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1 in 12 twist / 155 Scenar stabilize?

Hey guys,
I have a 20" 1/12 twist barrel. Will it stabilize a 155 Lapua scenar or am I totally off base here.
Correct me if Im wrong but isnt the scenar longer than a typical 155 grain bullet? Would I need a faster twist?
I am shooting 168 grain to 800yds no problem but I would like to push it to 1000yds. I tried 175 grain but
my rifle doesnt like it at all, 1.3" groups at 100yds.

Checking in

Just a new guy checking in.

I’ll spend a lot of time lurking in the background. I am most interested in the reloading board, but I’m sure I’ll find my way to other parts of the forums eventually. I’m fairly new to reloading, I’m going a little crazy trying to figure out my mistakes and how to correct them. I’m happy to be here and look forward to gaining more knowledge.

I saw a quote from one of the members last night that hit home. “Take your loss. That’s the cost of education”.

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SOLD Vortex Razor HD Gen II E 1-6x24

Like New Vortex Razor Gen II E 1-6x24
Never ran drills, hunted or fielded past a quick zeroing. Chose to go a different route.

VMR-2 MOA Reticle

Includes the following:
Badger Ordnance 1.70” C.O.M.M Mount
Badger Ordnance ARC Ring
Badger Ordnance 45 Degree J-Arm
Badger Ordnance J-Arm RMR plate
Subrev Throw Lever

$1400 TYD. I’ll cover shipping, Insurance and PP fees.

Was leveled and mounted using Badger Ordnance reticle level Jig. Screws torqued with fix it sticks @ 18 in/lbs and indexed. Should be ready to go. Dot is super bright and new battery installed.

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Wanted to share some Civil War information that I found to be interesting.

The other day I took a break from the holidays and rewatched the movie "Gettysburg" and since then have been doing a bit of research on Gen Longstreet. You don't need to be a Civil War buff to appreciate this post but regardless of how you feel about the Union/Confederacy or that part of history, he's really an interesting (to me at least) part of the Gettysburg story.

Just as a quick back story/catchup- Longstreet graduated from West Point in 1842. By all accounts he was far from a model cadet. He had a history of racking up demerits and performing poorly in his studies. The records that I've found thus far was in 1842, 56 individuals graduated from West Point and Longstreet (being among them) was ranked... 54th in his class.

Despite his academic standings, it seems that he was still popular amongst his fellow classmates (perhaps he was the class clown?) and among the friendships he cultivated during his years at West Point, one of which happened to be Ulysses S. Grant who graduated a year later in 1843. Again- you don't need to be a historian but that in itself is rather interesting.

Skipping over a decade or two- despite graduating at the absolute bottom of his class in 1842, he quickly advanced through the officer ranks and once the Civil War broke out he eventually became Gen Robert E. Lee's "right hand man" and most trusted General and advisor by Lee's own accounts.


Ok- now that we're all caught up- back to Gettysburg. Knowing most folks here aren't history buffs and wanting to be concise- during the battle Gen Lee was in command with Longstreet as the #2. One could honestly devote their entire lives to studying just this one battle but Lee & Longstreet's discussions are well documented and they frankly were polar opposites of how to proceed.

The one part I'll mention on that topic is a part of the battle that I'm sure many folks have heard of (even if they're not fans of history themselves) and that's Pickett's charge on the 3rd day of the battle. Pickett's Charge is often used as a metaphor for futile (and foolish) endeavors even to today. But on the 3rd & final day of the battle at Gettysburg- I reckon many don't know that Longstreet publicly argued with Gen Lee against that decision and in front of their subordinates (this part is actually fairly well represented in the movie).

Another factoid of interest (to me) is that even though it's gone down into history as "Pickett's" charge, Pickett fell under Longstreet's command and he was given the task by General Lee to command the assault. Longstreet disagreed so adamantly with the order that when Pickett asked Longstreet to give the command, he could only nod in his direction (another part well documented).

(This is starting to get long so I'll break up the story here and continue on a future post).

-LD

6.5 CM ammo Question

Been working with my Bergara B-14 HMR 20inch factory barrel at 100 -300 yards. I’ve been shooting factory 140gr and 130 gr have used most of the brands available,I’ve had very good results with mosts so i was wondering about 120-129gr factory ammo I don’t see many reviews on the lighter 120-129gr.I understand most guys here are shooting well over 100yrds so 120gr is way to light for greater distances but would be interested in any results or input on the factory 120-129gr.

AT-X AICS Chassis AW Magazines

I'm wondering what magazines folks are running with their AW cut actions in AT-X aics chassis. Mile high support said only 6852 and 6955 magazines would function which doesn't seem correct.

From what I could read, many are just running AW mags (0726). Has anyone tried AX (6677) or AT-X optimized (29896BL) mags? I'm curious if they'd function different/better due to the front lip. I have an AW cut TL3 in 6.5cm I'd like to get an AT-X chassis for.

Firearms WTS: Desert Tech SRS-M2

Desert Tech SRS-M2 in 6.5 creedmoor. Less than 100rds fired. Fantastic trigger in this one. Perfect condition. Torque wrench for barrel changes included.

$4500 $4150 shipped- chassis, 26” 6.5 conversion kit, mag, torque wrench.
(scope, mount & bipod not included in price but can work a package deal)

Will meet FTF near the Austin, Houston, Corpus, San Antonio areas

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Firearms WTS-Benelli M2

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Benelli M2
I built this for 3 gun but never got into it.
23" barrel cut down from 28" and rethreaded for Winchester chokes-local shotgun smith did this work
Nordic Components mag tube mag tube clamp, and charging handle
the carrier has been lightened and hard chromed-can't recall who did that
the lifter has been welded and plated by C-Rums
the loading port has been opened up for easier reloading
$1750 shipped to your FFL
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Reloading Equipment 243 win brass

Mixed headstamped brass

50 new unfired Hornady

Maybe a couple hundred mixed headstamped other brass, don't have an exact count. Once fired, deprived but not prepped. Dropped the caliber so don't need anymore

100 shipped

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Reloading Equipment Looking to trade hornady seater

Anyone have an older hornady dies that would like to upgrade to their click adjust micrometer seating stem? I’d like to trade their new style seating stem (on the left) for one like that’s on the right. Great upgrade just doesn’t work in my press for the cartridge I’m loading. If anyone has a few old style laying around I’d buy those as well.

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Night Vision Guide TB 630 LRF Clip on vs Athlon Cronus 35CL-640

Good afternoon fellas! I've been eyeballing the Guide TB630 LRF and Athlon Cronus 35CL-640 for Coyote hunting and shooting heat treated steel for night shoots. Just by looking at them I can tell they are both very similarly manufactured but the specs vary a bit. It looks like the Guide TB630 has a 1920x1080 pixel display while the Athlon Cronus has a 1280x960 resolution. Now with the sensor resolution being equal (640x512 @ 12 microns) am I right in assuming that the 1920x1080 screen will be a lot better when optically zooming in? I'm still fairly new to thermal, I have a BAE UTM that I love and works great but I want to buy another clip on. Thanks in advance for any input!
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Tactical Games Scope

I posted a thread a few months ago but thought I'd start a new thread regarding going from a 1-8 ATACR to a 3-18 scope for the tactical games. For reference I'm 55 and the eyesight ain't what it used to be. We typically shoot most of our stages with rifle anywhere from 50-100/200 yards and a couple stages out to 300-600. We also typically have one 2 gun type stage each day so an offset red dot is needed. All this varies per competition. A lot of guys have started going up to the 18x range with an offset red dot. Precision is a paramount as each miss is a 10 second penalty added to your total workout time. Advantages are you can see your target better and see your misses. With an 8x it's hard to tell if I'm missing and/or where I'm missing at longer distances. Ability to dial on certain stages is a nice option but most of the time I'll use holdovers.

As mentioned, I have an ATACR 1-8 and just bought an Athlon Helos 2-12 to try out. I like the Helos and the reticle but worried about durability and 12x. Because if 12x is nice 18x has to be nicer. lol


I think I have it narrowed dow to a few options:

Nightforce NX8 2.5-20
Leupold Mark 5hd 3.6-18
Burris XTRIII 3.3-18

Nightforce-
Things I like:
Form factor and weight
30mm tube (I have mounts already)
Durability
20x (although I probably won't go this high)
FOV is good
Illumination

Things I potentially don't like:
Tight eye box
No locking elevation turrets.

Leupold-
Things I like:
Form factor and weight
Durability
PR2 reticle
Locking elevation turrets
Proven- Elite winner uses this along with several others

Things I don't like:
Cost- I always feel like Leupold is overpriced.
35mm tube (have to buy another mount).
FOV is small
No illumination (extra cost and not available on PR2)

Burris-
Things I like:
Form factor and weight (not shortest or lightest but still acceptable).
SCR 2 reticle- it might be a little thin but I like the overall form factor.
FOV is good
Illumination and T illumination at center of reticle
Cost- almost half of the other scopes

Things I don't like: Durability?- not sure if it's durable enough for this type of competition
Turrets?- I've heard some complaints about these
Locking turrets?- I'm not sure if this has locking turrets or not
34mm tube- I don't have an extra mount for this but lower cost makes up for it


Any thoughts on these scopes for these types of competitions is appreciated. Or are there other options I've potentially missed?

Thanks in advance!