Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[Astrozombie]

Pending 12/20/2022
Approved 8/8/2023
231 days
Single shot trust
Sandman S

I emailed [email protected] today to ask for a status update and this was approved within 2 hours after that. I did ask about the 4 other cans I have submitted currently, but in their reply back they said that they were only working on submissions from 2022.

 

[Longshot231]

Submitted 1/06/23
Approved 7/3/23
Individual
KGM RF22View attachment 8196948

This is what @The Durk looks like in real life. No wonder it only took 179 days. Congratulations.

 

[Starbuck_08]

Submitted: 12/9/2022
Approved: 8/8/2023
242 days
Individual electronic form 4
TBAC ultra 9

 

[loclass]

Submitted: 12/14/2022
Approved: 8/92023
238 days
Trust electronic form 4
2 cans approved

 

[BLEE]

Submitted 12/15/2022
Approved 8/10/2023
238 days
Trust e-forms for 2 suppressors.

 

[Texas Knight]

Knights Armament 5.56 QDC/ CRS-PRT
Eform 4- Individual
Submitted: 8/9/2023
Approval: N/A

Let the games begin

 

[J Industries]

CGS Hyperion
Silencer shop single shot trust
Submitted 6/26/23
Approved 8/1/23
36 days?

It blew me away. Wish I would have bought half a dozen at the same time. I was expecting the 200+ like all the others.

 

[K80/6.5]

CGS Hyperion
Silencer shop single shot trust
Submitted 6/26/23
Approved 8/1/23
36 days?

It blew me away. Wish I would have bought half a dozen at the same time. I was expecting the 200+ like all the others.

You must be living right! That’s awesome wish they all were that fast.

 

[FuhQ]

Random update...

Today is day 207 waiting for the OCL Polonium... (cert'd on 1/17/2023). Hopefully getting close.

 

[ALShooter]

Certified 2/1/23
Approved 8/14/23
195 days
Individual

 

[Ape_Factory]

Certified 12/8/22
Approved 8/15/23
250 days
Single person trust

This is a new personal best. It's a Dead Air Sierra5, taking bets on whether it lasts longer than it took to receive.

 

[FuhQ]

Certified 12/8/22
Approved 8/15/23
250 days
Single person trust

This is a new personal best. It's a Dead Air Sierra5, taking bets on whether it lasts longer than it took to receive.

After all this BS going on with them, I’m glad I didn’t buy one of those (like I was planning to originally), and went with a Polonium instead.

 

[KingTutsButt]

Buddy of mine just got a 2 can batch approved after 32 days...looks like wait times are dropping?

 

[Charger442]

Buddy of mine just got a 2 can batch approved after 32 days...looks like wait times are dropping?

not exactly.

i cant be more adamant about this, but every single "fast" approval that is not part of a batch with atleast one item at 200+ days (For Form 1s) or over 60+ days for Form 1s, basically screws SO MANY PEOPLE who are still waiting on 200-300+ day waits on Form 4s.

They are ONLY doing this to manipulate their wait times that get reported to Congress. its complete horseshit and while the people who benefit from the quick approvals should be happy, their happiness comes at the expense of people who are still on very long waits going back to last fall.

 

[KingTutsButt]

not exactly.

i cant be more adamant about this, but every single "fast" approval that is not part of a batch with atleast one item at 200+ days (For Form 1s) or over 60+ days for Form 1s, basically screws SO MANY PEOPLE who are still waiting on 200-300+ day waits on Form 4s.

They are ONLY doing this to manipulate their wait times that get reported to Congress. its complete horseshit and while the people who benefit from the quick approvals should be happy, their happiness comes at the expense of people who are still on very long waits going back to last fall.

Interesting...Is there rhyme or reason as to what/who has short waits? New submissions are getting quick approvals or what?

 

[Lazyfaire]

I agree with Charger442 but trying to figure out the ATF ‘system’ is just not possible. Only leads to confusion and frustration. I use a trust and have gotten 2 stamps together at 5 months and others at 10-12. Go figure!

 

[J Industries]

It turns out that my fast approval was due to the gun shop closing and moving locations. So when the new location was submitted they were granted immediate approval on all stamps pending. They said it was over 300.


Sooo, who’s going to open a shop and move every 3 months???

 

[xfyre101]

It turns out that my fast approval was due to the gun shop closing and moving locations. So when the new location was submitted they were granted immediate approval on all stamps pending. They said it was over 300.


Sooo, who’s going to open a shop and move every 3 months???

yeah its exactly this.. ive never heard of a "fast" approval without extenuating circumstances..

the most common one being that the FFL is closing down or being shut down
then you have the lucky ones who get batch approvals but this is not guaranteed even if you have multiple orders on wait
and then you have your leo/mil fast tracks

 

[cjs88]

yeah its exactly this.. ive never heard of a "fast" approval without extenuating circumstances..

the most common one being that the FFL is closing down or being shut down
then you have the lucky ones who get batch approvals but this is not guaranteed even if you have multiple orders on wait
and then you have your leo/mil fast tracks

Mil fast tracks, eh? Like actual DoD units or ind members?

 

[Charger442]

Mil fast tracks, eh? Like actual DoD units or ind members?

Dudes with transfer orders get fast tracked

 

[07SGT4623]

10 tax stamps moving all my dumb ass individual and single shot trusts into a single trust

Did the paperwork myself, took 10 months but obviously didn’t matter since I already had the tax stamps

10/13/2022
8/18/2023

 

[Str8shuutr45]

Another one came in today.

Sig SLH300Ti

Certified 2/3/2023
Approved 8/18/2023
197 days
Individual

 

[Starbuck_08]

Got my second can approved in a little over a week after the one that was ordered two months earlier.
Submitted 2/4/2023
Approved 8/18/2023
195 days
TBAC takedown 22
individual eform 4

 

[Longshot231]

Another one came in today.

Sig SLH300Ti

Certified 2/3/2023
Approved 8/18/2023
197 days
Individual

Got my second can approved in a little over a week after the one that was ordered two months earlier.
Submitted 2/4/2023
Approved 8/18/2023
195 days
TBAC takedown 22
individual eform 4

This is what @Str8shuutr45 (L) and @Starbuck_08 (R) look like in real life. That's why it took less than 200 days to get approved. Congratulations ladies!

 

[_Windrider_]

Form filed on 12/22/22 Approved 8/19/23 (7 months 3 Weeks 6 Days) on an AEM 5

 

[Charger442]

Form filed on 12/22/22 Approved 8/19/23 (7 months 3 Weeks 6 Days) on an AEM 5

One of the best out there. One of the best ever

 

[_Windrider_]

KGM R556 approved today. 26 weeks. I’ll take it.

 

[southernpew]

KGM R556 approved today. 26 weeks. I’ll take it.

Really hope this can is solid. Have 2 pending

Did you buy during the KGM sale?

 

[_Windrider_]

Really hope this can is solid. Have 2 pending

Did you buy during the KGM sale?

Yea, filed 2/14/23

 

[darkfader]

Just got an approval for an OCM5 that was efiled 2/13/23 as an individual. 189 days.

 

[Bluedog82]

Slooowly coming down. Nice. At this rate we’ll be at 90 days in about 2025 or so.

 

[Charger442]

Slooowly coming down. Nice. At this rate we’ll be at 90 days in about 2025 or so.

Still got a lot of us from 2022 and around New years to get through before I say anything is coming down

 

[darkfader]

Still got a lot of us from 2022 and around New years to get through before I say anything is coming down

Charger, are you filing as an individual or a trust? I’m sure I saw you post that but I have no idea how far back it is. Just curious as it seems like individuals have been coming back sooner than the trusts lately.

But like I always say, there’s no rhyme or reason to these approvals and no way to decipher when an application will be approved.

 

[Charger442]

Charger, are you filing as an individual or a trust? I’m sure I saw you post that but I have no idea how far back it is. Just curious as it seems like individuals have been coming back sooner than the trusts lately.

But like I always say, there’s no rhyme or reason to these approvals and no way to decipher when an application will be approved.

I'm a trust. A well established trust, with a lot of items already in the system for 15+ years.

Trusts are getting approved soon along with individuals. I can't see the trend in what is delaying. Especially since I know how long ago my background checks were completed

 

[jimmy917]

Called last week, for a 1/12/23 certification date. She said they're averaging 190 days. I'm about 220 and counting.

 

[KingTutsButt]

I'm a trust. A well established trust, with a lot of items already in the system for 15+ years.

Trusts are getting approved soon along with individuals. I can't see the trend in what is delaying. Especially since I know how long ago my background checks were completed

I suspect that the whole "wait" period is by design. I imagine it serves as a hinderance to people.

 

[Charger442]

I suspect that the whole "wait" period is by design. I imagine it serves as a hinderance to people.

I spoke with a friend/acquaintance who works for my senator at Christmas. He is 100% convinced it's by design from this administration.

 

[willow_womper]

Certified:2/15/23
Approved:188 days
Individual Form 4
SBR- Honey B

 

[Charger442]

Certified:2/15/23
Approved:188 days
Individual
SBR- Honey B

thats a Form 4 SBR?

 

[willow_womper]

thats a Form 4 SBR?

Yessir! Well worth the wait

 

[Charger442]

Yessir! Well worth the wait

Certainly. 3 months shorter than has been the norm

 

[KingTutsButt]

I spoke with a friend/acquaintance who works for my senator at Christmas. He is 100% convinced it's by design from this administration.

I was just reading that the ATF was blaming long lead times on the FBI background checks. I don't know - clearly something isn't right.

 

[Fmilby]

I was just reading that the ATF was blaming long lead times on the FBI background checks. I don't know - clearly something isn't right.

When I went through my inquiry with a congressman and emailing the atf the reason my can was 326 days before approval was indeed for this reason

 

[KingTutsButt]

When I went through my inquiry with a congressman and emailing the atf the reason my can was 326 days before approval was indeed for this reason

Frustrating. There shouldn't be a backlog for background checks, it is not a complicated process.

 

[Fmilby]

Frustrating. There shouldn't be a backlog for background checks, it is not a complicated process.

 

[Johnboy270]

I’m sitting at 370 days for my form 4 single shot trust.

It’s just astonishing that some people will get approved in 3 months, and others take longer than a year. And there is no rhyme or reason. The atf stating that their average 190 day wait means nothing.
Really just wish that they handled this stuff in order with some consistency, that way we all would at least have an idea when we were going to get approved.

 

[Fmilby]

I’m sitting at 370 days for my form 4 single shot trust.

It’s just astonishing that some people will get approved in 3 months, and others take longer than a year. And there is no rhyme or reason. The atf stating that their average 190 day wait means nothing.
Really just wish that they handled this stuff in order with some consistency, that way we all would at least have an idea when we were going to get approved.

Have you contacted your congressman? After I got to 300 days I did so and it was fairly simple

 

[Johnboy270]

Have you contacted your congressman? After I got to 300 days I did so and it was fairly simple

Yep, they were worthless.

 

[xfyre101]

Have you contacted your congressman? After I got to 300 days I did so and it was fairly simple

what exactly can a congressman do for you to help you in this scenario? im not very familiar.. and what would be their incentive or even care what is happening with atf queues?

 

[southernpew]

what exactly can a congressman do for you to help you in this scenario? im not very familiar.. and what would be their incentive or even care what is happening with atf queues?

Send a generic inquiry to the ATF and in return get the same generic response...

Some confuse the few exceptions that get an approval after "contacting their congressman" with that affecting their stamp with the whole system being random.