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Suppressor causing thin barrel to droop for first round - which replacement barrel?

Hey all - I'm running an AAC SPR M4 (which weighs 18 oz) on an 18" PSA .223 Wylde upper. I have no illusions about getting under 2MOA out of a PSA factory gas gun, but 2 or even 3 MOA is all I need out of this gun, which is for coyote at 150, maybe 200 yards, or less. I had a heck of a time getting it zeroed when I first put it together but finally got it to group well enough and took it hunting.

Since then, I have had two inexplicable misses and more troubles when zeroing a new scope. I have finally only today discovered (after years of frustrations) that the cold-bore shot is hitting 10+ MOA low. I know it's hard to believe that I didn't discover this until now, but when I was zeroing it, once I was able to get a decent 5-round group I was no longer concerned with where the first round may have hit, so I didn't realize there was an issue. Of course in hunting the first round is often the only round!

I talked to a smith about it today who said the problem was likely the skinny factory barrel, which was probably drooping under the weight of the can until it was heated up by the first round, then maintaining POI decently for subsequent shots. He recommended replacing the barrel with something thicker and mentioned Aero; they've got two rifle-length 18" .223 Wylde barrels, one fluted and one not - any way of knowing if they will be strong enough to clear up this first-shot-low issue? I like fluted for weight but not if it's going to contribute to this problem in any way. I wish I could give some specs on the current barrel but the item's page is showing 404 when I look at it - I could always reach out to PSA for the specs to be sure.

Many thanks, all - as mad as I am that many hunting trips have been compromised by a rifle that I was sure was properly zeroed, it is a massive relief to finally have an explanation! I'll rezero and hunt without the can for the rest of this season and hopefully have everything straight before next year.

Thank you for the advice!

SOLD Badger Ordnance COMM 30mm 1.7 high mount 0 MOA FDE

$190.00 shipped CONUS



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Accessories FS: XX-Large Reg, Gen III Polartec Mid Weight Cold Weather Waffle Fleece Grid Shirt's

Gen III Polartec Mid Weight Cold Weather Waffle Fleece Grid Shirt's
NEW TAN GEN III LEVEL II MID WEIGHT COLD WAFFLE GRID Shirt's USGI
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  • Made in the USA
  • if your confused about what size you need I have a sizing chart to break down the standard sizes.. These TOP are a base layer and are made to hug the body so that you can wear your clothes over them .
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The ECWCS Gen III Waffle Grid Base Layer Shirt's are highly breathable, moisture wicking and stretches for easy movement. Using Flat-Lock construction methods, you can count on a long service life from these Shirt's . These Shirt's are the ultimate base layer because of their excellent body heat retention capability and streamlined fit.
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  • Quick Drying
  • Made in the USA
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Accessories FS: NIB Outdoor Research Firebrand Mittens - Size Large

High - altitude patrol and work Mitts for extremely cold conditions.
Fabric Performance
Waterproof
Windproof
Breathable
Compression-Resistant Warmth
Design Features Goat Leather Palm
Moonlite Pile Fleece
Functional Details
MonoCinch™ Gauntlet Closure
Removable Wrist Cord
Velcro® Hook and Loop Closure
Anatomical Curve Boxed Construction
Seam Taped

Features:
Boxed construction and curved shape provide insulation and dexterity
MonoCinch gauntlet closure keeps weather out
Removable Idiot Cord attaches glove to wrist
Specifications
Shell:

Waterproof / breathable GORE - TEX mitt keeps hands and insulation dry
Fully seam taped for waterproofness
AOR ripstop fabric is engineered to reduce nIR signature (ONLY ON #71884 AOR FIREBRAND GLOVES)
Insulation:
170 g EnduraLoft insulation on back of hand and thumb for low-bulk warmth
Fleece palm for compression - resistant warmth
Smooth tricot lining allows liner to slide in easily
Palm: Water - resistant leather palm


NEW In BAG
Made in the USA - Retail $320
Mittens are size Large
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Accessories FS: U.S. MILITARY POLARTEC ECWCS L3 STRETCH FLEECE BIBS OVERALLS MID BASE LAYER- Large & XL

ECWCS

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“LAYER 3 STRETCH OVERALLS”​



POLARTEC IS THE GOLD STANDARD IN PERFORMANCE COLD WEATHER CLOTHING. EVERY QUALITY NAME BRAND FLEECE JACKET OR PANT HAS A TAG INSIDE THAT SAYS: “POLARTEC FABRIC”. THESE ARE THE 2ND GENERATION EXTENDED COLD WEATHER CLOTHING SYSTEM (ECWCS) STRETCH OVERALLS. WHEN USED IN COMBINATION WITH OTHER LAYERS IN THE ECWCS SYSTEM, THE SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE PROTECTION BETWEEN 40°F AND -40°F (44° - 51° CELSIUS). POLARTEC OVERALLS ARE WORN UNDERNEATH LOSE FITTING COLD WEATHER CLOTHES. JUST LIKE THE JACKET THE OVERALLS CAN BE WORN TO SUPPLEMENT ANY PANTS YOU CAN FIT THEM UNDER.THE POLARTEC FABRIC IS SUCH A BIG WIN IN THE WAR AGAINST THE ELEMENTS BECAUSE IT INSULATES AND WICKS PERSPIRATION AWAY FROM BODY EFFECTIVELY RETAINING BODY HEAT WITHOUT OVERHEATING THEN FREEZING AS THE TRAPPED MOISTURE COOLS.

NOMENCLATURE: LAYER 3 STRETCH OVERALLS

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Accessories New U.S. MILITARY M65 FIELD JACKET COAT LINER New M-65 quilted Foliage/OD Green, Size XXL

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Now commonly known as "Smoking Jacket's", because the M-65 Field Jacket is no longer issued.
New U.S. MILITARY M65 FIELD JACKET COAT LINER New M-65 quilted OD, Size XXL
New With Tags

$35 Shipped!!
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Tonneau covers that allow tool chest access.

Recently got a new truck, and would like a Tonneau cover for it. It needs to alllw access to a chest style tool box. UWS makes a notched chest that accomidates most folding styles,so I'm toing with that for the box.
What brands make a good product? I'd like it to offer full rain protection, and something with durable handles/latches.

Seeing Gator, Bakflip and Tonno mentioned a good deal.

Accessories FS: Manners T6A SA R700 Mini Chasis Price Drop

I bought this back in 2017 and shot 2 PRS club matches that year and have only taken this sporadically to the range since. Sponge camo job I did myself. Includes Area419 arca rail, barricade stop, and appropriate spacer. Ran it flawlessly with my TL3 short action. I’m using a full chasis setup now and can’t justify keeping it.



$1000 $950 shipped, not looking for trades at the moment

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Accessories (Sold) Magpul Hunter Stock

For sale is a Remington 700 Short Action RH Magpul Hunter stock with integral mini chassis. These are very nice stocks. I switched to a chassis. Includes bottom metal and action screws and accepts AI style detachable mags. Can include a mag if need be. Stock is in perfect condition and all accessories would cost $300 new.

Sold

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Marine Scout Sniper Heritage Foundation - Fundraiser Event - Request for Info

Howdy Y'all!

I would like to organize a fundraising event for the MSSHF in Tx. I would like to inquire for advice/tips from those of you who participate with the MSSHF or have previously hosted fundraisers for them. Any of you in Tx who would like to help or create a small team to organize the event, feel free to comment or DM me.

I will of course reach out to the MSSHF first before officially organizing the event, but this is more to gather information and tips to better understand what has been required or done before for this type of event. As well as create a discussion thread for any other members or organizations to use for their own events.

My event plan thus far is below, feel free to pitch ideas or recommendations:
  • Event location: San Antonio / Dallas / College Station / Houston
  • Ticket/Registration Event
    • Combines all Gun Range, food costs, plus a flat donation to the MSSHF
      • BBQ Catering or Food Trucks
    • Raffle Tickets purchased separately (if donations are given / all proceeds go to MSSHF)
  • Gun Range: Pistol and Rifle Competition, and USMC Pistol and Rifle exhibition (service-issued and replicas welcomed)
    • A Place To Shoot
    • Texas Gun Ranch
    • CCC Shooting Complex
    • The Ranch Tx Club
    • American Shooting Center
  • Raffle Event (preferred donations of USMC related Memorabilia, Rifle and Pistol Parts, Accessories, Clothing, Insignia, Coins, Documents)
  • Commemorative Ceremony
    • Former and active-duty Marine Scout Snipers (including MOS 0322)
    • Honorary mention of and prayer over all former and active-duty Military and Law-Enforcement Members
    • Speech/Event Outro from a representative or board-member from the MSHHF
If this event agenda goes well, my goal would be to make it an annual event, potentially changing between ranges to diversify the event reach. For any other interested parties or members of the MSSHF that like this idea/agenda, feel free to use it, it's for y'alls benefit.

For any other organization or business that owns a shooting range, and wasn't mentioned above, feel free to reach out if interested in hosting, sponsoring, or donating gift certificates for classes or services. I am thinking that 300yds - 500yds would be ideal for the rifles, outdoor preferably, but I am option to any and all those who offer to host, thanks in advance!
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SOLD WTS/Trade - Trijicon Accupoint 1-6x Mildot w/ Mount (ATACRS SOLD)

I have the following optics available. All optics were purchased new by me and were wrapped in cling tape at time of purchase. All in excellent + condition (scope body and glass), and work perfectly. Box and accessories for each included. Each optic comes with the mount indicated. All mount cap screws properly torqued. The NF 7-35x also comes with the IDTS turret wrap and dope board. I’ll also include the colored pens and any extra accessories for this system.

**SOLD** NF ATACR 7-35x56 F1. Mil-XT reticle.
American Rifle Company MBrace 1.26” mount
IDTS turret wrap and dope card for marking dope with colored pens
$2950 shipped/insured

**SOLD** NF ATACR 4-16x42 F1. Mil-XT reticle.
Warne 20 MOA mount 1.5”
$2050 shipped/insured

Trijicon Accupoint 1-6x24. Mil-dot reticle with fiber illuminated center dot.
Arken 0 MOA mount 1.5”
Was purchased new from old stock as it’s no longer made. Fiber brightness is adjustable and is awesome. No batteries. Crystal clear glass and nice wide FOV. Had this on a gasser and 500y hits were no problem. Great SHTF or 3gun optic.
Was $850 NOW $650 shipped.

Happy to answer any questions. Can provide additional images or FaceTime inspection.

Possible Trades:

Leupold Mk5 HD 3.6-18 and/or 5-25 w/ PR2 MOA reticle
Leupold Mk5 2-10 w/ PR1 MOA reticle
Vortex Razor G3 6-36 w/ EBR-7D MOA reticle
Quality 1-6, 1-8, 1-10 LPVO MOA reticle

Payment accepted, pp ff, Apple Pay, US postal mo.

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Firearms FIREARMS FOR SALE **Updated 01/08/2025**

BOLT ACTION

Ed Brown Custom
300 WM
26” Barrel
Sub MOA guarantee
MSRP: $4000
$2500

Colt Cooper-Commissioned M2012 Bolt Action
.308 Win
22” custom fluted match grade threaded barrel
Cooper Arms repeater action with integral picatinny rail
3-lug bolt
Timney single stag adjustable trigger
Wood stock
Sub MOA guarantee
MSRP $2500
$1750

FN Herstal Special Police Rifle
Model: SPR A5M
Bolt Action .308 WIN
1/12 twist
24” cold hammer forged heavy barrel
McMillan A-3 stock
Sub MOA guarantee
MSRP: $3495
$2450


TACTICAL

LMT Defense
Multi Caliber / Switch Barrel
Semi Auto
SilencerCo ASR suppressor adapter
Upgraded trigger pin set
MP 6.5 Creedmoor 1/9 SS, 20 inch barrel
MP 243 WIN 1/9 SS, 20 inch barrel
MP 338 Federal 1/10 SS, 20 inch barrel
MP 260 REM 1/9 SS, 20 inch barrel
MP 7.62 NATO 1/10 CB, 16.5 inch barrel
MSRP $6100
$3750

Precision Firearms Model PF-15B
Semi Auto
6.5 Grendel
24 inch barrel
Upgraded grip, trigger, bolt release and safety lever
SilencerCo ASR uppressor adapter
Tangodown bipod
MSRP $3075
$2200

LWRC SIX8-SPR
6.8MM SPC II
Semi Auto
Desert Sand
16 inch barrel
Upgraded grip, trigger and safety lever
SilencerCo ASR suppressor adapter
LWRC rail covers
MSRP $2300
$1500

LWRC R.E.P.R.
Semi Auto
7.62x51 NATO
20 inch barrel
Upgraded grip and trigger
Magpul PRS Adj Stock
SS Flip Up Iron Sights
KAC suppressor adapter
MSRP $4170
$2500


HANDGUNS

HK Mark 23 .45 Auto
.45 ACP
5.87” threaded barrel
Picatinny combat rail
Custom built match grade accuracy combat handgun
Operationally deployed by U.S. Special Operations Command
Polygonal rifling
MSRP: $2500
$1750

Ed Brown Custom Executive Elite 1911
.45 ACP
5" Government model slide, single stack Government frame
25 LPI checkering on forestrap and mainspring housing
Matte finished slide for low glare
Traditional "square cut" cocking serrations on rear of slide
Fixed black rear sight, gold bead front sight
Serrated rear of slide
MSRP: $3299
$2500

Ed Brown Custom Kobra Carry 1911
.45 ACP
4.25" Commander model slide
Single stack Commander Bobtail frame
Exclusive Snakeskin treatment on forestrap, Bobtail housing and slide
Single-side, carry profile thumb safety
Fixed black rear sight, orange HDXR front sight
Stainless finish
MSRP: $3399
$2600

FN Herstal FNP-45 Tactical w/ Trijicon RM02 Red Dot Sight
.45 ACP
5.25” threaded barrel
Fully ambidextrous
Polymer frame
Tan finish
$1500

PM me for pics and further info on any items of interest.

Accessories $35 parts

Items are $35 each plus shipping. Will ship small flat rate for $11 and i can fit all these items in one box if needed. You can also click on my username to see other items i am trying to move. I'll combine shipping as much as possible.

Dead Air Wolverine mount for HK M15 new

AAC piston M16x1LH. New

Silencerco piston M14.5x1LH new

Rem 700 trigger used

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Shortening .22 Rifle Barrel...Any Down Side?

I'm afraid I'm going to start an argument, but anyway...is there any good reason not to shorten a Savage A22 from 22 inches to 16.25 and thread it for a silencer?

My understanding is that velocity pretty much tops out at around 16", so it's not clear what the other 6 inches are for. Shortening the barrel would compensate for the added length of the can, and it would make the barrel more rigid, possibly improving the accuracy a little.

I have read that a long sight radius gives better accuracy, but it kind of sounds like a load to me. When I use a scope, the sight radius is only a few inches, and I get better accuracy than I would with iron sights. The scope can't tell a short rifle from a long one. It will work on either.

Seems to me the problem is fat sights combined with a short sight radius. Fat open sights are harder to use accurately, at least for me. Seems to me I could change the open sights to compensate for a short barrel. And I probably wouldn't use them anyway.

I am trying to be better about killing squirrels in my yard. They have cost me a fortune, and it's time to take the gloves off. I plan to kill them whenever I get the chance, and it would be nice to do it without ear muffs or a 4-foot-long rifle.

Since this is a cheap gun, I would like to do the work myself, but it looks like it's complicated. I would have to turn between centers because my lathe is so big, and I am not sure how to get the bore concentric with the spindle. I am reading up. Apparently, you can't just shove a live center into the muzzle.

I would also like to reattach the front sight, so I would have to drill and tap two holes in the finished barrel.