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2A ALERT: VIRGINIA. VCDL URGENT LEGISLATIVE ACTION for pending gun bills. Salem gun show needs volunteers 01/18-19

ATTENTION Virginia residents:





1. URGENT VCDL Legislative Action Item




Two gun-rights bills and two gun-control bills are going to be heard THIS Thursday, January 16, at 4pm in the House Public Safety Firearms subcommittee held in House North Subcommittee Room 200.

Seven gun-control bills are going to be heard in the House Public Safety committee THIS Friday, January 17, at 8 am in House Committee Room A 008.

Click here to send a prewritten email to your Delegate to OPPOSE those nine gun-control bills. And click here to send a prewritten email to your Delegate to SUPPORT the two gun-rights bills.

If you can attend either of the meetings in person, that is a plus.

If you can’t attend in person, you can attend the Firearms subcommittee electronically by clicking here. At that link you can sign up to speak virtually and/or you can leave a written public comment on the four bills being heard in the subcommittee. Your written comments stay with the bills as they move through the General Assembly.

NOTE: The VCDL 2025 Legislative Tracking System is now up and running! https://vcdl-lis.org

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These are the nine gun-control bills with a description and notes for each bill:

HB 1597, Delegate Feggans, requires all firearms in a home, that are not being carried on or about a person, to be unloaded and placed in a locked container if there is a minor in the home or if there is a prohibited person in the home. A gun may only be stored loaded if it is in a biometric safe. Guns left in a vehicle must be secured in a locked box or container that is not visible from outside the vehicle, must be affixed to the vehicle, and the vehicle must be locked, too. Glove boxes and consoles cannot be used unless specifically designed for gun storage. Gun dealers must post signage about the law and there is also a provision to educate the public on firearm storage. Biometric safes are more expensive than non-biometric safes. Biometric safes can be unreliable when being used under stress and require batteries to work. Why are biometric safes the only option for storing a loaded firearm? This bill punishes the victim if their gun is stolen from a vehicle and the firearm is not stored per the requirements of this bill. Not all lock boxes have a way to be affixed to a vehicle. Not all lock boxes can be easily hidden. If a person is a passenger in someone else’s vehicle and must leave their gun in the car to use a restroom at a Virginia rest area, for example, they would have no way to comply with this bill.

HB 1607, Delegate Helmer, prohibits the sale, possession, transfer, and transport of an “assault firearm” made on or after July 1, 2025. It also prohibits sale, possession, transfer, and transport of an “assault firearm” to anyone under the age of 21. Magazines that hold more than 10 rounds and were made on or after July 1, 2025, are prohibited. The U.S. Supreme Court has said in both DC v Heller, and recently The New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v Bruen, that any firearm “in common use” is protected by the Second Amendment. The guns and magazines targeted by this bill are among the most common guns and magazines in the United States, making this bill unconstitutional.

HB 1608, Delegate Helmer,
allows one of the most highly regulated industries, the firearms industry, to be sued civilly for a variety of already illegal actions. It also holds the manufacturers and sellers of even the most benign of firearm accessories, like a butt stock or a gun case, liable to a civil lawsuit if it doesn’t “properly” protect that item from theft or misuse by a criminal. How could a firearm accessory seller reasonably know if they were selling a gun sling to a prohibited person? This bill is designed to have a chilling effect on all aspects of the firearms industry. At a time when the federal government is pulling FFL licenses for even the tiniest and most benign of paperwork mistakes, this bill is just piling on with more unreasonable ways to destroy the firearm industry.

HB 1622, Delegate Laufer, creates a $500 civil penalty and subjects a vehicle to towing if a person leaves a visible handgun in an unattended vehicle. The car owner should not be at fault even if a criminal opens an unlocked car door to steal a firearm. It is the criminal who is solely to blame. This bill would put a handgun in the possession of, and under the control of, a tow truck company! Punish criminals and stop harassing good people.

HB 1660, Delegate Jones,
redefines a “trigger activator” as a “conversion kit, tool, accessory, or device” that alters the rate of fire of a semi-automatic firearm to “mimic automatic weapon fire or used to increase the rate of fire to a faster rate than that possible for a person to fire such semi-automatic firearm unassisted…” The terms in this bill are so vague as to be meaningless. At what exact point does a firearm “mimic automatic weapon fire,” considering that different automatic firearms have different rates of fire? And how does someone determine what the rate of fire is for a person shooting a firearm unassisted? There are professional shooters, such as world champion Jerry Miculek, who can shoot a firearm without assisting devices at eye-popping speeds. Unadulterated semi-automatic firearms can be “bump fired” by simply holding them the right way.

HB 1797, Delegate Helmer,
severely restricts concealed handgun permit recognition with other states. Currently, Virginia honors permits from all other states, which, in turn, allows Virginians to be able to carry in most of those states. Permit holders from other states have been peacefully carrying in Virginia for years. This bill is an unjust and demeaning slap in the face to law-abiding Virginia gun owners, as it will reduce the number of states where a Virginia permit holder can carry a handgun for self-defense. It will also discourage gun owners outside of Virginia from visiting the Commonwealth, effecting the state’s economy. This bill is a solution in search of a problem.

HB 1869, Delegate McClure, makes battery in a “dating relationship” a misdemeanor and takes away the right to purchase, possess, or transport a firearm for three years. This amounts to a lifetime ban on firearms federally since it does not also take away, and restore, all civil rights. Misdemeanors should never take away a civil right. This will also not stand up to court challenge under the Supreme Court’s Bruen decision as there was no history or tradition of taking away a person’s right to keep and bear arms over misdemeanor battery of anyone.

HB 1876, Delegate Callsen, restricts firearms at public institutions of higher education by requiring such firearms be part of an authorized program or activity inside a building. A solution in search of a problem. Higher education students are adults and have a right to self-defense.

HB 1960, Delegate Bennett-Parker,
requires a person with a protective order against them or a person with a domestic violence conviction to surrender, sell, or turn their guns over to someone 21-years-old or older and someone who does not live with them. It requires the person to be advised that if a police officer believes they have not turned over all their guns, that the officer can get a search warrant to look for any such guns. There are multiple problems with the bill as written. If a husband and wife co-own a shotgun for home defense, for example, and the husband gets a protective order issued against him, the wife would no longer have access to that co-owned shotgun. That punishes the wife and needlessly endangers her life. There is also the question of not allowing a person 18 to 20-years-old to retain the guns. A person in that age range can legally possess rifles, shotguns, and handguns. Young adults should be able to hold the guns.

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These are the two gun-rights bills:

HB 1559, Delegate Williams, clarifies that a person who is renewing a concealed handgun permit does not have to provide any proof of training or demonstration of competence. This corrects a problem with some judges misreading the law.

HB 1569, Delegate Wiley, lowers the maximum concealed handgun permit fee from $50 to $25, by lowering the maximum local law-enforcement can charge for the background check from $35 to $10. Originally the maximum permit fee was set at $50, which included approximately $25 to go to the FBI for fingerprinting applicants. In 2012 the General Assembly repealed the fingerprinting requirement, but never got around to reducing the maximum permit fee accordingly. Clearly this change is long overdue. Background checks are now quick and easy for most applicants, causing many sheriffs in Virginia to do the background checks for free. $10 should more than cover the costs of the background check.




2. Help needed: Salem gun show THIS WEEKEND!




We need member-volunteers to staff the VCDL tables at the C&E Salem Gun Show January 18 - 19, 2025 held at the Salem Civic Center. Admission and parking are free. Many vendors may offer discounts to VCDL volunteers. VCDL will again offer FREE ADMISSION to those joining or renewing memberships at this event. Five volunteers per shift are needed to help:

Saturday the 18th,
8:00 AM to 12:30 PM
12:30 PM to 5:00 PM

Sunday the 19th,
9:00 AM to 1:00 PM
1:00 PM to 5:00 PM

Mark the dates on your calendars and contact Nat Weigle, Salem Gun Show Coordinator at [email protected] and sign up to join us. We have experienced cases where responses to volunteers have been sent to their spam/junk/quarantine folders. Please check these folders if you are expecting a response but have yet to see one. We certainly reply to all volunteers, as without your help we are powerless.

Please Note: Positions will be filled first-come-first-served. All volunteers working at a gun show or event must be current members of VCDL.

Is the Gaza Ceasefire a scam?

What do you guys think?

I know that Mossad has an advanced psychological profile of Trump (as if one needs to do all that to understand the guy's brain) and ALSO kompromat from Palm-Beach-to-Newark on the Lolita Express/ Epstein and ALSO various carrots to still offer him.

I think they just played him like a fiddle in the negotiation- before they fake a violation in Phase 2 of the deal, and beat him like a drum.

ALTERNATIVELY- he might be able to force them (economically and/ or militarily) to make good on their word in a Trump-II-era.

(For the first time ever, since time immemorial though?)

Should I go magnum?

I have an Aero Solus action and I have have both standard and magnum bolts heads. I currently shoot 308 6 and 6.5 creed.

I have access to a range to 1700 yards.

Give the fact that a lot of the reloader powders are unobtainable almost and the limited ability to load long heavy bc bullets (mag feed preferred)

Should I venture into a 7 Saum or 6.5 prc in a short action

Or

Sell the bolt face and just get a long action?

Uses hunting and long range

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What’s everyone’s favorite podcast? I’m hoping to add 2-3 to my rotation. Currently I listen to Joe Rogan (mostly) and Shawn Ryan Show.

Joe Rogan has such an array of people on and his conversational skills are why I listen to him the most. Really looking to find something similar to that, although I always skip all the fight companion episodes.

Shawn Ryan has some interesting guests as well but it’s mostly military stuff that gets repetitive.

What you got?
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Fenix ammo- a MI based, Based company

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1706967614809.jpegThese guys have been mentioned here before . Their shop and factory are local to me - inside 2 hours .
Great folks to do business with . They no longer sell to police departments, individual officers or government agencies they used to at a substantial discount and then found out the hard way those hero’s hated them. Were raided - ticketed and ordered to shut down several times during WhuFlu . Which is funny cause I’ve read here that police didn’t enforce those mandates. They never shut down and told the state and its agents to fuck off .
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Have no connection to them as a company other than I like giving my money to local family/veteran owned businesses that share my values .

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Unlawful arrest - unlawful detention- food withheld. Took his keys and went to a different location searched car and camera with out warrants.
Guess not only have they not heard of the constitution but don’t know about auditors with cameras exposing their tyranny.

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Suppressor causing thin barrel to droop for first round - which replacement barrel?

Hey all - I'm running an AAC SPR M4 (which weighs 18 oz) on an 18" PSA .223 Wylde upper. I have no illusions about getting under 2MOA out of a PSA factory gas gun, but 2 or even 3 MOA is all I need out of this gun, which is for coyote at 150, maybe 200 yards, or less. I had a heck of a time getting it zeroed when I first put it together but finally got it to group well enough and took it hunting.

Since then, I have had two inexplicable misses and more troubles when zeroing a new scope. I have finally only today discovered (after years of frustrations) that the cold-bore shot is hitting 10+ MOA low. I know it's hard to believe that I didn't discover this until now, but when I was zeroing it, once I was able to get a decent 5-round group I was no longer concerned with where the first round may have hit, so I didn't realize there was an issue. Of course in hunting the first round is often the only round!

I talked to a smith about it today who said the problem was likely the skinny factory barrel, which was probably drooping under the weight of the can until it was heated up by the first round, then maintaining POI decently for subsequent shots. He recommended replacing the barrel with something thicker and mentioned Aero; they've got two rifle-length 18" .223 Wylde barrels, one fluted and one not - any way of knowing if they will be strong enough to clear up this first-shot-low issue? I like fluted for weight but not if it's going to contribute to this problem in any way. I wish I could give some specs on the current barrel but the item's page is showing 404 when I look at it - I could always reach out to PSA for the specs to be sure.

Many thanks, all - as mad as I am that many hunting trips have been compromised by a rifle that I was sure was properly zeroed, it is a massive relief to finally have an explanation! I'll rezero and hunt without the can for the rest of this season and hopefully have everything straight before next year.

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