To all y'all even the Coasties

I need to upgrade from my Sig Kilo 850 to something that can get accurate ranges on game in poor weather conditions out to probably 1000 yards. At some point I plan on getting some type of weather meter to pair with AB on my phone. Is there a range finder with just Bluetooth to phone or Kestrel if I decide to go that route or do they all come with a solver? Also if I start with AB and a tempest and switch to a Kestrel will all my data transfer? I’m not sold in the lrf bino route because I still plan on swapping in the current rangefinder for archery seasons.

Thanks for any info

Lightly use Dan Wesson Pointman 9
I added G10 grips
comes with 5 Dawson Precision magazines with their aluminum basepads

$1650 shipped to your ffl

Over the weekend President-elect Donald Trump announced a push for national concealed carry reciprocity, a move which would make the concealed permit of any one state valid in the other 49.
On Sunday, Don Trump Jr. posted to Instagram, “Boom! My father just announced concealed carry reciprocity. The Second Amendment will stay and remain protected.”
Texas Gun Rights posted a video of Trump’s reciprocity announcement to X:On September 18, 2015, just months after Trump launched his first presidential campaign, Breitbart News pointed to policy papers wherein he said:

The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

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And during his 2020 presidential campaign Trump continued to support national reciprocity. During an interview with the NRA’s First Freedom, Trump was asked, “Mr. President, each state’s driver’s license is honored across this great nation, yet a permit to carry a concealed gun — which, in contrast, is a right specifically protected in the U.S. Bill of Rights — is often not respected by other states. Will you support a national reciprocity act so that law-abiding gun owners can more easily travel with their freedom?”
Trump’s response: “Yes.”
President-elect Trump is again signaling that national reciprocity for concealed carry will be an important goal for his administration.

WTS a lightly used Springfield Prodigy 5". Bought it brand new at the start of the year, before I even shot it, had it upgraded with all the EGW parts and extras listed below. Everything was hand fitted by a reputable 1911 smith in my area. Gun is buttery smooth and runs great. I have shot it at two local matches, 600ish rounds down the tube.

Trying to keep it as a full package, but will sell without Optic upon request.

$1500 Pistol, Mags, Parts, Holster
$250 Holosun 507
$1700 Complete Package

Shipped to your FFL (PP, Zelle, Venmo)

The money from this is going to a 11.5"Geiselle Super Duty pistol. Open to trading if someone has one, also a Vortex Gen III 1-10.

All I have left are a bunch of Large Rifle Magnum Primers I use for 300 Win Mag ... and I wanted to reload 6.5 Creedmoor. I know non-magnum is better, but does anyone have experience with this and can advise me as to whether using magnum primers in 6.5 Creedmoor is (a) fine, (b) OK but not great, or (c) a terrible idea. Thanks!

7/10 cats are selfish assholes. They sometimes shit and piss in the provided box.

1/87 dogs is an ass, but not selfish.

1/762 dogs are selfish and they are the size of cats.


Change my mind...

I believe this is new. 6.5cal
5/8x24 thread
No trades
$150 ahipped
Zelle, cash app, usps mo, cert check only

Have a 15” Arca rail for JP MkIII rapid configuration handguard. This is the direct mount arca rail. All screws invalided. Only shows slight wear at location I had bipod mounted.

$75 shipped. PP FF, Apple Pay or US Postal MO

It was my turn to get bitten by residual titanium dust syndrome. I was at the range dialing two new scopes and doing a few ladder tests and I had a major failure to function on my first test round. I'd shot about 20 rounds prior dialing in the scopes. The FTF round fired just fine but the case stayed put in the chamber. I've never had that happen in any of my rifles ever. It was a 169 grain projectile which registered at 2490fps out of a 16" barrel so not anywhere close to being hot.

Getting the rifle home, I used an alignment rod and pushed the case out. Came out very, very easily, literally no effort. 1/3 of the rim was gone, ripped off and the primer was sucked in (cratered in but not like we normally think of cratering of the primer) which I've never seen either.

The BCG was pretty dirty as it'd been a bit since I cleaned it. The last time I pulled it, I'd noticed a bit more wear on the surface coating so I lubed it up a bit more. Pulling it this time, I noticed that the gunk felt like emery paste, like a really fine grit. After cleaning off the carrier, the accelerated wear was obvious. I had at least 4K rounds on the BCG with limited wear marks prior to switching over to, you guessed it, a new titanium 3-D printed can.

I cleaned off the carrier and bolt and my carrier definitely showed a significant amount of wear from about 500 rounds with the new suppressor. I don't think it's toast but I'll probably purchase another here soon. The bolt is new and didn't show any wear.

I cleaned the sh*t out of the BCG and upper receiver, barrel extension as well as the barrel. The barrel looks ok to me but I had been having issues dialing in hand loads lately but thought it came down to LC brass from different years.

I took the suppressor, plugged the end, and filled it with CLR. I let that sit for a bit and dumped it out. I then dropped the suppressor into an ultrasonic cleaner filled with nothing but water and ran it for an hour. A LOT of crap came out including residual titanium material. It feels different from carbon so it's obvious. I have another suppressor, same manufacturer, made with inconel and out of an abundance of caution, I cleaned it in the ultrasonic with M-Pro 7. The BCG in that rifle looked fine although I noticed a bit of wear on the underside where it interfaces with the trigger hammer. On the other rifle, that area was polished to an almost mirror-like finish.

I'd suggest anyone purchasing a similar suppressor in titanium, no matter who makes it, flush it out, clean it in an ultrasonic cleaner and otherwise be quite aggressive in trying to remove any residual material. Clean it, shoot a few rounds, and clean it again.

I'm hoping I dodged a bullet. The upper receiver looked ok as did the barrel but I realize I may need to purchase a new barrel along with a carrier sooner than later. I'm going to reach out to the manufacturer but I'm sure they'll tell me to pound dirt. And no, it wasn't CGS.

On the caved in primer, I know the case headspace was set correctly. Like no question. I measured each at least three times before loading them up. None of the previous 20+ rounds had issues. I do know initially the chamber was on the tight side as it'd be a bit hard to extract a loaded round. Fired rounds were always ejected until the aforementioned round with the broken rim.

A few pics of the carrier and case.












One thing I did notice, is the dimple in the primer looks slight off center. Those are factory-loaded Winchester rounds. The swipe marks on the center case are "normal" for my rifle. The one on the left shows none as it's completely random when it happens but it happens more frequently than not.

***Prices Reduced and List Updated on 11/9/2024***

I took my kids to Disney for 3 days and when I returned home, the attorney I've been dating for the last 5 years cleared out my house. She literally took everything including my kids beds, all the plates, silverware, even the toilet paper... no I'm not joking. She left the guns, ammo, and a couch. So now I'm selling my entire collection of guns and ammo to try and save my house. I'll post more as soon as I can. I'm located near Tallahassee, FL., If you're LEO/MIL let me know and I'll see what I can do price wise. I did post this to another forum also. All ammo has been stored in ammo cans since purchases and in a climate controlled room.

All Prices are per box. Buyer pays shipping/insurance, I've been using UPS and have an account so it should save you some.


5.7x28 FN Red Box MIL/LEO SS198LF Green Tip 50rd boxes x 64 - $50


.338 Remington Ultra Mag 250gr Swift A-Frame PTD SP PR338UM1 20rd boxes x 4 – $75


.223 American Eagle 62gr FMJ 20rd box x 1 - $10

.223 American Eagle 75gr TMJ 20rd boxes x 3 - $13

.223 Federal American Eagle 50gr HP 20rd box - $14

.223 Federal Fusion MSR 62gr 20rd boxes x 6 - $22

.223 Federal Tactical Tru 55gr BTHP 20rd boxes x 9 - $18

.223 Hornady 55gr SP 50rd box - $35

.223 Hornady 55gr V-Max 20rd boxes x 70 - $20

.223 PPU Match 69gr 20rd boxes x 10 - $15

.223 Remington Match 69gr Matchking BTHP 20rd box - $20

.223 Winchester Ranger 55gr PSP 20rd boxes x 84 boxes - $16

.223 Winchester Ranger Power Point 64gr 20rd boxes x 4 - $18

.223 Black Hills 50gr V-Max 50rd box - $45

.223 Black Hills 52gr Match HP 50rd boxes x 4 - $45

.223 Black Hills 55gr 50rd box - $35

.223 Black Hills 77gr 50rd boxes x 5 – $60

.223 Speer Gold Dot 75gr 20rd x 17 - $30


5.56 American Eagle 55gr FMJ 20rd box - $10

5.56 Hornady 55gr GMX 20rd box - $20

5.56 Lake City M855 1,000rd loose x 2 - $600

5.56 Lake City M855 62gr steel core green tip 20rd boxes x 110 - $12

5.56 Lake City XM855 62gr steel core green tip x 1,200 rounds loose - $700

5.56 Sellier & Bellot M855 62gr Green Tip 20rd boxes x 2 - $12

5.56 Winchester M855 62gr steel core 20rd boxes x 4 - $12

5.56 ZQI M855 62gr steel core 30rd boxes x 2 - $18

5.56 Lake City M193 55GR FMJ 1000rd loose – $500

5.56 PPU M193 Nato 55gr FMJ Sealed 200rd Packs x 10 – $100

5.56 Winchester Ranger 45gr FRANGIBLE 20rd boxes x 13 RA556JF – $13


.22-250 Hornady 55gr V-Max 20rd boxes x 10 - $26


7.62x39 Tula 124gr HP 20 round boxes x 97 - $10

7.62x39 Wolf 122gr HP 20rd boxes x 37 - $10

7.62x39 Russian HP 20rd boxes x 57 - $11

7.62x39 Remington 125gr Core-Lokt PSP 20rd box – $35

7.62x39 Tula 124gr FMJ 20rd box – $10

7.62x39 Wolf 122gr FMJ 20rd boxes x 28 - $10

7.62x39 Wolf 122gr HP 20rd boxes x 12 – $10

7.62x39 Norinco Brown Steel Case FMJ Magnetic Bullet 20rd box – $16

7.62x39 Norinco Copper Washed Case FMJ Magnetic Bullet 20rd Yellow box - $16

7.62x39 Norinco Copper Washed Case FMJ Magnetic Bullet 20rd Yellow boxes x 12 - $16

7.62x39 Norinco Copper Washed Case FMJ Magnetic Bullet 50rd Plastic Boxes x 4 - $40

7.62x39 Norinco Copper Washed Steel Case FMJ Magnetic Bullet 10rd stripper clips x 8 – $9


5.45x39 Dynamit Nobel 59gr HP 50rd box – $35

5.45x39 Hornady 60gr V-max 50rd boxes x 6 - $35

5.45x39 Wolf 60gr HP 25rd boxes x 4 -$13

5.45x39 Wolf 70gr FMJ 25rd box x 1 – $13


6.5 Creedmoor Hornady 140gr ELD Match 20rd box - $30

6.5 Creedmoor Hornady 147gr ELD Match 20rd boxes x 3 - $30

6.5 Creedmoor Winchester 129gr Power Point 20rd boxes x 9 - $20


.308 American Eagle 150gr FMJ 20rd boxes x 2 - $20

.308 Hornady Tap Precision 168gr A-max 20rd boxes x 7 - $30

.308 Federal Gold Medal Match 175gr Sierra Matchking BTHP 20rd boxes x 29 – $30

.308 Hornady TAP Barrier 165gr Interbond 20rd boxes x 29 - $40


7.62x51 Winchester Q3130 147gr FMJ 20rd boxes x 9 - $20

7.62x51 Federal Gold Medal Match 175gr Sierra Matchking BTHP 20rd boxes x 18 - $30

7.62x51 Lake City XM118LR 175gr OTM 20rd boxes x 20 – $35


12GA Federal Hydra-Shok Slugs 5rd boxes x 10 - $5

12GA Federal Truball HP Slug 5rd boxes x 27 - $5

12GA Remington 3” Magnum 00 Buckshot 5rd boxes x 4 - $9

12GA Speer Lawman Slugs 5rd boxes x 50 - $5

12GA Winchester Double X Magnum 5 shot 25rd boxes x 2 - $15

12GA Winchester HP Slugs 5rd boxes x 2 - $5

12GA Winchester Military Buckshot 5rd boxes x 8 - $6

12GA Winchester PDX-1 slug/buckshot combo 10rd boxes x 3 - $15

12GA Federal Duck & Pheasant 2-3/4” #6 (F126) 25rd boxes x 2 – $13

12GA Federal Field & Target Birdshot 2-3/4” #7.5 25rd boxes x 5 – $9

12GA Federal Target Load Birdshot 2-3/4” #8 Pink Box 25rd boxes x 4 – $9

12GA Remington Game Load Birdshot 2-3/4” #8 25rd boxes x 3 – $11

12GA Remington Gun Club Target Load Birdshot 2-3/4” #7.5 25rd boxes x 21 – $10

12GA Sellier & Bellot 00 Buckshot 110 rounds in plastic ammo can – $80

12GA Winchester 3-1/2” 00 Buckshot 5rd box - $13

12GA Winchester Drylok Steel Shot 2-3/4” #1 (XSM121) 25rd box – $20

12GA Winchester Super-X Long Range 2-3/4” #6 (X12) 25rd boxes x 2 – $13

12GA Winchester Xtra-Lite Target Load Birdshot 2-3/4” #8 25rd box – $10


20GA Brenneke Magnum 3” 1oz Silver Slug for smooth and rifled barrels 5rd boxes x 4 – $9

20GA Federal Classic Rifled Slug HP 2-3/4” 3/4oz 5rd boxes x 2 – $5

20GA Federal Classic Steel Birdshot 3” #1 25rd box – $15

20GA Federal Field & Target Loads Birdshot 2-3/4” #7.5 25rd boxes x 3 – $9

20GA Federal Steel Birdshot 2-3/4” #7.5 25rd box – $10

20GA Federal TruBall Rifled Slug HP 2-3/4” 3/4oz (PB203RS) 5rd boxes x 32 – $5

20GA Remington Express Magnum 2-3/4 #4 25rd box – $14

20GA Remington Gun Club Target Load Birdshot 2-3/4” #8 25rd boxes x 2 – $9

20GA Remington Gun Club Target Load Birdshot 2-3/4” #9 25rd boxes x 3 – $9

20GA Remington Slugger Rifled Slug HP 2-3/4” 5/8oz (SP20RS) 5rd boxes x 6 – $5

20GA Winchester Super-X Rifled Slug HP 2-3/4” 3/4oz 5rd boxes(X20RSM5) x 2 – $5

20GA Winchester Xpert Game & Target Steel 2-3/4” #7.5 25rd boxes x 7 – $12


22 LONG Winchester CB-Match 29gr Lead Round Nose 500rd Brick – $85


22LR CCI Mini Mag HP 100rd boxes x 42 - $8

22LR CCI Segmented HP 50 round boxes x 10 - $8

22LR CCI Select 100rd boxes x 6 - $13

22LR CCI Stinger 50rd boxes x 20 - $8

22LR CCI SUBSONIC Segmented HP 50rd boxes x 46 - $8

22LR Federal Gold Medal Match High Velocity 40gr 50rd boxes x 140 - $6

22LR Winchester 37gr Copper Plated Super Speed HP 100rd boxes x 3 - $9

22LR Eley Subsonic HP 50rd boxes x 3 - $7

22LR Federal Gold Medal Match High Velocity 50rd boxes x 4 - $6


22 Magnum CCI Maxi Mag 40gr Jacketed HP 50rd boxes x 10 – $14

22 Magnum Federal Game Shok 50gr Jacketed HP 50rd boxes x 15 – $12

22 Magnum Remington 33gr Accutip-V 50rd boxes – $15

22 Magnum Winchester 34gr Jacketed HP 50rd box – $12


25ACP Fiocchi 50gr FMJ 50rd boxes x 3 – $25

25ACP PPU 50gr FMJ 50rd box – $22

25ACP Remington 50gr FMJ 50rd boxes x 3 – $25


32 Auto Aguila 71gr FMJ 50rd box – $25

32 Auto Remington 71gr FMJ 50rd boxes x 2 – $30

32 Auto Winchester 60gr Silvertip HP 50rd boxes x 13 - $35


38 Special Norma 148gr Lead Wadcutter 50rd boxes x 11 - $28

38 Special Winchester 130gr FMJ 100rd box x 1 - $50

38 Special Winchester 148gr Super Match 50rd boxes x 5 - $30


380ACP Hornady Critical Defense 90gr FTX HP 25rd boxes x 2 – $23

380ACP Speer Gold Dot 90gr HP 20rd boxes x 4 – $20

380ACP Winchester Bonded PDX1 95gr HP 20rd box – $20

380ACP Winchester Ranger T-Series 95gr HP 50rd boxes x 6 – $40

380ACP Winchester Silvertip 85gr HP 50rd box – $35


9MM SUBSONIC HPR Encom 147gr JHP 50rd x 3 - $35

9MM SUBSONIC Remington 147gr HTP 50rd boxes x 6 - $35

9MM Winchester NATO 124gr FMJ 50rd boxes x 18 - $13

9MM Winchester Ranger 147gr T-Series HP 50rd boxes x 83 - $35

9MM Winchester Ranger T-Series 124gr +P 50rd boxes x 24 - $35

9MM Winchester Ranger T-Series HP 127gr +P+ 50rd boxes x 45 - $35


10MM Barnes Tac-XP 20rd boxes x 9 - $30

10MM PMC 170gr HP 50rd boxes x 2 - $30

10MM Sellier & Bellot 180gr JHP 50rd boxes x 5 - $22

10MM Sig V-Crown 180gr HP 20rd box - $20

10MM Winchester Silvertip 175gr HP 20rd box - $18


45ACP Federal 185gr +P JHP 50rd boxes x 3 - $30

45ACP Federal 230gr +P JHP 50rd box - $30

45ACP Federal Hi-Shok 185gr JHP 50rd boxes x 3 - $30

45ACP Speer Gold Dot 230gr +P HP 50rd boxes x 3 - $35

45ACP SUBSONIC Federal American Eagle 230gr Suppressor 50rd boxes x 12 - $28

45ACP Winchester Ranger T-Series HP 230gr 50rd boxes x 20 - $35

45ACP Hornady 1911 100th Anniversary 230gr FMJ 50rd x 4 - $30

I have a like new Foundation Revelation Dark Distressed SA Stock. It was cut for Zermatt Origin and recoil lug area was opened up 1/8" at most to fit my WTO Switch Lug. I have had my RimX, Vudoo and Remington 700 in it just messing with it and no issues at all on fitment. Stock have just been shot at the house and a couple of range trips. looks 100% un used.

I can get more pictures up tonight or tomorrow. Feel free to txt with any questions or send a DM.
TWO 70- TWO 93- SIX 493, I am in West KY.

** Selling Options **
Stock, ARCA Rail & WieBad Cheek Pad. $1100.00 Shipped
+ MDT Bottom Metal. Add $260.00
-- Total Package $1360.00 Shipped UPS

*** Trades ***
Manners LRH SA with mini chassis. ( I'll keep my BM )
Manners PRS1T SA w/ mini chassis.

** This is a video I did the other day on the WTO Switch Lug.

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SOLD
What I have:
Badger M2013 in an adjustable Manners mini-chassis stock with EFR, 20” 6cm heavy palma Bartlein barrel chambered by Perry Precision, 150 rounds fired and insanely accurate. Will come with a thread protector keeping the rusty nuts brake. Trigger tech special curved single stage.
Leupold MK4HD 6-24 PR2 in a badger 1.3 mount, will ship with the original top ring and not the accessory top ring. Very handy rifle.

What I want:
AT-X with NV bridge and preferably a folder.

Edit: Will sell the rifle alone for $2600 plus shipping. SOLD

I am only interested in the AT-X or a vision chassis AT. Looking to standardize my collection.

Happy to take more photo’s or video.

Just acquired some land in MS with lotsa deer and want to try an enclosure vs a tree stand this year.

For those of you who shoot from an elevated enclosure, did you build your own or buy?

Recommendations on build or buy?

If build, plans? Tips?

After 5 years of being in business and being a supporter here, we finally have a new, professionally made website. It is more inclusive, and is still being worked on in the sense that a lot of our precision rifle related products are going to be added soon. We will also have a section for our used firearm inventory, which is usually around 150-200 guns.

Give it a try!

I'm not calling this a "review." I don't really have the measuring tools to properly proof a reloading die. Frankly, I don't think the vast majority of the reloading die "reviews" I've seen had anyone qualified enough to do it either. In my estimation, it would take about $250,000 worth of measuring equipment to properly certify and compare reloading dies. It isn't as if there is any consensus among high end machinists about how anything is to be done. All these different machinists, working on super high end aerospace and medical parts... and none of them agree. It's really odd. So in that aspect, I'm not qualified to discuss the dimensional capabilities of any reloading die. I just wanted to get that out of the way before we start. I'll mention the tolerances I've seen when working with the die I have here, just so we have a baseline to work from... but under no circumstances will I defend any of my numbers. So don't even engage with me on it. Take it, leave it, or print it out and go outside and burn it if you like. Detractors, trolls, and anonymous internet personalities will be ignored. Only respectful posters will be engaged.

What I am qualified to talk about is the features and usability of a reloading die. I've experienced dies from essentially every major manufacturer of dies at some point in my career. I fire thousands of rounds per year and in a wide array of cartridges. I was originally going to do a comparison between this die, and several other dies in the same chambering. However, upon reflection... the only thing that will cause is a bunch of people getting all upset because their pet brand doesn't do as well. In light of peoples inability to remain objective, and despite having already started down that path, I suspended all testing with other dies. This isn't a comparison. This is simply the sharing of the experiences I've had with this singular 6mm Dasher resizing die from Short Action Customs. I have 8 more dies on order with them, and after you read this article, you'll understand why. I'll use this thread to update my experiences as time progresses, but the 6mm Dasher sizer comes first.



First off, the die looks amazing. The finish is next level by any definition, but certainly for a reloading die. The treatment the dies receive to achieve their amazing finish is a proprietary method SAC uses which provides exceptional hardness, but also has enhanced lubricity. This is something that you can see when inspecting the die and is something you can definitely feel when running the die. It doesn't feel like any other sizing die I've used before. The lower friction created by the surface finish is a real thing, and its something I will definitely be looking for from any other dies I evaluate in the future.

There are a few primary things that a good sizing die must prove it can do for me. First is that it must prove it can produce properly sized brass, with minimal runout on the neck, with solid coaxial alignment, that doesn't over-work the brass, and doesn't scar it up needlessly. There are other requirements, but the bulk of what it must do is described therein. This die shipped with a .266" bushing, a decapping assembly, and a .2410" expanding assembly. I didn't order a "custom" die, but instead told Mark to shoot from the hip and send me what he thought might work. This was out of sheer laziness, as I was quite busy with other projects at the time and I didn't have time to dive into my dasher brass. I ended up a little light on neck tension, with a .263-.264 bushing probably ending up being right. I should have a few bushings arriving soon and will update with some accuracy/precision performance results when I get it dialed in. So for the purposes today, I decided to just go with the decapping assembly and not run expansion, as there wasn't going to be any expansion with a .266 anyway.

One of the major problems I've experienced with many other die manufacturers is their persistent insistence on over-working my brass. I've seen dies squeeze the body/shoulder junction by over 6 thousandths. That's like throwing a hot dog down a hallway when you go to chamber that thing. I won't even start on the problems I've seen in the neck and shoulder angle. I've seen dies torture brass so badly that it couldn't even be fired after a pass through the die. Those same manufacturers have sent that same die back to me, claiming "we checked it over and it's in spec." Suffice it to say, I came into this experience with the expectation of being disappointed, as has happened so many times before. Those of you that have spoken with me on such matters, know that I am fanatical in my bolt operation ergonomics. I simply will not tolerate the tiniest bit of brass hanging up my bolt operation. NPA absolutely must be maintained during bolt cycles, and improperly sized brass can be a common cause of cycling issues. I do not take it lightly.

Oh how I do enjoy my loading area. I've got a real cuddly load with this Dasher. 34gr of H4350 behind a 105gr Berger Hybrid. Right there in the 2925fps territory. It's a monster wide node that has provided predictable 1/3moa performance or better across over 1500rnds of barrel life. I'll be staying in that load for the purpose of this testing.



The first order of business was to size a few pieces of brass, and across multiple firings, to determine if the die could produce straight ammo. My current batch of 6mm Dasher brass is fire-formed Lapua which had 6 firings on it, and has been sized by a custom Whidden FL sizer for all of those firings. The control cases were fired, and in need of sizing. I started by taking some measurements from 5 cases and pulling an average with a tolerance as close as I could call. The neck diameter ran .271 +.0005. Across the neck/shoulder junction was .4595, web diameter was .4695, and the headspace with a .350 body ran 1.2495. Average runout on these fired cases measured .0015. (one and a half thousandths) All of the measurements other than the neck were a very low variance, to the point where neither my mitutoyo caliper or micrometer could measure the difference.



Setting the die up to begin sizing operations was a breeze! There is some incredibly innovative tech buried in these sizers. Take a look at that unique expander/decapping assembly. The decapping rod is a nice .2355 dimension, so it's not letting the brass just flop around all over the place. It has a nice contoured bottom to ensure you won't smash the case mouth on your brass if for some reason things get off center a bit. This is a nice touch. Some other dies tend to have an oversized flat bit right next to the decapping rod which conveniently bashes the top of the case mouth and ruins your brass if you aren't super careful when the case just starts to enter the die. If that isn't cool enough for you, look at the way the assemblies are held. The top of each rod is depth set by an e-clip/groove interface. Super basic, but very functional. Then the stem itself is held into the VERY center of the die body by the use of a collet/taper setup. The collet puts the squeeze on the rod when the taper is locked down against the top of the bushing. The tighter you put the top on, the more the rod is squeezed! That old problem of having your decapping pin drift off center? Yeah, that's gone with this setup. Everything is held firmly in place and perfectly aligned. I didn't have the top screwed on tightly enough and went to resize a piece of brass, and instead of knocking the primer out, the pin was pushed up through the top of the die. I could visibly see it raise and it took just a moment to unscrew the top, pop the taper loose, re-seat it, and tighten the top back up. This demonstrated that if something does go haywire, you won't mangle your decapping assembly like you would on other dies. It will just get pushed up out of the top of something goes way wrong. Excellent design!!! High marks on this for sure.



I set up for shoulder bump, which I locked into about half a thousandth. I anneal every firing, and there's a fair amount of spring to the brass when you do that... and I basically wanted to give the die opportunity to show what it could do with minimal bump. It's a really good way to lock into brass flow when you've got the headspace nice and tight. If anything goes haywire in the tiniest degree, you can feel it in bolt closure on that live round. Historically, I have not been a fan of bushing dies. Donuts, runout, alignment problems, etc. Bushings just stink. I've ran custom honed full length dies for over a decade as a result of the problems I've encountered with bushing dies. I was VERY skeptical of yet another bushing die. I was adamant that Mark send me a custom FL die... but he suggested that he'd like to have me take a look at his setup. So I reluctantly agreed. Well right away, I saw one major difference between bushing systems I've run in the past and SAC's setup. He's only sizing part of the neck! I've tried this intentionally with legacy bushing designs, with mixed effect... but in this design, there was no way for me to change it so it could get a full neck resize. Again, very apprehensive, and very skeptical. I understand the logic, as the "fire formed" neck helps keep things centered up when the live round is chambered. It also serves to keep the bullets bearing surface away from the neck/shoulder junction, where the dreaded donuts can form. However, I also enjoy the long heavy-per-caliber bullets I most often shoot having proper support by the neck.

While I intend to have a more detailed conversation with Mark regarding this setup, I went into this with an open mind and I made sure I kept that during the process. It appears that only approximately 150 thousandths of the neck was sized. This left me wondering if I had the die setup right at all! I was seeing shoulder bump behave predictably... so I had no choice but to assume it was correct. I scored the neck with a caliper in the above photo in the approximate region where the formed to sized transition takes place, so you could see a visual representation. Suffice it to say, as a function of reamer design, I have always kept the bullets bearing surface safely above the neck/shoulder junction to avoid that issue-prone area of the case. This is easily accomplished in most cases by assigning the correct freebore and lead angle for your intended bullet. The geography of this step is in the bushing itself, so it did later occur to me that I could probably flip the bushing upside down and get a full size, or have a custom bushing made... but for the purposes of this test I wanted to use the die exactly as its creator intended. Initially, I was almost certain that I would run into chambering issues due to this geography later in testing. We'll circle back to this.

The first trip through the sizing die produced some excellent results. The die squeezed .266 at the neck, which is precisely the diameter of the installed bushing. The shoulder/body datum was .4585, indicating a 1 thousandths squeeze from fired. This is much smaller movement than many dies I've worked with. The case web measured out .4690, which showed about half a thousandth of squeeze from fired. Almost immeasurable. At this moment, I was almost certain that I would have issues chambering these cases in later testing. Again, we'll circle back to this as well. The runout of the sized cases showed the same .0015 as the fired cases had measured. There was essentially zero measurable variance in any of the locations I expected to see variance. That was very interesting. The reading I got on one, was the same reading I got on them ALL. I was a bit disappointed in the runout. I had seen videos showing "0" runout.

I began firing the 5 test cases repeatedly, cycling them through the SAC sizing die, and measuring them immediately after sizing. It was after that first cycle that I realized something: The runout was gone. The fired cases, had essentially 0 runout, and after that next trip through the SAC sizer, the runout did not come back. Through 5 subsequent firings, the brass maintained less than 5 ten thousandths of runout... so small in fact that it was almost impossible to see the needle on my indicator twitch on most measurements. Obviously due to not running an expander, the neck wall thickness uniformity issues that this un-turned brass almost certainly has, was kept on the I.D. and not pushed back to the outside. However, it's noteworthy that if you're running turned necks, these dies are going to be able to produce some SILLY straight ammo! There's something very special going on here with the hardness and lubricity of the treatment this die has undergone. The brass flow is more uniform and predictable than anything I've ever seen before. It's beyond my measurement capabilities to actually quantify... but the dimensions I was seeing was unlike anything I'd seen before. The die was able to produce the most uniform and consistent measurements I've witnessed to date. Bravo SAC, bravo indeed. You folks have something here... and I mean really have something.

Next up was quite possibly the most important part of my process of proofing every new sizing die I take possession of. The stress test. This is the part where I load a single piece of brass until failure. I run the exact same minimal headspace bump, refusing to touch the setting on the die for the duration... and the exact same load, for the entire test. What we're looking for here is the point when the case web grows forward beyond the dies ability to overcome the expansion. Essentially the point at which brass flow becomes inhibited due to its grain structure changing for the worse. If you're over-working the brass in any particular way that normal loading practices will not handle, you'll see it show up in the stress test. It's an imperfect method, just as many things in shooting are... but it's a method which has proven to suffice when sniffing out a die which is putting too much strain on brass! It is also important to not run a hot rod load, or the brass will behave unfavorably anyway... just as it should when you are running beyond a cartridges actual capabilities. The load I outlined earlier in this article is as gentle and stable as they come. Despite that, it is noteworthy that at some point during this type of testing, the internal case capacity is systematically reduced due to the omission of a tumbling op. This is done for the sake of timeliness as well as to bring a bit of finality to the testing. Good brass can go on FOREVER... and I mean 80-100+ firings, if tumbled between each cycle and sized in a quality die. As the internal case volume is reduced, the same charge weight will produce a hotter and hotter load each cycle. Eventually the pressure will be felt as heavy bolt lift when the case can no longer function properly. It's as much a test for the sizing die as it is the brass quality! As I said, imperfect... but sufficient for my purposes.



Remember, we had 6 firings on this brass before we began this test, and those resizing trips were through a different die. Despite this, I went a subsequent 45 firings on this brass before any indication of heavy bolt lift surfaced. I pushed an additional 2 firings past that just to confirm the results. The fired case on the conclusion of testing had 54 total firings on it, and had a final headspace dimension of 1.2520" using the same .350 comparator. An impressive showing, by any measure. I shudder to think how many firings I could get if the brass saw nothing but this die and had a tumbling op and annealing between each firing, as is customary in my process.

Suffice it to say that this sample size of one die is not enough for me to proclaim SAC as the ultimate victor in reloading dies. I have a mountain of testing to perform yet. More dies to receive and proof. I suspect after about 10,000 rounds through a half dozen SAC dies, I might have enough experience to begin talking with authority as to their merits. However, it must be recognized that if Mark Gordon and his team at SAC can continue to produce the quality of die I have in my hands presently, then they will very soon be the 800lb gorilla of the precision reloading die world. I'd encourage those of you with a little time on your hands to go put an order in with SAC. The only way any of us are going to learn what they can do is if we get them busy doing it! It's not much of a risk at all, when you consider the up side of what we can have access to if they are successful! If you do head over to them for an order, please be aware that they are growing into this, so be sure you show some class. They are ramping up and taking on some big obligations in an attempt to make an honest go of it, and that shouldn't be taken lightly. So if you're going to go put an order in at my prompting, I expect you to treat them with professionalism... and most importantly recognize your own limitations and experience. I still haven't a clue if I'm using this die correctly... but I intend to have a few conversations with SAC to help make sure I'm doing things as they recommend. There's a lot of thought been put into this, and I want to make double sure I fully grasp the concepts at play before I condemn particular design choice on their part. The die sure does speak for itself, despite my own preconceived feelings!

Remember that partial neck sizing issue I was concerned about? Well my concerns were unwarranted. At no point during the testing did it ever become an issue, and I'm almost certain I have experienced an accuracy improvement as a result of that fire-formed neck geometry providing some support in centering the case up in the chamber during firing. I will attempt to quantify that in future testing once I've taken care of the neck tension issue with some smaller bushings. Remember that other aspect I was thinking could come up to bite me, with the case body dimensions being squeezed so little? That too did not present itself as a problem at any point during the duration of the test. The case being unable to take continued abuse which produced a headspace growth was the thing that stopped us. I can't possibly tell you how excited I am to put a few thousand rounds through this die and see what kind of down range performance I can squeak out as a result of how unbelievably straight these cases are coming out. I'm overjoyed, to put it mildly. To have found a die maker that can produce a product this unbelievably good... well the prospects have my mind swarming with ideas. I'll be sure to update this thread as time progresses and my experiences with SAC dies grow in scope and frequency.

If SAC can stay on the straight and narrow, aiming to provide the very best in die performance regardless of the costs... I think I'm going to be happy I gave them a shot at earning my business. If they head down the road of "budget" items and too much of the "one size fits all" thing, it could be disastrous. Though I sure do love what I've seen thus far!!!


by Greg Dykstra
3/6/2021
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Scope is in good functional shape. The tube has some black spray paint overspray(visible in photos). It works well but won't win any beauty contest

This model has the H58 reticle and older big elevation dial. I enjoyed this dial, it is very easy to manipulate while wearing gloves. The 20MOA AR height mount in the pictures is included.

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I just purchased this scope for $152 and got Burris Zee medium rings for another $35. Mounted on Ruger American Go Wild 30-06. I debated on reticle style and settled on the Ballistic Plex. The great thing about this is that Burris has a calculator online that let's you enter exterior ballistic data or factory loads and then calculates the drop for the BDC lines. As you change magnification settings the distances for the BDC lines change allowing you to find what range and what magnification setting will get you your desired firing solution.

Burris did a pretty good job with this online calculator. It can be found on their website.

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