DeLane Development Group Rimfire Ventures
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She’s together… waiting on ammo to hit the FFL….
For 22LR mags, if the spring pressure is not too much, prefer the thumb button to assist in loading.
I prefer a top loader if spring pressure is significant to load the last 5 rounds in a 15 round mag as trying to hold against increasing harder spring pressure creates pain in my arthritic thumb. I found the RimX and L3i billet (1 lb fucking too heavy) magazine spring pressure to be ideal (for reference).
Having both loading methods is the best options to have as all things change over time.
I prefer a top loader if spring pressure is significant to load the last 5 rounds in a 15 round mag as trying to hold against increasing harder spring pressure creates pain in my arthritic thumb. I found the RimX and L3i billet (1 lb fucking too heavy) magazine spring pressure to be ideal (for reference).
Having both loading methods is the best options to have as all things change over time.
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Who did the mag blocker you are running on the Team MAX??
Nice Stock by the way!!
@RAVAGE88 Iw I'll still go thumb button and loader. I use the loader on all my magazines above 10 rounds. I found that I screw up a couple rounds and rim lock them on the longer 12 & 15 round mags if I load with the button. The new loader looks great. I still have the first Vudoo ones and some of the Hoz n' Shield ones.
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I made the 2” brass rail, mag blockers, butt plates, and 419 data card adapter to run it on the ring tops.
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Hey Mike,
How can we tell if we have the early mags vs the newer St George mags?
Thanks a bunch!
Ok, been a rather long day getting the final production details squared away for the DDG Receiver Wrenches. Everything is validated and they're full tilt boogie.
So, along with the Receiver Wrenches, Lot Test Fixture, Bolt Disassembly Tool and the new Loading Tool, any other tools you guys need?
MB
So, along with the Receiver Wrenches, Lot Test Fixture, Bolt Disassembly Tool and the new Loading Tool, any other tools you guys need?
MB
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It's hard to describe and the details don't show well in pictures. If your mags are working, you're good to go.
MB
Do you count the Lapua Test Fixture (and optional accessories) as a tool or as its own separate category?
So far, I’m in for all of the above.
Any tool you have used or recommend (whether you make/provide it or not) for the DIY smif to service the Vudoo for a very long and healthy life of service (not counting small parts replacements)?
Thanks MB for all of this!
Yessir, I forgot to list the Test Fixture, thanks for adding it.
I’ll go through the stuff I use and see what makes sense.
MB
If I can buy an action wrench for my V22S I'd be good to go.
I will say I find the test fixture very interesting.
Moving right along, the DDG Lot Test Fixture (LTF) and Bushing Plate with my DDG Inlet is validated and in production. This LTF accepts my DBM in place of the Bushing Plate.
An additional LTF is following close behind with the M5 and M5x inlets and will have an associated Bushing Plate that fits the M5 and M5x inlet.
I'm also doing two other DBMs; the standard M5 and my M5x. The M5 needs no explanation. The M5x has my Pre-Load Piston as an "xtra" feature. The M5x will require a simple revision to the standard M5 inlet, and a clearance cut needs to be made on the bottom of the receiver to allow the Pre-Load Piston to function.
All three DBMs feature an adjustable release.
One may remember from a prior post that the Pre-Load Piston captures the magazine between two points and eliminates vertical movement of the magazine.
Additionally, to be described in further detail later, the DDG 2210x, DDG 2212x and DDG 2215x Magazines have something a little "xtra" as well.
MB
An additional LTF is following close behind with the M5 and M5x inlets and will have an associated Bushing Plate that fits the M5 and M5x inlet.
I'm also doing two other DBMs; the standard M5 and my M5x. The M5 needs no explanation. The M5x has my Pre-Load Piston as an "xtra" feature. The M5x will require a simple revision to the standard M5 inlet, and a clearance cut needs to be made on the bottom of the receiver to allow the Pre-Load Piston to function.
All three DBMs feature an adjustable release.
One may remember from a prior post that the Pre-Load Piston captures the magazine between two points and eliminates vertical movement of the magazine.
Additionally, to be described in further detail later, the DDG 2210x, DDG 2212x and DDG 2215x Magazines have something a little "xtra" as well.
MB
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My buddy, Bob Mead, made a special request to add an ARCA Rail to the DDG Lot Test Fixture, so 8.37 minutes later, here ya go.
MB
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Ooooh, I like that! No need to clamp on the sides if you can clamp on the arca rail!
Now yer just showing off.
Lots of time spent in part validation to keep things moving and the last of the per part effort is prints. Prints are the single best communication tool, as it's where the standard is set.
Like I've stated elsewhere recently, "Demand a higher standard or take what they give you."
I'm getting very close to accepting orders and expect that I'll flip the switch for Receiver Wrenches within the next couple of days. So stayed tuned here, the DeLane Development FB Group, other various FB groups, and keep an eye on your email inbox.
MB
Like I've stated elsewhere recently, "Demand a higher standard or take what they give you."
I'm getting very close to accepting orders and expect that I'll flip the switch for Receiver Wrenches within the next couple of days. So stayed tuned here, the DeLane Development FB Group, other various FB groups, and keep an eye on your email inbox.
MB
I prefer the thumb button. I don’t like the loader. After loading many magazines I can load them blind - I don’t even have to look. I can tell by the feel of the round if it is loaded properly.
As I've worked on part validation as part of the process to move components into production, I've investigated various issues that have been communicated to me regarding function (light strikes, extraction, ejection, feeding, etc.), with more recent (from roughly 2022) component quality. The greater of the issues have been in the Three60 repeater, a portion of which I've been able to assist with via email.
When the Parts Kit effort started, I immediately began building a database of end users and what generation of action(s) each end user has, and I've used that database by randomly emailing 10 or more of you at a time with various questions. The more recent question was regarding a specific dimension on the firing pins, and I asked for a reply noting the dimension of a feature noted in a supplied print.
In true Rimfire Community fashion, the replies rolled in quickly with pics of the measuring device showing the dimension which lined up with my theory regarding a specific communicated issue. I'm using the info from the Community as part of the process for part validation to ensure that what I ship as part of the comprehensive parts kits is superior to what has been in the rifles.
This same effort is running in parallel with magazine development and ultimately, the greater effort to develop my new Rimfire Bolt Actions.
MB
When the Parts Kit effort started, I immediately began building a database of end users and what generation of action(s) each end user has, and I've used that database by randomly emailing 10 or more of you at a time with various questions. The more recent question was regarding a specific dimension on the firing pins, and I asked for a reply noting the dimension of a feature noted in a supplied print.
In true Rimfire Community fashion, the replies rolled in quickly with pics of the measuring device showing the dimension which lined up with my theory regarding a specific communicated issue. I'm using the info from the Community as part of the process for part validation to ensure that what I ship as part of the comprehensive parts kits is superior to what has been in the rifles.
This same effort is running in parallel with magazine development and ultimately, the greater effort to develop my new Rimfire Bolt Actions.
MB
The V-22 Extractor System; same as the Remington 40X Rimfire Extractor System, now, same as other systems out there. Although it has been successful, it's tired (maybe like many of us
).
As I've worked on the new PRS geared Rimfire Bolt Action, the identified weaknesses in what has been, are being addressed. Many already know that the V-22 was originally supposed to be the re-introduced Remington 40X Rimfire Repeater, so, it was natural to use the extraction system.
Just yesterday, I had someone email with a question, and he mentioned that he launched the extractor retaining plunger across the room during maintenance and it took him two hours to find it. He actually wasn't sure he'd find it, and this was in his only match rifle with an upcoming match, he's in a foreign land to the U.S., and by all appearances, he may have been in a bad spot for a replacement part.
Thankfully, he found it, but what if he hadn't? How many of you have launched the legacy extractor parts and not found them? I know I have.
Another emailed to respond to a question I asked about a specific firing pin dimension and included a question about the pusher. His experience has been that shape "B" has been better than shape "A" (I'm merely using "A" and "B" as references to the pictures he provided, not that there are revisions labeled as such).
So, what's in the new system will be far simpler, far more effective, and considerably less "tired."
MB
As I've worked on the new PRS geared Rimfire Bolt Action, the identified weaknesses in what has been, are being addressed. Many already know that the V-22 was originally supposed to be the re-introduced Remington 40X Rimfire Repeater, so, it was natural to use the extraction system.
Just yesterday, I had someone email with a question, and he mentioned that he launched the extractor retaining plunger across the room during maintenance and it took him two hours to find it. He actually wasn't sure he'd find it, and this was in his only match rifle with an upcoming match, he's in a foreign land to the U.S., and by all appearances, he may have been in a bad spot for a replacement part.
Thankfully, he found it, but what if he hadn't? How many of you have launched the legacy extractor parts and not found them? I know I have.
Another emailed to respond to a question I asked about a specific firing pin dimension and included a question about the pusher. His experience has been that shape "B" has been better than shape "A" (I'm merely using "A" and "B" as references to the pictures he provided, not that there are revisions labeled as such).
So, what's in the new system will be far simpler, far more effective, and considerably less "tired."
MB
I find the extractors and associated parts easy to remove and even easier to put back in. I remove mine for cleaning about every two matches.
I also have 4 extra sets....just in case something breaks or goes wrong.
Can you share what A and B look like?
I also have 4 extra sets....just in case something breaks or goes wrong.
Can you share what A and B look like?
This is probably out there somewhere because of the vast amounts of info on Vudoo, but I have not found it.
Can I get a drawing for the barrel thread tenon for a Vudoo gen2?
Can I get a drawing for the barrel thread tenon for a Vudoo gen2?
Heads Up:
I’ll be accepting orders for the DDG Receiver Wrenches NLT this Friday. Pricing will be the same as the ones that have been available in the past (I don’t want to post pricing on FB) plus S&H. If you’d like to get ahead of the rush, feel free to email me anytime with which one(s) you’d like.
The part numbers and descriptions are:
Once I receive your email, you’ll receive an invoice and can scan either QR code for CASH App or Venmo.
As always, please reach out with any questions you may have.
MB
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I’ll be accepting orders for the DDG Receiver Wrenches NLT this Friday. Pricing will be the same as the ones that have been available in the past (I don’t want to post pricing on FB) plus S&H. If you’d like to get ahead of the rush, feel free to email me anytime with which one(s) you’d like.
The part numbers and descriptions are:
- DDG-RW-G1LH—Gen 1 Left Hand
- DDG-RW-G1RH—Gen 1 Right Hand
- DDG-RW-G2LH—Gen 2 Left Hand
- DDG-RW-G2RH—Gen 2 Right Hand
- DDG-RW-G3LH—Gen 3 Left Hand
- DDG-RW-G3RH—Gen 3 Right Hand
Once I receive your email, you’ll receive an invoice and can scan either QR code for CASH App or Venmo.
As always, please reach out with any questions you may have.
MB
[email protected]
Quick update:
I planned to be accepting orders today, but the processing for Venmo, CASH App (business profiles) and the Merchant Services to process CC payments won't be completely verified and available to use until around mid-next week, maybe sooner.
At that time, what will be available for order will be all of the DDG Receiver Wrenches and DDG Lot Test Fixture with M5 Inlet and Bushing Plate.
A note on the Lot Test Fixture; it accepts any Remington 700 short action footprint, so obviously, more than the V-22 line of rimfire rifles are compatible. RimX, Bergara, Deuce 2.0, and a host of centerfire clones will all fit and feed from M5 profile DBMs along with my own M5x and DDG DBMs.
Currently, the MDT M5 DBM won't fit because of the skirted magazine well that's on the stock line at three degrees and I haven't decided if I'll make a fixture specifically for that DBM, but if there are enough of them out there already, I'll do it.
The Spare Parts Kits are running; I have Cocking Pieces and other parts inbound and what's running a little behind are all the pins (firing, threaded, extractor plunger), but I expect they'll be catching up this coming week.
If anyone has any questions, post them up or reach out via email.
MB
[email protected]
I planned to be accepting orders today, but the processing for Venmo, CASH App (business profiles) and the Merchant Services to process CC payments won't be completely verified and available to use until around mid-next week, maybe sooner.
At that time, what will be available for order will be all of the DDG Receiver Wrenches and DDG Lot Test Fixture with M5 Inlet and Bushing Plate.
A note on the Lot Test Fixture; it accepts any Remington 700 short action footprint, so obviously, more than the V-22 line of rimfire rifles are compatible. RimX, Bergara, Deuce 2.0, and a host of centerfire clones will all fit and feed from M5 profile DBMs along with my own M5x and DDG DBMs.
Currently, the MDT M5 DBM won't fit because of the skirted magazine well that's on the stock line at three degrees and I haven't decided if I'll make a fixture specifically for that DBM, but if there are enough of them out there already, I'll do it.
The Spare Parts Kits are running; I have Cocking Pieces and other parts inbound and what's running a little behind are all the pins (firing, threaded, extractor plunger), but I expect they'll be catching up this coming week.
If anyone has any questions, post them up or reach out via email.
MB
[email protected]
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Someone chimed in pretty quickly about the relevance of the MDT DBM fitting the Lot Test Fixture, so I cooked this up quickly. It's not perfect yet, but I'll have time over the weekend to refine it. You guys have an interest in the MDT fitting the fixture?
MB
MB
Any of the well dimensioned M5s should fit and the point has been made than many are buying the MDT because of the adjustable release. Mine two M5s aren't finished just yet, as I'm developing them along with the new magazines. The more popular ones now seem to be the Hawkins and MDT. I have an MDT on my work bench and a Hawkins will arrive tomorrow, as I generally benchmark as part of my development projects.
My M5x is the M5 profile with the Pre-Load Piston, so because of the bumpus that houses the piston protrudes from the profile, stocks will need a slight adjustment with a hand-mill to allow the bumpus to fit. Also, because the piston has to travel vertically, a clearance needs to be cut on the bottom of the receiver (in front of the trigger pocket) to allow the piston to travel upward when the magazine is interted.
MB
I've created the configuration in SolidWorks, and I'll likely have it finished tonight.
MB
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