I likely have the same trust (you had to remove a sentence?) as you, twice now had to email amendment (have 3 others) but was approved 1 week after they got the amendment - twice now.
Suppressors Form 4 wait time
I likely have the same trust (you had to remove a sentence?) as you, twice now had to email amendment (have 3 others) but was approved 1 week after they got the amendment - twice now.
Had an amendment issue ... took 1 week to send dealer letter (didnt have email), and 1 week for them to get the amendment via usps, stamp received 4/1/2018, approved 3/15/2018 ... so right on 12 months ....
Waiting on the fbi for me she said received on 10/23
Check cashed 7-22-17. Trust
Picked up dead air mask .22 yesterday
Picked up dead air mask .22 yesterday
Called yesterday for the first time.
Had to make a correction to the form 4 10 or so days ago so figured I would call with the excuse of making sure the corrections came back ok.
3 suppressor on SiCo Easy Trust for 2 RPs
Submitted 10/18/17
Check Cashed 10/26/17
Approved all 3 on 5/5/18
Now like Frank the wait for the stamps begins. But atleast I am this far now.
Just an update, tax stamps came in on 5/11. Picked them up and already have some rounds through the suppressors now.
Thunderbeast 22 takedown check cashed 10/11/17 stamp at ffl 5/7/18
4 Form 4 individual via SiCo kiosk,
“Cashed check” 10/21/2017
Approved 4/24/2018
“Cashed check” 10/21/2017
Approved 4/24/2018
2 person trust here, took 10 months for the first Lane Scorpion Magnum 30 and 8 months for the Scorpion 30. Just got the latter a month ago.
Whoa, that is a lot faster turn around than what most people have posted. Thats promising.
Keep in mind it's individual, not trust. That's pretty much in line with what most people are posting about individual form 4s. They got faster than trusts.
Had 6 sets all go in the same time from a SiCo kiosk. All 6 checks cashed 11/17/17, all six forms approved 5/16/18. Just waiting on the mailman now
I did 2 at the same time through the silencershop kiosk with the checks being cashed on 11/19/17 so hopefully mine are close (if not approved already, i had called last week and they were "pending").
The "About Fucking Time-#lazypieceofshitgovernmentwhythefuckdoesittake38daystoputaletterinthemailipaid$200for" post:
AAC 762 SDN6
Submitted: 8/14/17
Cashed: 8/16/17
Approved: 4/9/18
Cert Letter Requested: 5/10/18
Stamp Received by Dealer: 5/24/18
Total wait (cashed to stamp at dealer): 281 days
AAC 762 SDN6
Submitted: 8/14/17
Cashed: 8/16/17
Approved: 4/9/18
Cert Letter Requested: 5/10/18
Stamp Received by Dealer: 5/24/18
Total wait (cashed to stamp at dealer): 281 days
Form 4 trust for suppressor
Checked cashed Nov 17 2017
Approved may 21 2018
Picked up May 25 2018
Checked cashed Nov 17 2017
Approved may 21 2018
Picked up May 25 2018
Dead Air Wolf 9sd
Individual Form 4 Submitted 10/16/17
Check cashed 11/17/17
BATF received 11/20/17
Arrived at dealer 12/1?/17
Tested out 12/21/17
Still pending 4/13/18
Approved 5/21/18
Still waiting on stamp. Maybe today?
Edit: not today. Maybe Monday.
Individual Form 4 Submitted 10/16/17
Check cashed 11/17/17
BATF received 11/20/17
Arrived at dealer 12/1?/17
Tested out 12/21/17
Still pending 4/13/18
Approved 5/21/18
Still waiting on stamp. Maybe today?
Edit: not today. Maybe Monday.
No mail Monday! Hopefully Tuesday!
No mail Monday! Hopefully Tuesday!
Damn. Forgot.
Form 4 trust via kiosk
10/23 check received
Called once and they said fbi and tried 25 days later today and said in process
Looks like I’m not getting a fast approval his time
10/23 check received
Called once and they said fbi and tried 25 days later today and said in process
Looks like I’m not getting a fast approval his time
Now its time for mine
Single Shot Trust Form 4
Check Cashed 10/7/17
Approved 4/17/18
Stamp Received 5/31/18
44 days from approval to stamp at my dealer...
Why we trust individuals who cannot muster up enough effort to put a letter in outgoing mail box, with the security of ATF-regulated items is beyond me.
CGS Hydra, form 4 individual.
Check cashed June 1 2018
Check cashed June 1 2018
Finally. Just got the call. Yes, that does read March 29th, 2017. Hair over 14 months.
Form 4 trust. (NFA lawyers trust with amendment removing trustees leaving myself as originator. Noted this just in case that causes delays.)
Mailed 03/29/2017
Check cashed 04/13/2017
Approval: 05/08/2018
Received: 06/04/2018
edit* added approval date. 4 weeks to get the stamp to my FFL after approval.
Form 4 trust. (NFA lawyers trust with amendment removing trustees leaving myself as originator. Noted this just in case that causes delays.)
Mailed 03/29/2017
Check cashed 04/13/2017
Approval: 05/08/2018
Received: 06/04/2018
edit* added approval date. 4 weeks to get the stamp to my FFL after approval.
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2 person trust form 4 suppressor
Sept 9ish 2017 purchace
Approval May 24 2018
Stamp at Dealer June 6 2018
Sept 9ish 2017 purchace
Approval May 24 2018
Stamp at Dealer June 6 2018
Rifle Dynamics SLR104UR
Check cashed 11/3/2017
Approved 5/10/2018
Check cashed 11/3/2017
Approved 5/10/2018
My paperwork reached the ATF 08/07/2017. I had to amend my Form 4 due to an error on my part. So, I corrected my error & then the ATF said that they didn’t have an RPQ on file. My SOT dealer & I sent the RPQ back two more times. I called the ATF & the approving official said that he never received anything from me or my dealer. Finally, the ATF calls me back & says “Found it!” So, an extra 4-5 weeks later & I picked up my can 06/01/2017. It was still less than the 10 - 12 months I was initially quoted.
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Form 4 trust (2 people) for Rugged Surge 762. Purchased from SilencerShop.
Purchased: 06/15/2017
Submitted: 06/20/2017
Cashed: 07/22/2017
Approved: 06/09/2018
322 days from check cashing to approval.
Stamp arrived at dealer on 06/22/2018.
Purchased: 06/15/2017
Submitted: 06/20/2017
Cashed: 07/22/2017
Approved: 06/09/2018
322 days from check cashing to approval.
Stamp arrived at dealer on 06/22/2018.
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Dead Air Sandman S
Form 4 Trust, 1 RP
Ordered - 11/20/2017
Arrived At Dealer - 11/30/2017
Form 4/RPQs Mailed - 12/2/2017
ATF Received Forms - 12/7/2017
Check Cashed - 12/8/2017
Form 4 Approved - 6/13/2018
Stamp At Dealer - 6/19/18
Picked Up - 6/20/18
187 Days from Check Cashed to Approved
Form 4 Trust, 1 RP
Ordered - 11/20/2017
Arrived At Dealer - 11/30/2017
Form 4/RPQs Mailed - 12/2/2017
ATF Received Forms - 12/7/2017
Check Cashed - 12/8/2017
Form 4 Approved - 6/13/2018
Stamp At Dealer - 6/19/18
Picked Up - 6/20/18
187 Days from Check Cashed to Approved
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Last one we saw the check cleared 12/12. We got the customer's form in our hand on 6/15. We have a kiosk and encourage everyone to do the Single Shot Trust. It seems like our people, on average, are getting their approvals faster than most.
One small bit of info: realized the ATF Check Cashed date is more important than when you bought it. Many people assume the purchase date, or even the date on the form 4, is what matters. In many cases Silencer Shop doesn't mail the form the day you sign it. Sometimes it seems like it's almost a month from the time we order until the time the check is cashed with much of that being the delay for SShop to review and send. The Check Date is basically like proof of delivery and that starts the clock. In fact, the ATF (per my discussion yesterday) won't even see the form 4 in their system for almost 2 months after they get the payment. We're waiting on two machine gun transfers (we bought from a customer) and while the check cleared mid May, they don't see the form yet.
Another behind the scenes piece of advice: if you have a dealer you like, have them do the purchase for you from SShop. It is transparent to you, but it's better for your dealer in many cases. The first 15 we did this year we did from our in house computer but logged on to their site to purchase. SShop told us they assumed they generated the sales. Lesson learned. Our customers would have actually paid a bit less in our store (lower sales tax) and we would have been treated more favorably by Silencer Shop on the fees they charge us to do paperwork. So, if you have a relationship with your dealer, help them out and buy from them (unless they don't care either way). We also give cash discounts and you cannot pay cash online so discuss that with your dealer too.
One small bit of info: realized the ATF Check Cashed date is more important than when you bought it. Many people assume the purchase date, or even the date on the form 4, is what matters. In many cases Silencer Shop doesn't mail the form the day you sign it. Sometimes it seems like it's almost a month from the time we order until the time the check is cashed with much of that being the delay for SShop to review and send. The Check Date is basically like proof of delivery and that starts the clock. In fact, the ATF (per my discussion yesterday) won't even see the form 4 in their system for almost 2 months after they get the payment. We're waiting on two machine gun transfers (we bought from a customer) and while the check cleared mid May, they don't see the form yet.
Another behind the scenes piece of advice: if you have a dealer you like, have them do the purchase for you from SShop. It is transparent to you, but it's better for your dealer in many cases. The first 15 we did this year we did from our in house computer but logged on to their site to purchase. SShop told us they assumed they generated the sales. Lesson learned. Our customers would have actually paid a bit less in our store (lower sales tax) and we would have been treated more favorably by Silencer Shop on the fees they charge us to do paperwork. So, if you have a relationship with your dealer, help them out and buy from them (unless they don't care either way). We also give cash discounts and you cannot pay cash online so discuss that with your dealer too.
I've had a few corrections and the ATF has been exceptionally helpful. In many cases I've been able to email the corrections to them. If you have an issue like that again, ask your dealer if he can resolve it by email. Most of my corrections result in stamps about two weeks later. In one case, I had to educate the ATF on Texas Law and "change of registered agent" from 15 years ago..and that they didn't need an RPQ. No biggie. Just emailed a letter to them explaining it. In a few cases, Silencer Shop (using the Powered By feature) messed something up (trust titles, serial numbers, etc) but they, too, were quick to respond and fix the issue. Stamps usually arrived 2-4 weeks later. The ironic good news is that if you're getting calls on errors, that means you're up! The wait is almost over! If it takes 6 months to get a stamp, 5 months is just the waiting in line to have your name called.
One funny story was when a guy had three people on the trust but only his RPQ. ATF said "need two more RPQs". Silencer Shop should have caught the extra people in my opinion. But he send some kind of amendment that basically said "This amendment removes all the trustees except me until the current application is approved at which time this amendment is void and the trust reverts to the original form." Clever. The ATF wasn't amused. THe agent said, "we've seen that before and, well, that's not going to work." But then she advised, "Just have him take the people off formally and then he can add them back on later. That's the better way to do it." So they're actually trying to be helpful. He resubmitted it...and we had his stamp shortly thereafter.
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a friend and his stepdad bought Lane Scorpion suppressors on 11/27/17; on Form 4 Trust (with 3 RP's) and e-filed; stamp approved on 6/18/18. So just short of 7 months. I filed paperwork for my suppressor 2 weeks later, so hopefully my stamp arrives soon, too.
Pretty quick: Ordered 11/30; Form 4 signed (Single Shot trust; Powered By/Silencer Shop) 12/4; check cashed 12/12; approved Jun 19; postmarked Jun 21; received today 6/25. Times seem to be slowly coming down.
I've heard that as ATF sees more barcoded forms the times will continue to come down. We do all our deals using our Silencer Shop backoffice so all ours are barcoded. I think as more people use the barcoding (which you can do even outside of Silencer Shop), it'll expedite the process for everyone.
I've heard that as ATF sees more barcoded forms the times will continue to come down. We do all our deals using our Silencer Shop backoffice so all ours are barcoded. I think as more people use the barcoding (which you can do even outside of Silencer Shop), it'll expedite the process for everyone.
Mine is still waiting on background check
Cashed 10/23/17
Form 4 trust with ss kiosk
Sucks to be me
Cashed 10/23/17
Form 4 trust with ss kiosk
Sucks to be me
WELL.............we ( our store ) just got a stamp back Saturday from MARCH 17, 2017 !!!!!!! On an Individual !! I had to check it several times to make sure it was actually processed on March 17, 2017. It was.
WTF is up with that ( no corrections, no questions, nothing ) ?? Never have seen an individual go that long.
Now I can't get a hold of the customer. Phone # has changed. Dang !!
WTF is up with that ( no corrections, no questions, nothing ) ?? Never have seen an individual go that long.
Now I can't get a hold of the customer. Phone # has changed. Dang !!
I'm still waiting for one from about the same time. Individual.
My check was cashed 12/14 and I got the call yesterday! My stamp is in! Family Trust.
Check was cashed mid October and just got news a few days ago that I have to correct the form. So I did that and now hopefully it'll be here within a month.
Salvo12
F4 on Trust w/ 1 RP
Sent in 9/5/17
Check cashed 9/11/17
Approved 6/18/18
Got the call 6/26/18
F4 on Trust w/ 1 RP
Sent in 9/5/17
Check cashed 9/11/17
Approved 6/18/18
Got the call 6/26/18
I got a pleasant surprise yesterday. My trust form 4 for an Ultra 7 that I mailed in 12/11/17 was approved yesterday. So about 6.5 months.
So... if I have mine by thanksgiving we will be doing good... check cashed 5/20
I have 3 individual form 4's pending (2 cashed on 11/19/17 and 1 cashed on 12/11/17). So i'm at 228 days and 206 days and still waiting as of today. I'm seeing tons of approvals from nov and even dec but i'm still in limbo.
Same here, check was cashed 11/17/17. No word yet.
Yankee Hill Phantom QD 5.56, form 4 individual
check cashed January 8, 2018
picked up can and tax stamp today
almost exactly 6 months WOOHOO!!!!!!
check cashed January 8, 2018
picked up can and tax stamp today
almost exactly 6 months WOOHOO!!!!!!
300 SPS - individual
check cashed - 12/27/17
approved - 6/22/18
stamp at dealer - 7/11/18
check cashed - 12/27/17
approved - 6/22/18
stamp at dealer - 7/11/18
January 16 check cashed. Dealer was notified of issue with my form 4 today. Apparently my form was duplicated and there were 2. I promise I did not duplicate my $200 check so it was definitely a mistake on their end.
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