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Mine mailed 9/11/21- Im now over one year on a paper form 4 trust

I'm still waiting on a 8/2/2021 paper Form 4. Looking at the Reddit wait time thread, maybe it's going to get approved any day. Or maybe it's already been "returned without action" and I won't know until I bug my lame-duck representative.
 
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I'm still waiting on a 8/2/2021 paper Form 4. Looking at the Reddit wait time thread, maybe it's going to get approved any day. Or maybe it's already been "returned without action" and I won't know until I bug my lame-duck representative.
Is returned without action applicable to paper forms as well? I htought it was just e form.

Edit: The atf finally picked up the phone and says it was received Dec 6th, still pending. I know I was that cap armory had the status of mailed very shortly after I bought it. What the heck.
 
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My purchases are through Silencer Shop using single shot trusts. I just bought 3 suppressors like a month ago. Local dealer called last week to say he had them but obviously no stamps. I just got email from Silencer Shop saying to go to the dealer to certify my eform 4.

I guess this is done through their portal at the dealer but what the hell does this mean? Certify it?
You get the "Ready to Certify" email once all of the steps to submit your application are complete, you will just follow the link in the email and enter your username and pin connecting to your ATF eForms account. Once you and your dealer certify your application, the tax stamp payment is processed and your application is sent to the ATF. You can certify remotely actually, no need to use the dealer's kiosk for this step. - Chase
 
My last paper was cashed 11/9/2021. If I see mine by Christmas, I'll be a happy camper. But I don't expect to.
I was being optimistic on hopefully seeing mine by Nov/Dec timeframe myself. That would put me at the 13/14 month mark.
 
Is returned without action applicable to paper forms as well? I htought it was just e form.

Edit: The atf finally picked up the phone and says it was received Dec 6th, still pending. I know I was that cap armory had the status of mailed very shortly after I bought it. What the heck.

It was intended more to be an off-hand comment made out of frustration.

I just called for an update on my last two applications prior to receiving my license, and was on hold for less than a minute (that's about 10:55EST for those keeping track of such things). My paper F4 (trust, 1RP) submitted in Aug. '21 was approved on 9/6; that's roughly 395 calendar days. I'll call my dealer in a couple of weeks if they don't call me first. My F4 submission from Oct. '21 is still pending, so I didn't receive the privilege of batch approval :( I guess I'll call back on that one around Thanksgiving.
 
You get the "Ready to Certify" email once all of the steps to submit your application are complete, you will just follow the link in the email and enter your username and pin connecting to your ATF eForms account. Once you and your dealer certify your application, the tax stamp payment is processed and your application is sent to the ATF. You can certify remotely actually, no need to use the dealer's kiosk for this step. - Chase

I have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about. There's no link in the email to anything other than Silencer Shop. I created an account with ATF and when I log in there I see nothing other than the ability to submit new eforms.

Your email states something about a session or logging onto a session that the dealer has to create?
 
I have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about. There's no link in the email to anything other than Silencer Shop. I created an account with ATF and when I log in there I see nothing other than the ability to submit new eforms.

Your email states something about a session or logging onto a session that the dealer has to create?
That is correct, Mike. You will log into your Silencer Shop account. You can contact your dealer, they will set up the certification session, and there you should use your ATF eForms account information. If you or the dealer have questions and would like to connect over a phone call, we're available to help you out: 512-931-4556
 
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That is correct, Mike. You will log into your Silencer Shop account. You can contact your dealer, they will set up the certification session, and there you should use your ATF eForms account information. If you or the dealer have questions and would like to connect over a phone call, we're available to help you out: 512-931-4556

Ok, I follow you now. Got ahold of the dealer and we tried it, what an abortion. The system crashed.
 
Shows what you know. That just means the system is working as intended. Jessica is probably on the bus to the reeducation camp ATF remedial training facility by now.

LMAO. Yes, best part is it shows failed and seems to have crashed, but me and the dealer get emails saying it went through.
 
Ill send you a message to get your info, I can check on our side if it was submitted.

That's the email we got, that it was submitted. But that's only on 1 of 3 we're trying to complete. And another just failed, looks like it's starting again on the paying transfer tax part
 
I have 2 e-files with silencer central from March that I'm waiting on. I was out of signal for about 5 hours yesterday and when I could check my email, I had 2 back to back from silencer central. I was so excited, then I opened them up and they basically said that nothing has happened and that we are still waiting. Talk about an emotional roller-coaster. Ugh
 
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I have 2 e-files with silencer central from March that I'm waiting on. I was out of signal for about 5 hours yesterday and when I could check my email, I had 2 back to back from silencer central. I was so excited, then I opened them up and they basically said that nothing has happened and that we are still waiting. Talk about an emotional roller-coaster. Ugh
have you gotten the emails from the efile system that alert you to system maintenance? Those are real emotional roller coasters, given that your approved application and stamp are sent from the efile system email address.
 
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Yep, I had the same reaction to those. Got maybe 4 of them in a 2 week period. It's like having a bucket of ice water dumped in your face while your sleeping.
 
198 Days and counting on a Nomad.

The wait is killing me. My SB2 was approved in 152 days and my Form 1 SBR in 14 days earlier this year.
 
soo this is crazy.
Hydrogen L
Single shot trust
Eform4
Certified 7/5/22
Approved 9/15/22
Approved by Jessica
DAMN! 😳 I hope Jessica gets a hold of my 2 eForms (5/17 & 8/19) for my OCL Hydrogen L & S cans and batch-approves them! That would be great for hunting season!
 
Turns out it’s because my FFL changed its name and got expedited approvals.
🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼 The one time this happened for me, the ATF decided to also audit the dealer at the same time, disapproved a bunch of (over 100) Form 4's (including mine) and turned my weeks from approval 7-8 month wait, into 14 months. 🤬
 
Hey, didn't know. That other dude got his approved in 2 months. LOL
I don't ever have that kind of luck.... my dealer said they are seeing eforms 4-6 months so, maybe I will be getting my R6 and Nomad L sometime in the next month or 2. I've got one other 22 can in the hopper from my buddies place that was some kind of "eform" but i never did the certify thing with them and I really don't understand what they did so who knows when that will arrive. I'd be super happy if I can just get the other Nomad and the R6 but I'm still on the high from getting that call out of the blue today and picking up 2 cans so it's all good. That Nomad Ti is so slick and light. I have a form 1 Ti can but the Nomad Ti is so much lighter.

Have to get some Dot5 brake fluid tomorrow to coat it on the inside before I start shooting it, and do the Oculus as well
 
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I don't have anything waiting currently but heard a really good way to refer to tax stamps. They are tax receipts.

Skip to 14:00 for where they start talking about tax stamps.
 
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I ordered a TBAC Dominus 10/21, check cashed about a month later. Emailed my representatives, the only one that got back to me was the Democrat. He’s about as far left as they come. Received a letter yesterday saying my background check proceeded 8/24/22. Hopefully I’m getting close.
 
Seeing more days added to efile form 4. Last week it was reports of 190 to 198 days. Now I'm seeing new approvals at 204 days. It's like loan shark compounding interest.
Yup. Pretty annoying. Today is day 201 seems like I’m always like 2-3 days behind the approvals that keep pushing out. Wonder if late February, early March was a huge rush or something.

The shitty part is I purchased the Nomad the same day as my SF-SB2 but the surefire was ready to certify early feb and the system kept crashing every time I went in to certify my nomad so it took another 28 days or so to get it certified…I got my SB2 in 152 days that 28 day difference has turned into like 50 on the back end.
 
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I seem to remember that a lot of guys had issues with the initial SilencerShop submission process in January. Wonder if they’ve got any data behind how many finally shoved through and got cashed in late February / early March? I bet there is at least correlation between an increase of cashed stamps and delay now.
 
Bahahaha! Consider yourself lucky. I have one still out and it has been 18 1/2 months. Two others are at 11 and 13 months respectively.
I’ve never waited longer than 7 months. I bought two on eform in January and got them in 70 days. Yet I wait for this one. #abolishtheNFA
 
And the wait continues.

Efile submitted to ATF 2/24/2022 aka 207 days and waiting, SS Trust.
Efile submitted to ATF 3/9/2022 aka 194 days and waiting SS Trust.
 
Paper form 4
Check cashed 09/18/2021
Approval 09/01/2022
Got stamp 09/10/2022

2 other guys that bought them within a couple weeks got them within 2 weeks of me also.