This thread is so full of absolutes I've changed eye dominance . Almost any bullet manufactured since the introduction of smokeless powder will knock over a deer when applied properly to one or more vital organs. Shooting bullets into flesh is like skipping rocks on rough water, the only thing you can guarantee is you will NEVER get the exact same result twice. Why do some assume that a bullet will? every single impact has micro differences, angles, temp changes, flexed muscles, relaxed muscles, bones, hair, leaves, sticks, ticks, ducks and geese. If you have never lost an animal or missed a kill, its simply a matter of time until you do, because shit happens, and bullets sometimes do inexplicable things. It is therefore, a marksman's only choice to do his absolute best in placing the bullet as close as possible to a critical life sustaining tissue. Any and every bullet mentioned in this thread will fit that bill. These threads are always tapered at both ends, and they float or sink depending on the absolutism of its post's. If everybody would just shoot a bullet that they are accurate and comfortable with, and be responsible enough to be proficient, there would be no need for these corn laden, bowl streaking turd threads strewn down the SH bathroom hallway.