Submitted 12/15/2022
Approved 8/10/2023
238 days
Trust e-forms for 2 suppressors.
Approved 8/10/2023
238 days
Trust e-forms for 2 suppressors.
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CGS Hyperion
Silencer shop single shot trust
Submitted 6/26/23
Approved 8/1/23
36 days?
It blew me away. Wish I would have bought half a dozen at the same time. I was expecting the 200+ like all the others.
Silencer shop single shot trust
Submitted 6/26/23
Approved 8/1/23
36 days?
It blew me away. Wish I would have bought half a dozen at the same time. I was expecting the 200+ like all the others.
You must be living right! That’s awesome wish they all were that fast.
Random update...
Today is day 207 waiting for the OCL Polonium... (cert'd on 1/17/2023). Hopefully getting close.
Today is day 207 waiting for the OCL Polonium... (cert'd on 1/17/2023). Hopefully getting close.
Certified 12/8/22
Approved 8/15/23
250 days
Single person trust
This is a new personal best. It's a Dead Air Sierra5, taking bets on whether it lasts longer than it took to receive.
Approved 8/15/23
250 days
Single person trust
This is a new personal best. It's a Dead Air Sierra5, taking bets on whether it lasts longer than it took to receive.
After all this BS going on with them, I’m glad I didn’t buy one of those (like I was planning to originally), and went with a Polonium instead.Certified 12/8/22
Approved 8/15/23
250 days
Single person trust
This is a new personal best. It's a Dead Air Sierra5, taking bets on whether it lasts longer than it took to receive.
Buddy of mine just got a 2 can batch approved after 32 days...looks like wait times are dropping?
not exactly.
i cant be more adamant about this, but every single "fast" approval that is not part of a batch with atleast one item at 200+ days (For Form 1s) or over 60+ days for Form 1s, basically screws SO MANY PEOPLE who are still waiting on 200-300+ day waits on Form 4s.
They are ONLY doing this to manipulate their wait times that get reported to Congress. its complete horseshit and while the people who benefit from the quick approvals should be happy, their happiness comes at the expense of people who are still on very long waits going back to last fall.
Interesting...Is there rhyme or reason as to what/who has short waits? New submissions are getting quick approvals or what?
I agree with Charger442 but trying to figure out the ATF ‘system’ is just not possible. Only leads to confusion and frustration. I use a trust and have gotten 2 stamps together at 5 months and others at 10-12. Go figure!
It turns out that my fast approval was due to the gun shop closing and moving locations. So when the new location was submitted they were granted immediate approval on all stamps pending. They said it was over 300.
Sooo, who’s going to open a shop and move every 3 months???
Sooo, who’s going to open a shop and move every 3 months???
yeah its exactly this.. ive never heard of a "fast" approval without extenuating circumstances..
the most common one being that the FFL is closing down or being shut down
then you have the lucky ones who get batch approvals but this is not guaranteed even if you have multiple orders on wait
and then you have your leo/mil fast tracks
10 tax stamps moving all my dumb ass individual and single shot trusts into a single trust
Did the paperwork myself, took 10 months but obviously didn’t matter since I already had the tax stamps
10/13/2022
8/18/2023
Did the paperwork myself, took 10 months but obviously didn’t matter since I already had the tax stamps
10/13/2022
8/18/2023
Another one came in today.
Sig SLH300Ti
Certified 2/3/2023
Approved 8/18/2023
197 days
Individual
Sig SLH300Ti
Certified 2/3/2023
Approved 8/18/2023
197 days
Individual
Got my second can approved in a little over a week after the one that was ordered two months earlier.
Submitted 2/4/2023
Approved 8/18/2023
195 days
TBAC takedown 22
individual eform 4
Submitted 2/4/2023
Approved 8/18/2023
195 days
TBAC takedown 22
individual eform 4
This is what @Str8shuutr45 (L) and @Starbuck_08 (R) look like in real life. That's why it took less than 200 days to get approved. Congratulations ladies!
Form filed on 12/22/22 Approved 8/19/23 (7 months 3 Weeks 6 Days) on an AEM 5
KGM R556 approved today. 26 weeks. I’ll take it.
Slooowly coming down. Nice. At this rate we’ll be at 90 days in about 2025 or so.
Still got a lot of us from 2022 and around New years to get through before I say anything is coming down
Charger, are you filing as an individual or a trust? I’m sure I saw you post that but I have no idea how far back it is. Just curious as it seems like individuals have been coming back sooner than the trusts lately.
But like I always say, there’s no rhyme or reason to these approvals and no way to decipher when an application will be approved.
I'm a trust. A well established trust, with a lot of items already in the system for 15+ years.
Trusts are getting approved soon along with individuals. I can't see the trend in what is delaying. Especially since I know how long ago my background checks were completed
Called last week, for a 1/12/23 certification date. She said they're averaging 190 days. I'm about 220 and counting.
I suspect that the whole "wait" period is by design. I imagine it serves as a hinderance to people.
I spoke with a friend/acquaintance who works for my senator at Christmas. He is 100% convinced it's by design from this administration.
Certified:2/15/23
Approved:188 days
Individual Form 4
SBR- Honey B
Approved:188 days
Individual Form 4
SBR- Honey B
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I was just reading that the ATF was blaming long lead times on the FBI background checks. I don't know - clearly something isn't right.
Frustrating. There shouldn't be a backlog for background checks, it is not a complicated process.
I’m sitting at 370 days for my form 4 single shot trust.
It’s just astonishing that some people will get approved in 3 months, and others take longer than a year. And there is no rhyme or reason. The atf stating that their average 190 day wait means nothing.
Really just wish that they handled this stuff in order with some consistency, that way we all would at least have an idea when we were going to get approved.
It’s just astonishing that some people will get approved in 3 months, and others take longer than a year. And there is no rhyme or reason. The atf stating that their average 190 day wait means nothing.
Really just wish that they handled this stuff in order with some consistency, that way we all would at least have an idea when we were going to get approved.
what exactly can a congressman do for you to help you in this scenario? im not very familiar.. and what would be their incentive or even care what is happening with atf queues?
Send a generic inquiry to the ATF and in return get the same generic response...
Some confuse the few exceptions that get an approval after "contacting their congressman" with that affecting their stamp with the whole system being random.
No matter what your legislative asshole's (House or Senate) views on guns is (and I live in the deep blue state of Maryland), they all have constituent services weenies to handle inquires like this.
In my case, where ATF just kept saying "pending", when my Senator's office inquired then the ATF came back and said I was on hold with the FBI NICS for three months...and yes, there is no other way to find this out as the FBI doesn't publish any contact info and doesn't want your phone calls or emails.
ATF said contact FBI as if that was feasible.
Long story short, ended up that after pinging the FBI, my NICS check was cleared within a day then ATF issued my stamp within a week.
May/may not work for others.
I was a USAF officer (yeah, back when we were still flying biplanes), have held security clearances as both mil and civ, and have NO FBI file whatsoever. Nonetheless, I tired of the FBI NICS shenanigans (yeah, put on NICS hold routinely, lifted from 15 minutes to next day...assholes) so I got a UPIN. Haven't used it yet, but if I get put on hold with NICS with a UPIN...which is a pre-clearance process, right...I'll prob go on war path with Senator again.
Fucking government at work. sigh
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