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Many around here who took the jab now showing same.

can't go 100% on that but some sure have been and with devastating effect. your point about "today's" is a very good one. the manuf has been perverted with the genetic attacking components. those likely added for profit or pop eradication. BOTH? there are diseases that immunity to is a huge benefit to humanity plague,polio,yellow fever,small pox to name a few. with the murderous corruption of the whole process by-we know who-the issue becomes Russian roulette. do you gamble on getting the disease or gamble on a drug that is not proven safe and shown to be damaging in many,many cases?
i'm too old for it to matter,as are many of us. there are still millions of little ones out there at risk from a 2 edged sword.


Look up Dr Leonard Horrowitz. You have to dig real deep cause they have made great strides in burying his work.
Not a quack, he was in a position to know how they were developing the vaccines 40+ years ago that intentional or not, were bioweapons.
There is no reason to vaccinate every child for hepatitis B. Also no reason to vaccinate for mumps, measles and chicken pox.
Vaccines are money makers 100 times over for the Medical Industrial Complex.
There is no money in curing people.
 
Look up Dr Leonard Horrowitz. You have to dig real deep cause they have made great strides in burying his work.
Not a quack, he was in a position to know how they were developing the vaccines 40+ years ago that intentional or not, were bioweapons.
There is no reason to vaccinate every child for hepatitis B. Also no reason to vaccinate for mumps, measles and chicken pox.
Vaccines are money makers 100 times over for the Medical Industrial Complex.
There is no money in curing people.
i will do that. i still believe creating immunity is a benefit. hep b vax in infants (along with a bunch more) is the perfect example of profit driven malpractice. the change from tet toxoid to DPT prophylaxis for a penetrating wound was always suspicious to me. never heard of a diptheria case in US in ever. pertussis is generally infants only and very rare as well. my vax cynicism was rudimentary at the time. the 1 and only flu shot i ever got ('75) reinforced it a bunch. just took about 20yr experience to make me not believe a lot of work stuff. i am not sure but i believe the "recommended" vax #s on infants is > 20 (?).

as an aside,i can tell you that if you have ever seen a case of active tetanus,you will likely take the shot. other nurses with 30-50yr experience often doubt that i have seen 3,but i have. i actually don't know another RN or a doc that has seen even 1 or heard of 1 anywhere they have been. 2 were actve when i saw them and died ugly. 1 was caught on like day 2 post injury and was caught by 2 brilliant docs in 2 separate ERs sent to my place as an emergent referral. she lived after a somewhat stormy coarse.
 
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the change from tet toxoid to DPT prophylaxis for a penetrating wound was always suspicious to me. never heard of a diptheria case in US in ever. pertussis is generally infants only and very rare as well. my vax cynicism was

The last(actually the first) DPT shot i had was about 10 years ago.
I thought my arm was gonna melt and fall off.
I have no problem with a tetanus shot, never a problem or reaction.
I don't trust the DPT.
Got cut bad on some dirty steel siding several weeks ago....i reckon i lucked out on the lockjaw.
 
You probably don't realize that there is zero evidence that the small pox blankets thing ever happened. If it ever did, it was almost certainly unintentional. The "genocide" occurred from about 1500-1600 gove or take, and it was not intentional. Nobody even knew it was happening. 99% of the natives that died never even saw a white person, ever in their lives. It's the only "genocide" in history (a very disingenuous way to describe a bunch of people who's entire civilizations couldn't defeat the rhino virus) where nobody was intentionally killing anyone at any scale. You'd probably be amazed to find out how much stuff you're carrying around in your head that is absolutely bullshit.

Here's another one for you: the US government never made an effort to erradicate the Buffalo so the Indians would lose their food source. Like the above "genocide" shit, it's another lie. It all came from some lying sack of shit who claimed he heard Gen Sherman say it in Texas in about 1880. The problem was that it never happened, but people have been repeating these lies for over a century now.
Wait. Let me guess . The holocaust never happened..man, where do you come up with some of these assertions ? Lots of evidence that the British used smallpox infected blankets and handkerchiefs during the French and Indian War against tribes allied to the French with devastating effect.You can look it up, but why? You won’t believe it if it doesn’t fit your own version of history. Wherever that came from. Same goes for the Army’s organized campaign to deny the plains tribes of the buffalo.
 
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Wait. Let me guess . The holocaust never happened..man, where do you come up with some of these assertions ? Lots of evidence that the British used smallpox infected blankets and handkerchiefs during the French and Indian War against tribes allied to the French with devastating effect.You can look it up, but why? You won’t believe it if it doesn’t fit your own version of history. Wherever that came from. Same goes for the Army’s organized campaign to deny the plains tribes of the buffalo.
Ok, prove it. Prove either of them..
 
Wait. Let me guess . The holocaust never happened..man, where do you come up with some of these assertions ? Lots of evidence that the British used smallpox infected blankets and handkerchiefs during the French and Indian War against tribes allied to the French with devastating effect.You can look it up, but why? You won’t believe it if it doesn’t fit your own version of history. Wherever that came from. Same goes for the Army’s organized campaign to deny the plains tribes of the buffalo.
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Another vax thread with vax/no vax stories… Sounds fun.

Just remember, no one was forced to take this jab. A lot of folks think they were, but they did it willingly.

I worked for a 10k employee corporation during the Covid BS, and they were paying employees 1,000 bucks to go get the jab. It was never a company mandate to get it, but it was highly encouraged, even to the extent of bribing their employees with money.
Needless to say I no longer work for them.
Not accurate.

Military; forced
Incarcerated; forced
Health care: forced
Me: lost my job over it. Make almost 50k less a year now.

Taking your livelihood IS forcing it.

You're not making the point you think you are.

If you have to choose between your livelihood or a shot, you are being forced
 
People in medical field. Married with. Kids. Big student loads. Mortgage. Daycare.

wtf were they supposed to do ?
I find that thinking,... before inking,... allows a level of life freedoms many will never know or experience. Once you buy in you're just a passenger, at the whims of the designer, maintenance staff, or management. Debt free = a freedom most in this country will never know do to a weakness of look at me shit, via peer pressure. Debt is why the covid scam worked so well,...

From the link below

What Percentage of America is Debt Free?​


Currently, approximately 23% of Americans are living completely debt-free. This figure, based on the most recent data from the Federal Reserve, considers all forms of debt, including credit card balances, student loans, mortgages, and auto loans. While a minority, this segment of the population has managed to navigate the complexities of modern finance and achieve a state of financial freedom from owing money to creditors. The journey to becoming debt-free is often challenging, requiring discipline, strategic financial planning, and a dedication to budgeting. However, the benefits of shedding the weight of debt can be significant.

 
You probably don't realize that there is zero evidence that the small pox blankets thing ever happened. If it ever did, it was almost certainly unintentional. The "genocide" occurred from about 1500-1600 gove or take, and it was not intentional. Nobody even knew it was happening. 99% of the natives that died never even saw a white person, ever in their lives. It's the only "genocide" in history (a very disingenuous way to describe a bunch of people who's entire civilizations couldn't defeat the rhino virus) where nobody was intentionally killing anyone at any scale. You'd probably be amazed to find out how much stuff you're carrying around in your head that is absolutely bullshit.

Here's another one for you: the US government never made an effort to erradicate the Buffalo so the Indians would lose their food source. Like the above "genocide" shit, it's another lie. It all came from some lying sack of shit who claimed he heard Gen Sherman say it in Texas in about 1880. The problem was that it never happened, but people have been repeating these lies for over a century now.
The bison's immune system was as unprepared for brucellosis as the native's was for small pox.

Most of the enslaving and killing of natives out west was done by the Spanish before the territory was bought by the U.S.
 
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The bison's immune system was as unprepared for brucellosis as the native's was for small pox.

Most of the enslaving and killing of natives out west was done by the Spanish before the territory was bought by the U.S.
The estimated buffalo population was also bullshit. They claimed forever that it was 30 million at the point of Europen contact. This was based on one guy observing a single herd travel for a few days, then he came up with some sort of calculation based on the area they occupied and spit out "30 million". The number was actually 5-8 million. Also, the natives were killing the buffalo for tongues just like the Europeans. Entire tribes were dedicated to killing them, just like the buffalo hunters. The last big herd was killed in Canada near the red river by a tribe. There was never a US government or a military policy to eradicate the buffalo. That may be the most oft repeated lie in Aemrican history. It's all based on one guy saying that he heard general Sherman say it in Texas in around 1880. The problem was that Sherman was never in Texas within a decade of that claim being made. He was lying. Nobody else ever claimed to have heard such a speech either. All of those guys had stenographers that wrote everything they said, and it never happened. There was never a government policy or a military directive to do anything to the buffo. Even the guys who were doing the killing never had any idea they were killing them off. They all believed there were millions more out there wandering around. See, white guilt has been around for a long time, and people enjoy this self-flagalation so much that they'd rather keep repeating the lie than researching the truth.
 
Ok, prove it. Prove either of them..
As I stated, you wouldn’t believe anything I might present because it wouldn’t fit that part of your world view, so an exercise in futility. You know, if one wants to badly enough, and one tries hard enough, for long enough, one can find revisionist history that fits one’s psychological, political, or religious outlook or opinion, facts be damned.
 
As I stated, you wouldn’t believe anything I might present because it wouldn’t fit that part of your world view, so an exercise in futility. You know, if one wants to badly enough, and one tries hard enough, for long enough, one can find revisionist history that fits one’s psychological, political, or religious outlook or opinion, facts be damned.
Get the fuck out of here with that mealy mouth bullshit.
 
As I stated, you wouldn’t believe anything I might present because it wouldn’t fit that part of your world view, so an exercise in futility. You know, if one wants to badly enough, and one tries hard enough, for long enough, one can find revisionist history that fits one’s psychological, political, or religious outlook or opinion, facts be damned.
So..... I'm ready to listen to any proof you can provide. Here is what proof looks like: primary source information. You'll never find any for either of these issues. This is the tip of the iceberg for people your age. You guys had your heads filled with bullshit from birth. The difference is that sone of us from later generations have been exposed to the reality of the dishonesty of the public education system. Many folks from your generation are incapable of critical thought. You think everything your teachers told you is true. Everything Walter Cronkite said is the truth.

Wait until I tell you about Abraham Lincoln. The biggest piece of shit to ever occupy the white house. Your generation marches in parades for that faggot. The truth is out there if you open your eyes. The base of information you were raised with is chock full of bullshit.
 
I think there is ample proof that wisdom doesn't always come with age. The people screaming at us to trust the government are all 60+ or infected with the liberal mind virus. They largely aren't getting the information that the rest of us are. They mostly lived their lives believing everything they heard or read from a media source was true and accurate. You can't unwind 6+ decades of successful brainwashing that quickly in some cases.
I have the age t-shirt but somehow missed out on this fuck's naritive.

Get out of the basement some time, maybe take some of those magic mushrooms and expand your mind because it seems to be disfunctional as is.

Nothing in there to loose.
 
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I have the age t-shirt but somehow missed out on this fuck's naritive.

Get out of the basement some time, maybe take some of those magic mushrooms and expand your mind because it seems to be disfunctional as is.

Nothing in there to loose.
Spoken like a true member of the fudd club. If you don't realize that what I'm saying is true, it's because you're exactly who I'm talking about. I've had my share of experiences with psychedelics. I've always struggled with the idea that people should revere someone just because they haven't died yet. The most boring, uninteresting people on earth often live to old age, while people who are really pushing the envelope often don't. I always thought about the proportion of idiots in any swath of any demographic and it's pretty obvious that there are significantly more old idiots than old people with any damn sense, just like every age group. If you're a fucking moron, age probably isn't going to cure it. No other group is so currently resistant to the idea that you better re-visit every idea you're carrying in your head. You guys were spoon fed mountains of bullshit and most of you don't even know it. The most egregious cases fight hard to defend the bullshit they were told without ever considering that they are wrong.
 
The estimated buffalo population was also bullshit. They claimed forever that it was 30 million at the point of Europen contact. This was based on one guy observing a single herd travel for a few days, then he came up with some sort of calculation based on the area they occupied and spit out "30 million". The number was actually 5-8 million. Also, the natives were killing the buffalo for tongues just like the Europeans. Entire tribes were dedicated to killing them, just like the buffalo hunters. The last big herd was killed in Canada near the red river by a tribe. There was never a US government or a military policy to eradicate the buffalo. That may be the most oft repeated lie in Aemrican history. It's all based on one guy saying that he heard general Sherman say it in Texas in around 1880. The problem was that Sherman was never in Texas within a decade of that claim being made. He was lying. Nobody else ever claimed to have heard such a speech either. All of those guys had stenographers that wrote everything they said, and it never happened. There was never a government policy or a military directive to do anything to the buffo. Even the guys who were doing the killing never had any idea they were killing them off. They all believed there were millions more out there wandering around. See, white guilt has been around for a long time, and people enjoy this self-flagalation so much that they'd rather keep repeating the lie than researching the truth.

I am not agreeing with all you have said in these posts, but there are some truths in what you are asserting.
One that sticks out is the fact that there were NEVER 30 million buffalo....or even 10 million.
Everone was killing buffalo because "meat" and skins.
 
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Hope the toilet doesn't get clogged on this one. May have to flush twice.

Spoken like a true member of the fudd club. If you don't realize that what I'm saying is true, it's because you're exactly who I'm talking about. I've had my share of experiences with psychedelics. I've always struggled with the idea that people should revere someone just because they haven't died yet. The most boring, uninteresting people on earth often live to old age, while people who are really pushing the envelope often don't. I always thought about the proportion of idiots in any swath of any demographic and it's pretty obvious that there are significantly more old idiots than old people with any damn sense, just like every age group. If you're a fucking moron, age probably isn't going to cure it. No other group is so currently resistant to the idea that you better re-visit every idea you're carrying in your head. You guys were spoon fed mountains of bullshit and most of you don't even know it. The most egregious cases fight hard to defend the bullshit they were told without ever considering that they are wrong.
Edit: I forgot to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass deeply.
 
Spoken like a true member of the fudd club. If you don't realize that what I'm saying is true, it's because you're exactly who I'm talking about. I've had my share of experiences with psychedelics. I've always struggled with the idea that people should revere someone just because they haven't died yet. The most boring, uninteresting people on earth often live to old age, while people who are really pushing the envelope often don't. I always thought about the proportion of idiots in any swath of any demographic and it's pretty obvious that there are significantly more old idiots than old people with any damn sense, just like every age group. If you're a fucking moron, age probably isn't going to cure it. No other group is so currently resistant to the idea that you better re-visit every idea you're carrying in your head. You guys were spoon fed mountains of bullshit and most of you don't even know it. The most egregious cases fight hard to defend the bullshit they were told without ever considering that they are wrong.
LOL.....most everything you're talking about is published opinion. You can't back up anything you said. For instance, you're likely old enough to have witness 9/11. What happened? You lived it, you watched it on TV just like the rest of us......so what happened? Did planes bring the buildings down? Was it Saudis? You watched it, just like the rest of us, so fill us in since you have it all figured out.

You're plenty old enough to have seen the 2020 election. Who won that, Trump or Biden? Biden was your acting President, so he won that election? That's what history in 2125 will say, it'll be his picture in the books. So he won?

Again, you can't prove anything you're saying, and even if you were alive when the buffalo were, you still couldn't prove it was or wasn't 30 million! It's all published opinion, maybe some is true and maybe some is not. Calling a whole generation mislead or wrong......is just your opinion.
 
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LOL.....most everything you're talking about is published opinion. You can't back up anything you said. For instance, you're likely old enough to have witness 9/11. What happened? You lived it, you watched it on TV just like the rest of us......so what happened? Did planes bring the buildings down? Was it Saudis? You watched it, just like the rest of us, so fill us in since you have it all figured out.

You're plenty old enough to have seen the 2020 election. Who won that, Trump or Biden? Biden was your acting President, so he won that election? That's what history in 2125 will say, it'll be his picture in the books. So he won?

Again, you can't prove anything you're saying, and even if you were alive when the buffalo were, you still couldn't prove it was or wasn't 30 million! It's all published opinion, maybe some is true and maybe some is not. Calling a whole generation mislead or wrong......is just your opinion.
Thanks for proving my point. You're a fudd supreme. You're literally proving my point while arguing against what I said. There is an old saying that "science moves forward one funeral at a time". It's because you fucking boomers were brainwashed with bullshit and most of you are so fucking sure that youre right that you've never bothered investigating anything. You fucking gatekeepers are the problem. We almost lost this country, or maybe we have lost it, and are too far gone to recover, and it happened on your watch. You motherfuckers where the generation that allowed what we've become. My generation is going to right this ship or die trying.


I'll prove it with a simple experiment:
Have you ever read the emancipation proclamation? What does it say?
 
Thanks for proving my point. You're a fudd supreme. You're literally proving my point while arguing against what I said. There is an old saying that "science moves forward one funeral at a time". It's because you fucking boomers were brainwashed with bullshit and most of you are so fucking sure that youre right that you've never bothered investigating anything. You fucking gatekeepers are the problem. We almost lost this country, or maybe we have lost it, and are too far gone to recover, and it happened on your watch. You motherfuckers where the generation that allowed what we've become. My generation is going to right this ship or die trying.


I'll prove it with a simple experiment:
Have you ever read the emancipation proclamation? What does it say?
Man! You just made my day! “ My generation is going to right this ship or die trying. “ We said the same damn thing…..back in the 60’s! Peace, brother!