Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

I’m wondering how many here actually watched the guy’s channel.
Not regularly, but occasionally. Mostly when my son or one of his friends said I should check out a particular episode or clip.

That’s why he was killed IMHO; too effective reaching young people. Most folks smart and charismatic enough to do what he did with ease are either arrogant, or assholes…or both. He was a bright star in an ever-dimming world.

What a loss for the next generation.
 
I’m wondering how many here actually watched the guy’s channel.
What's the relevance?
I'm not American and never heard of him before.
Watching someone get shot in the neck for sitting on chair and talking to people was disgusting.
His targeted demographic wasn't boomers so that rules out 99% of the Hide anyway.
 
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I’m always weary of the bandwagon effect.
Weary or leery?

Regardless, I get what you’re saying and concur. It’s easy to jump on a bandwagon when it aligns with your inner compass…moreso when it’s a popular position I suppose.

I think the reason you’ll get so much pushback here is that this hits home pretty hard for a lot of folks in this community. We’re all hurting because it wasn’t just Charlie Kirk who was killed, it also snuffed out a lot of the hope we all have (had?) for a brighter future for our kids and grandkids.

Every time we seem to begin turning this ship around and away from the cliff, something like this happens and we lose a little bit of our faith in humanity. I know I do, and have to actively work to keep from getting angry and morose.

Or maybe I’m just drunk and high on the pain pills I’m taking for my fucked up knee! LoL
 
Boy have you fallen off a cliff of stupidity

Charlie was just another religious cooker scam his was to the top

You are a putrid, tiny little, incosequential excuse for a human being.

I have pubic hairs that are smarter than you.

Go crawl back in your hole.
 
Carry on.
Look we don't even need to hypothesise about what would have happened if he was on the left as they have been saying whatever the fuck they want for years now and no one has been shot.

Without people choosing to engage Charlie, he would have had no platform. Anyone of the people that disagreed with him could simply have moved on, but no, when presented with a difference of opinion they had to resort to murder.
 
I'm not American and never heard of him before.
His targeted demographic wasn't boomers so that rules out 99% of the Hide anyway.

Interesting that you should mention that.

The Ukrobots SNB and NKK were very fond of sneering at the members of this forum for being “senile incontinent boomers.”

As a matter of fact, one of the earliest posters on this thread is also a very prolific Ukrobot and was quick to dive in to show his alignment with us “conservatives” despite being so far removed from our domestic politics.

Kind of like a nouveau immigrant who wears an oversized cowboy hat and attaches Longhorn cattle horns to his Honda Civic as a surrogate pledge of allegiance.

Nice try, but lots seems lost in translation.

Weary or leery?

Regardless, I get what you’re saying and concur. It’s easy to jump on a bandwagon when it aligns with your inner compass…moreso when it’s a popular position I suppose.

Or maybe I’m just drunk and high on pain pills for my fucked up knee! LoL

You’re right, the proper word is leery.

The pool looks very attractive and compelling to our base ideology, and thusly it’s easy to just dive in.

I would recommend more wine to go with the medications, but that would be very wrong of me
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If you were following the last Presidential election online it would be difficult to not be aware of Charlie Kirk. IMO Charlie Kirk and TPUSA, Scott Presler and a last minute infusion of money from Musk are what helped decide the election.

I agree.

But at the same time - we’re also the kinds of people who staunchly support the 2nd Amendment without even knowing what the rest of the Amendments are, if that makes any sense.
 
Weary or leery?

Regardless, I get what you’re saying and concur. It’s easy to jump on a bandwagon when it aligns with your inner compass…moreso when it’s a popular position I suppose.

I think the reason you’ll get so much pushback here is that this hits home pretty hard for a lot of folks in this community. We’re all hurting because it wasn’t just Charlie Kirk who was killed, it also snuffed out a lot of the hope we all have (had?) for a brighter future for our kids and grandkids.

Every time we seem to begin turning this ship around and away from the cliff, something like this happens and we lose a little bit of our faith in humanity. I know I do, and have to actively work to keep from getting angry and morose.

Or maybe I’m just drunk and high on the pain pills I’m taking for my fucked up knee! LoL
I think Charlie was aware of the concept of "three steps forward, two steps back". We need to as well. It's a continuous challenge and I'm not sure there will ever be a clear winner.
 
Erika Kirk's speech/statement to the world is one of the most powerful, inspirational things I have ever seen. What an unbelievably strong, amazing lady.
And, she did it two days after he was killed. I know I couldn't have done something like that. I would have been a complete mess.

It is difficult to watch. But I felt some of my humanity being restored. Everyone should watch it.
 
I think Charlie was aware of the concept of "three steps forward, two steps back". We need to as well. It's a continuous challenge and I'm not sure there will ever be a clear winner.



Considering they are shooting our leaders in the face repeatedly, we better make fucking sure there is a clear winner.


And when we win we need to do whatever is needed to make sure this poisonous ideology can never return to the American consciousness
 
This may sound morbid, I’m not trying to be. I saw the video, un edited, and to be honest my Bow does more damage to a complete deer torso and that supposed 30.06 round did to his neck. You could see his neck bulge (shock wave) and blood pour out, but a .06 at 200 yards (150ish gr) would still have over 1,500ft-lbs. that would easily pass through, or fragment and exit multiple directions. His neck took the full impact, kinda like a handgun round.
 
Fuck you troll… @MarinePMI
Bwaaahh need a tissue baby, he was a racist hate filled
You are a putrid, tiny little, incosequential excuse for a human being.

I have pubic hairs that are smarter than you.

Go crawl back in your hole.
I think the world is a better place with one less White Supremacist, kinda ironic too that a born and bred Republican was the one who took out the trash, stick that in ya pipe and smoke it Django !
 
While I completely understand where you are coming from, is our justice system really designed to equalize outcomes?

No, not at all. It could never do that, as you say. But it can provide "justice" for the crime committed. Justice is not necessarily 'eye for an eye" nor was it ever meant to be. Justice is all about the "appropriate punishment the crime committed." What we must all ask ourselves is, "Are there crimes and circumstances for which the 'forfeiture of life' is that necessary and sufficient measure of justice?" My answer would be, yes there are.

I think its all about public safety. This person needs to be removed from society for the safety of everyone else. So he'll be incarcerated.

But "incarceration for life" is not necessarily guaranteed. The prisoner could escape, or be released on a technicality discovered later on (mishandling of evidence, etc.). With Capital Punishment, public safety is guaranteed, in that particular case. Now, yes, if that technicality is discovered later on (as with Modern day DNA analysis), then it's the State that needs to compensate the (now) victim for that loss.

The possibility of incarceration also serves as a deterrent against people committing crimes in the first place, so the more heinous crimes have much longer punishments not only to remove the worst threats from society longer, but to deter that behavior in the first place.

Must disagree here. If History has taught us anything, it has taught us that nothing will deter someone who is intent on committing a crime. I mean truly intent. You might deter the "riff/raff" that wasn't all that intent on committing the crime. But not anyone who is totally dedicated. Even the punishment of Death won't deter people who feel they want/need to murder someone. Witness all the shooters at schools, public places etc. that take their own lives after they're done.

There isn't anything that we can do to this person that will make the Kirk family feel made whole.

No, but we can make sure that person pays the appropriate price for what they did do, regardless of how it affects the victim's family or society in general. Again, are there crimes/circumstances that merit the "forfeiture of life?" We must all decide that for ourselves.

My answer is "yes." And for 27 of our states, the answer is also, "yes."
 
This was a Professional hit, perp wore long sleeves to avoid leaving DNA, Cap and glasses to avoid facial recognition. He made sure he didn't touch the hand rails on the way up, used an untraceable old 30-06, moved with purpose to a position that had a narrow window for the shot that had obviously been previously scouted out.

Fired a single round into the Jugular from under 140yds, packed up exited quickly without fanfare. Calmy leapt down from around 9ft with cat like reflexes.

Calmly left the scene and walked downtown discarding the old 30-06 in the forest.

Tell me this he doesn't have Police or military training because all his action show a professional hit.........
Nope. Not in the least. Just another young, crackpot kid. With a head packed full of shit, who ended up getting turned in by his daddy.
 
Bwaaahh need a tissue baby, he was a racist hate filled

I think the world is a better place with one less White Supremacist, kinda ironic too that a born and bred Republican was the one who took out the trash, stick that in ya pipe and smoke it Django !
How rude of me........I forgot to mention that you are a coward as well.
 
Nope. Not in the least. Just another young, crackpot kid. With a head packed full of shit, who ended up getting turned in by his daddy.

And, from the reports I've seen, it wasn't a "direct"shot to the neck. Apparently, the bullet ricocheted off the top of his body armor and penetrated his neck, tearing his carotid artery. I saw a bit of the video. The blood was gushing/pulsating out. That doesn't happen if it's the jugular vein.
 
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Anyone know if Old Testament bibles are still available new in print? I'm not an atheist but I don't own a bible, and I'm thinking I might pick one up- just don't want any 'woke' version.

I wonder what bible the Greek Orthodox use?

I want something heavy, thick leather covers, large print format offers lots of pages- that way it could double as a weapon in case I need to beat a tied up foreign enemy with it. :ROFLMAO:
I did the entire NASB on audiobook which was an incredible experience. I started asking questions for a deeper understanding.... I went to the Museum of The Bible in Washington DC and saw all the current versions of the Bible and had more questions.

I have an original Geneva 1560 (purchases from London, printed in 1613, definitely not impact weapon rated), current Geneva 1599, New American Standard Bible (NASB, 2002 ed.), and current print Orthodox Study Bible (NKJV language translation, 2008).

After comparing all to my original print 1560 Geneva I'd highly, highly suggest either the 1599 Geneva and/or Orthodox Study bible for their extensive annotations giving incredible context and historical background. Gives a much, much better understanding. An edge towards the Orthodox Bible due to the fact they have 20% more books in theor Old Testament. In my 1560 Geneva it has "the Apocrypha" which are basically the 20% extra Old Testament books found in the Orthodox Bible. Im a fan of the more information, the better.

Current print 1599 Geneva found here:


Orthodox Study Bible, 2008 available everywhere. This is what you want to look for (hard cover, many pages, impact weapon approved):

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Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have mpre specific questions.
 
Happy to call out delusional fools like you, bring some sort of decent argument and u might get some respect
"Respect" from someone that applauds the cold blooded murder of another human being ?

No thank you. The last thing I care about is "respect" from scum like you.
 
Interesting that you should mention that.

The Ukrobots SNB and NKK were very fond of sneering at the members of this forum for being “senile incontinent boomers.”

As a matter of fact, one of the earliest posters on this thread is also a very prolific Ukrobot and was quick to dive in to show his alignment with us “conservatives” despite being so far removed from our domestic politics.

Kind of like a nouveau immigrant who wears an oversized cowboy hat and attaches Longhorn cattle horns to his civic as a surrogate pledge of allegiance.

Nice try, but lots seems lost in translation.



You’re right, the proper word is leery.

The pool looks very attractive and compelling to our base ideology, and thusly it’s easy to just dive in.

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I think wary is the right word - cautious, rather than weary - tired.

Mostly, fuck that guy who shot CK, and anyone who supports him.
 
"Respect" from someone that applauds the cold blooded murder of another human being ?

No thank you. The last thing I care about is "respect" from scum like you.
No where have I applauded the cold blooded murder, you cant even argue the point that a White Supremacist was executed by a White Nationalist, maybe turn the lights off in ya mums basement and get you trans doll out.
 

I just ordered this one. It arrives tomorrow. Much larger print. I still have my childhood KJV Bible my mother bought me for my confirmation. But the print is just a little too hard for me to read at this point.

Received, yesterday. It's really nice. Roughly 7" x 10" and the print is much larger. The "red" lettering is a bit subdued (not as bright as my childhood Bible), but it's there. It has two red ribbon place markers in it. The pages are classically thin (as is my childhood Bible), but to be expected.

In its pristine condition, I"m considering buying some white gloves with which to read it. :)
 
And, from the reports I've seen, it wasn't a "direct"shot to the neck. Apparently, the bullet ricocheted off the top of his body armor and penetrated his neck, tearing his carotid artery. I saw a bit of the video. The blood was gushing/pulsating out. That doesn't happen if it's the jugular vein.
He wasn't wearing any body armor. If he had been you would have seen it protruding parts of his white tee shirt.
 
Then something caused the bullet to ricochet and deflect up to the neck.
There was no "ricochet". If you watch the unedited close up videos, you can clearly see it was a direct shot to the neck. I honestly don't understand where all of these nonsense comments are coming from?

Watch from 3:30 to 4:00 in this video. It shows this with clarity. Over and over.

 
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Remember, Gentlemen, the globo-homo Spectre totally-not-synagogue-of-satan octopus uses leftist violence like a potentiometer knob of 1 to 10. 1 being a faggotry protest, 10 being a Bolshevic Revolution, or similar. I believe they 100% want "the right" to pop off because they believe they can control "the right" like that same 1-10 knob. They are pompous and insufferable enough of believe so as their actions show.

I believe "the right" is likely to be more like an "Off-On" switch. History has shown that time and time again. Every 5-6 generations (125-150-ish years) this same wheel turns and shows the ugly side. America, being so young, is only beginning to experience this particular cycle the first time. The last time we saw this cycle rear its ugly head was between about 1914 and 1930 in central Europe. The conditions are set. We had our soft communist revolution in America between 9/11/2001 and Barry/The Kenyan/The Marxist. Weimar began then, and now people are waking up to the issue, The Question.
 
There is an underlying tone of finality and hopelessness in the way I read your words. I'm probably putting the wrong context into translating your thoughts. Just to be clear, I agree with you that there are MANY that will submit due to fear, laziness, complacency or an easily won evil heart.

I just want to make sure that we maintain faith that the fight is winnable in spite of the well prepared evil that is being unleashed. Out of all the masses, only a few will stand firm in their beliefs but those few need to have that faith intact in order to stand at all.

We train our hands and minds to act a certain way in a gun fight. No training = no way of executing a positive outcome.
Everyone will have to train heart and minds to act a certain way in a spiritual fight. No training = no way of avoiding an eternal hell.

Realizing you have an enemy and that they are already in motion is half of the battle. Hopefully Charlie opened those innocent eyes to the harshness of those hunting their souls. If they now see the threat, they can prepare for the battle.

Not so much hopelessness, rather, having read and studied the Revelation of John, and through the Bible and psychology, the nature of man, I feel I have a pretty good insight as to whats coming, regardless of our highest aspirations and prayers. We may maintain our faith, I wrestle with that daily and often lose, and stand, but as I read and interpret it, this 'world' must pass, its passing wont be pretty, and the time draws near. I dont profess to know when, but it feels closer every day. Thats the reflection of 50+ years of study and equally,mediitation on the Word. If nothing else, with a couple idiotic exceptions, I've seen this place, the Hide, draw together. We may all have different opinions and interpretations, but we all honor the same Lord.

Be well, brother.

This always puts a little tear in my eye.


The battle is already won. Some of us just don't know our role in it yet. I think Charlie knew what his role was and he executed it well. And now his fight is over. RIP Charlie.

From Stonewall Jackson -

"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it overtakes me. This is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave."
 
Well, then there it is. I guess the prosecutor will have to decide if the demands of the public outweigh the requests of the family. I get why they may not want it. And why they might think that "Life without Parole" is a better punishment in re: the defendant themselves. That person would, then, have to live with what they've done for the rest of their lives. This, as opposed to a quick exit where he no longer suffers but his survivors do.

My instinct is that if the crime merits the "forfeiture of life," then it does. And, in Charlie's case, I think it absolutely does.
The death penalty drags on for years and years with appeals and sometimes they are granted a new trial by a liberal judge that thinks something was amiss in any part of the process. If they offer life without parole vs the death penalty and he accepts it. The family can move on and not endure years of a horrific time being drug up.
 
There was no "ricochet". If you watch the unedited close up videos, you can clearly see it was a direct shot to the neck. I honestly don't understand where all of these nonsense comments are coming from?

Watch from 3:30 to 4:00 in this video. It shows this with clarity. Over and over.



Can't watch it as it requires me to log into Youtube to see it.

If there was no ricochet, then some people in the fake news have it wrong.
 
The death penalty drags on for years and years with appeals and sometimes they are granted a new trial by a liberal judge that thinks something was amiss in any part of the process. If they offer life without parole vs the death penalty and he accepts it. The family can move on and not endure years of a horrific time being drug up.

But do they, in fact, "move on?" A great number of victim's survivors have stated that without that specific measure of justice (i.e. the condemned being executed), they do not feel they have "closure." We can argue about how many could move on and how any could not, but my point is that there are enough that want that closure to make it significant.

Witness this family -

 
Weary or leery?

Regardless, I get what you’re saying and concur. It’s easy to jump on a bandwagon when it aligns with your inner compass…moreso when it’s a popular position I suppose.

I think the reason you’ll get so much pushback here is that this hits home pretty hard for a lot of folks in this community. We’re all hurting because it wasn’t just Charlie Kirk who was killed, it also snuffed out a lot of the hope we all have (had?) for a brighter future for our kids and grandkids.

Every time we seem to begin turning this ship around and away from the cliff, something like this happens and we lose a little bit of our faith in humanity. I know I do, and have to actively work to keep from getting angry and morose.

Or maybe I’m just drunk and high on the pain pills I’m taking for my fucked up knee! LoL
Thank you for this reply.

-Stan
 
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I did the entire NASB on audiobook which was an incredible experience. I started asking questions for a deeper understanding.... I went to the Museum of The Bible in Washington DC and saw all the current versions of the Bible and had more questions.

I have an original Geneva 1560 (purchases from London, printed in 1613, definitely not impact weapon rated), current Geneva 1599, New American Standard Bible (NASB, 2002 ed.), and current print Orthodox Study Bible (NKJV language translation, 2008).

After comparing all to my original print 1560 Geneva I'd highly, highly suggest either the 1599 Geneva and/or Orthodox Study bible for their extensive annotations giving incredible context and historical background. Gives a much, much better understanding. An edge towards the Orthodox Bible due to the fact they have 20% more books in theor Old Testament. In my 1560 Geneva it has "the Apocrypha" which are basically the 20% extra Old Testament books found in the Orthodox Bible. Im a fan of the more information, the better.

Current print 1599 Geneva found here:


Orthodox Study Bible, 2008 available everywhere. This is what you want to look for (hard cover, many pages, impact weapon approved):

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Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have mpre specific questions.

You should be careful about asking honest questions, thinking critically, and reading so much pre-politicized Era truth.



Side effects may include:

Not wanting to go to war for Israel.

Demanding your politicians stop sending you to die based on their end times beliefs.

Demanding the removal of communists and perverts from your country.

Asking why we have supported the Muslim and WEF governments instead of traditional Christian ones for the last 40 years.

Demanding people be treated according to character instead of being given a pass because of skin color.

Realizing that since the left wants to shoot those who engage in polite debate, and celebrate their deaths, it is obvious they don't want such and it would be horrible to force people to do what they don't want to do. Finding their terms acceptable and acting accordingly.

Developing higher testosterone and getting strong.

Being willing to fight as a Christian for your existence, heritage, and family instead of "turning the other cheek" on your knees as a cucked Christian as you are shot by the demonic mobs while they chop your son's penis off and call him a girl.


Such side effects are common and usually incurable.
 
One of the guys who works for me brought his family to a pig roast I did last Friday.

His daughter is second grade… maybe 8 or so?

And a rabid vegan and “friend of all animals” who had a look of horror on her face at meat. Wouldn’t eat anything. Ended up eating grapes from my vines.

Parents said “we’re hoping she’ll
Grow out of it?”

Grow Out of it??? They should be suing the school for every penny the district has. First
Because at that age she needs protein and nutrition. Which I assume her mom who is a PA (PhD nurse) is handling. And if they have her this fucked up at school at this age…. It will only get worse.

These kids are getting brainwashed from kindergarten. And it is appalling. Any school employee pushing this sort of shit should be removed from kids and put on the equivalent of a pedo list and banned from any contact with youth.

This is how they are destroying the nuclear family.

Sirhr
When my girls were very young sometimes after eating they were feeling ill. We didn't notice it all the time so when it happened we tried to figure out what was causing it. The children automatically figured it out possibly from natural survival. They stopped eating certain foods. We eat venison and beef from my herd but occasionally bought beef from a local grocery store. So it took time to narrow down that it was the pork and beef that was store bought that was causing the issues. We started crossing the additives that are added to both products to narrow it down further but decided that it was a waste of time and just eliminated store bought meat all together.
My guess is that these people are not really paying attention to what is happening to the child. The child is following natural instincts for survival.