus 1/2 shipping CONUS
- Not interested in trades

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Optics Nightforce NXS 3-15

Both are in great condition. Glass is free of any scratches. No box for either of them. They both have the Velocity reticles. Both have HS turrets and Zero stop. 3-15 includes a NF kill flash.

The 3-15 is illuminated with Velocity 1000 LV.5

I had the 1000 reticle on a 22” 6.5cm shooting 147’s @

Price is $1,150 TYD
Buyer to cover any fees

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.17 HMR - fps all over the place

If anyone has seen my varmint posts here over the last few years you’ll know that most of my varmint kills last 2-3 years has been with a .17 hmr . 17 grain Vam CCI fps on box is 2550.
have a case -500 rounds bought pre Covid lot number ending in 049.
The rifle is a a budget Savage 93R17. A budget rifle but accurate and dependable and I don’t cry when it gets bounced on a tractor or in a truck bed .

Anyhow over years I’ve have at various times chrono’d this load - 2550 is box muzzle velocity- I’ve routinely got fps as high as 2730- almost always above 2550, almost always above 2650. A 100 fps gain is a good thing - and some rifles I’ve heard can be slightly faster than others whatever .
The problem arises in the lows 2410 is the lowest I’ve actually chronographed in this lot .
This accounts for - 3-4 stellar accurate shots and then a fifth shot can be a complete miss .
I know CCI loads nearly very one’s flavor of .17 or at least their own , federalist and Hornady and Remingtons .
Winchester/Browning iOS made by Winchester according to some .
PMC and Sellier and Bellot also load .17 but I have never seen any .
Anyone run a flavor of .17 that doesn’t have a possible 300 something fps variation possible in a single box ?
Or is this just the nature of rimfire?

First one of the year

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First one of the year - inside 20 yards on the a wood pile I didn't get around to cutting . 17hmr

Shot another one as well down by the creek- it got back in its hole but left lots of blood and hair behind .

Saw a third - a huge one but was slightly uphill from me and cows behind it so I cut east to get around it and when I came up the other side it was gone .

Damn I miss this all winter long

Accessories M&P / APEX trigger parts FREE!*

*Free + shipping.

Still working on organizing my massive parts bin (basically a shit drawer at this point). Found this bag of parts that is stock M&P trigger and some apex trigger springs (I think?). If you want them they are yours if cover shipping. Otherwise, trade me something cool. A few really cool stickers or something else cool?

Stock M&P trigger, FP block, a bunch of springs, etc... see picture.

$ is free + shipping or trade me something cool

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Reloading Equipment 7mm REM Mag Brass Sale or Trade

I’m looking to sell or trade some 7mm REM mag brass.
This is once fired brass. I was testing factory loads in a hunting rifle. So the head stamps very from Hornady, Norma, Winchester, HSM and Federal. Most places have brass listed over 1.56 per case. Make an order or trade!
There’s 485 Brass cases and 126 plated brass cases total of 611 cases. All once fired brass.
Sale price shipped to your door. $600
Trades: (I can add cash for the right deal)
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Bix n Andy trigger
MDT chassis
Binos 15x56

Optics Sig Sauer Tango MSR 1-6x24 for only $259.99

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Sig Sauer TANGO MSR 1-6X24 – 30mm – SFP - Illuminated BDC 6 - Black reduced to only $259.99, While Supply Lasts

High Performance 6x optical system with low dispersion glass
Integrated thread in throw leaver for quick magnification changes
Illuminated MSR BDC-6 reticle with 11x brightness levels
Lay flat flip-back lens covers included
Dependable waterproof, shockproof, and fog-proof performance
Includes ALPHA-MSR 1 piece aluminum cantilever mount

Sig Sauer’s Tango MSR Riflescope is a perfect addition to an AR-type platform, but works equally well on virtually any other modern sporting rifle. It utilizes a high performance 6x optical systems with low dispersion glass for a crystal clear sight picture and excellent light transmission. The Tango MSR also comes equipped with an illuminated MSR-BDC6 SFP reticle, which is composed of a precise, 1-MOA free floating center-dot in the middle of an illuminated 10.85 MOA semicircle. Directly below the center-dot and semicircle is a “Christmas Tree” of holdover points and hash marks, allowing you to effectively compensate for bullet drop and wind drift at extended ranges. Other features of the Tango MSR include an integrated throw lever to seamlessly transition between magnifications, and an Alpha-MSR cantilevered scope mount is included as well.

Scope Weight: 1.24 lbs (without mount), 1.60 lbs (with mount)
Scope Length: 11.25 inches
Magnification Range: 1x - 6x
Scope Objective Diameter: 24mm
Scope Tube Size / Mount: 30mm
Turret Adjustment (Click Value): 0.5 MOA
Elevation Turret : Capped 0.5 MOA per click
Windage Turret: Capped 0.5 MOA per click
Scope Turret Rotation: Counter Clockwise (CCW)
Reticle Position: Second focal plane
Reticle Details: MSR-BDC6 reticle
Eye Relief: 3.3 inches
Illuminated Reticle: Yes - 11 levels

Includes
Battery
Allen wrench
Manual
Lens cloth
Alpha-MSR cantilevered scope mount

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Accessories Dependabilt SideBite

Used but looks flawless $50

SideBide is a side grip and barricade stop for the SideTrak™ system. The SideBite can be attached to the SideTrak weights to give you infinite positioning for a grip or barricade stop. With one on each side, they can act as stabilizers on top of a shooting support bag.
The SideBite's clamping screw and T nut are designed with a interference fit, and preassembled with a high strength thread locker. This joint is not intended to be taken apart.
Specifications:
SideBite and knob -
6061T6 Aluminum
Hard Anodized Type 3 Clear (grey finish)
T-Nut-
Material: 303 Stainless
Thread: 1/4-28
Screws-
Material: Alloy Steel Socket Head Screw
Size: 1/4-28 x 1.25
Finish: Black Oxide

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Accessories WTS. Teslong bore scope, Magneto Speed, Mdt Mags

Teslong Bore Scope. New. This is a must have. $85



Magneto Speed with arca adapter and clamp. $140

( just the adapter and clamp are worth $150 )



Mdt mag for 22-250 ( works also w 6 and 6.5 creed ) $60



Mdt mag for 300 prc and 7 prc. $70



Vortex eyepiece and 56 mm objective flip caps ( new ) $45 for set



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