WE, THE (MOST PROPAGANDIZED) PEOPLE

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Just some bros casually talking of how we’ve been led on all this time, mostly low - hanging fruit, just common - knowledge stuff.

Highly unlikely, knowing Carlson’s biases - but it’d be interesting if he’d do a deep dive on Chyyyyyynaaaaaa.

Doubtful it'll be objective, but it should be fun.

Imagine - twenty years from now, they’ll probably be saying the exact same thing about said country.

Like, “…damn, we were suckers.”
 
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I doubt you'd get a real deep dive on China.



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Are those even Chinese kids?

JUST

HOW

DUMB

ARE

YOU?

Or did you just slap in some generic Asian - looking kids for theatrical effect?

That’s a South Korean flag in the background, and a strange white woman directing them in the foreground.

Looks something like an Elementary School “South Korea / Israel Friendship Day” program.

The South Koreans and Japanese openly (begrudgingly) acknowledge they’re presently “occupied countries.”

EDIT: Perhaps this?

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South Korean Christianity borrows heavily from our own white trash evangelical “churches,” so they have similar Christian Zionist values.
 
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Posted these elsewhere before - two years after the great fantasy quest for the “Weapons of Mass Destruction,” we Americans still thought of Iraq (along with North Korea) as the greatest enemy.

Worse, we just laughed about it.

Just like Dubya did, up there.

WE HAVEN'T LEARNED.

OF COURSE THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM.
 
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Neverending hordes of primitive, nameless, faceless [INSERT CHOICE OF GENERIC ASIAN HERE] charging en masse.

Case in point, Post #3.


Kinda makes me think of what happened to Vincent Chin.

Either it didn’t matter what he was, or they were too dumb to tell the difference.

After all, he was just one of theses masses of people stripped of characteristics defining them as individuals, with lives having no value.
 
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IRGC/Iran has been at war with the US since 1979, to include kidnappings, the embassy hostage crisis, terrorist bombings taking the lives of hundreds of American civilians and soldiers.

China literally declared a people’s war against the US.

If you want to see more propagandized people, go live in another country and watch their silly state media.

Yes, US legacy media is retarded, click-bait/sensationalist/yellow journalism filled with Soviet Mockingbird co-opted channels, which we should tune out from, not continue to give mention like quasi-legacy journalists who have now pivoted to their own channels are doing.

We need better information, but it isn’t going to come from Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, or Cuomo. This is all an obvious pivot by has-beens trying to stay relevant.
 
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Suuure, bimbo.

After we shat all over their country.

Thinking that the Muslim world woke up one morning and decided out of the blue to chant “America is gay” is a propagandist fairytale.
 
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IRGC/Iran has been at war with the US since 1979, to include kidnappings, the embassy hostage crisis, terrorist bombings taking the lives of hundreds of American civilians and soldiers.

China literally declared a people’s war against the US.

If you want to see more propagandized people, go live in another country and watch their silly state media.

Yes, US legacy media is retarded, click-bait/sensationalist/yellow journalism filled with Soviet Mockingbird co-opted channels, which we should tune out from, not continue to give mention like quasi-legacy journalists who have now pivoted to their own channels are doing.

We need better information, but it isn’t going to come from Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, or Cuomo. This is all an obvious pivot by has-beens trying to stay relevant.

At least those people realize they are being propagandized.

Most Americans don't.
 
IRGC/Iran has been at war with the US since 1979, to include kidnappings, the embassy hostage crisis, terrorist bombings taking the lives of hundreds of American civilians and soldiers.

China literally declared a people’s war against the US.

And why do you think that is, Sherlock?

These are countries that the beloved Anglosphere has trampled on is in the process of trampling upon, yes?

That certainly sounds like G7 propaganda - it may have been trendy in the late 80s to early 90s, but has since gotten a little long in the tooth.

Only a fool would consider personalities such as Carlson a source of serious information.

But in fairness to your statement, there are numerous flies who flock to high - traffic threads full of manure thinking their inane Twitter posts are of any substance.

I have yet to see a greater example of irony - with all this coming from someone whining about the Russians having come knocking at Ukraine’s door.
 
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Adrian Zenz, the “Xinjiang Expert” from whom all the genocide allegations have been spun from - is apparently a real - deal anti - Semitic bible - thumping religious extremist of the worst kind…

Either tweaked data egregiously or made things up outright.

While one may not necessarily agree with the views from The Grayzone, many of Zenz’ articles are easily downloadable from various online sources, and examining his data and methodology easily corroborates his extensive use of “Poetic License.”

Zenz first started publishing articles on Xinjiang in May 2018 ("New Evidence for China's Political Re-Education Campaign in Xinjiang") - part of the China Brief from the Jamestown Foundation. See
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A thousand pardons for the Twitter post :ROFLMAO:

Yeh, thet shore be Wheeghur writin' ther!

Remember, America cares soooooo muuuch about Muslims!

We looove the Islamic world!
 
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Well the heading is 100% truthful, and the video is spot on. Wave the flag no matter the reason or logic and none thinkers line up naked to support anything.
Present the truth w/facts, or ask the hard questions & the expert gets the deer in the headlight look, and they still won't think for their selves. Yet they still wonder why things are like they are,..
 
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Evil Soviets: MURDER
Heroic Americans: Very Unfortunate Accident

Note the difference in optics.

That’s some high - profile grift there, no less than Kissinger himself.
 
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Not sure you could get any more liars, in that time frame. This rock is doomed, and we will be very, very lucky to see another Christmas

The more frequently buzzwords or catch phrases are repeated ad nauseum, the more likely we're being lied to...

Now, think about the stuff you're being told about China and the Middle East.
 
The more frequently buzzwords or catch phrases are repeated ad nauseum, the more likely we're being lied to...

Now, think about the stuff you're being told about China and the Middle East.
Hell, I still remember the shit they were pushing about V/N & the Congo, over & over,...
 
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Headlines and Front Lines: How US News Coverage of Wars in Yemen and Ukraine Reveals Bias in Recording Civilian Harm​

By Jeff Bachman and Esther Brito Ruiz | August 3, 2023

Newspapers with headlines about Russian invasion of Ukraine


War entails suffering. How and how often that suffering is reported on in the U.S., however, is not evenhanded.

Take, for example, the Saudi-led intervention in Yemen in March 2015 and the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. The media attention afforded to the crises reveals biases that relate less to the human consequences of the conflicts than to the United States’ role and relationship with the warring parties involved.

In Yemen, the U.S. is arming and supporting the Saudi-led coalition, whose airstrikes and blockades have caused immense human suffering. Meanwhile in Eastern Europe, the U.S. is arming and aiding Ukraine’s efforts by helping to counter missile strikes that have targeted civilian infrastructure and to retake occupied territories where horrific killings have taken place.

As scholars who study genocide and other mass atrocities, as well as international security, we compared New York Times headlines that span approximately seven and a half years of the ongoing conflict in Yemen and the first nine months of the conflict in Ukraine.

We paid particular attention to headlines on civilian casualties, food security and provision of arms. We chose The New York Times because of its popularityand reputation as a credible and influential source on international news, with an extensive network of global reporters and over 130 Pulitzer Prizes.

Purposefully, our analysis focused solely on headlines. While the full stories may bring greater context to the reporting, headlines are particularly important for three reasons: They frame the story in a way that affects how it is read and remembered; reflect the publication’s ideological stance on an issue; and, for many news consumers, are the only part of the story that is read at all.

Our research shows extensive biases in both the scale and tone of coverage. These biases lead to reporting that highlights or downplays human suffering in the two conflicts in a way that seemingly coincides with U.S. foreign policy objectives.

Ukraine in spotlight​

War in Ukraine is clearly seen as more newsworthy to U.S. readers. This double standard may have less to do with the actual events than that the victims are white and “relatively European,” as one CBS News correspondent put it.

Our broad search of New York Times headlines concerning the overall civilian impact of the two conflicts yielded 546 stories on Yemen between March 26, 2015, and Nov. 30, 2022. Headlines on Ukraine passed that mark in under three months and then doubled it within nine months.

Front-page stories on Ukraine have been commonplace ever since the Russian invasion began in February 2022. In comparison, front-page stories on Yemen have been rare and, in some cases, as with coverage on food security in the country, came more than three years after the coalition initiated blockades that led to the crisis.

The first front-page article with explicit focus on the hunger crisis was published on June 14, 2018, with the headline “Saudi-Led Attack Deepens the World’s Worst Humanitarian Crisis.” By this point, 14 million Yemenis were already facing “catastrophic food insecurity,” according to the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights.

More context on Ukraine​

When we analyzed headlines on Yemen and Ukraine, we classified them as either “episodic,” meaning focused on specific events, or “thematic,” meaning more contextual. An example of an episodic headline is “Apparent Saudi Strike Kills at Least Nine in Yemeni Family.” An example of a thematic headline is “Ferocious Russian Attacks Spur Accusations of Genocide in Ukraine.”

New York Times headlines on Yemen were mostly focused on events, accounting for 64% of all headlines. In contrast, headlines on Ukraine involved a greater emphasis on context, accounting for 73% of total articles. The reason this is important is that by focusing more on either episodic or contextualized stories, newspapers are able to lead readers to different interpretations.

The largely episodic headlines on Yemen may give the impression that the harm reported is incidental, rather than symptomatic of the coalition’s violence. Meanwhile, contextual articles on Ukraine trace the broader implications of the conflict and reflect stories of continual Russian responsibility and accountability.

Differences in assigning blame​

Accountability in coverage is also vastly different. We found 50 headlines on Yemen that reported on specific attacks carried out by the Saudi-led coalition. Of them, 18 – just 36% – attributed responsibility to Saudi Arabia or the coalition. An egregious example that omits responsibility is this headline from April 24, 2018: “Yemen Strike Hits Wedding and Kills More Than 20.” A reader could easily interpret that as meaning that Yemen rebels were behind the attack rather than the Saudis – as was the case.

It is hard to imagine a Russian strike on a wedding in Ukraine headlined as “Ukraine Strike Hits Wedding and Kills More Than 20.”

Over the period we looked at, there were 54 headlines on specific attacks in Ukraine – 50 of which reported on Russian attacks, with the remaining four reporting on Ukrainian attacks. Here, of the 50 headlines about Russian attacks, 44 of them – or 88% – explicitly attributed responsibility to Russia. Meanwhile, none of the four headlines on Ukrainian attacks attributed responsibility to Ukraine. This shows the selectivity of responsibility attribution – clear in Ukraine when covering Russia’s actions, but often obscured when it comes to the Saudi-led coalition’s attacks in Yemen.

Furthermore, a June 2017 headline portrays the coalition as concerned about the destruction it has caused: “Saudis Move to Address Civilian Toll in Yemen.” Compare this to how Russia’s attempts to address civilians are categorically dismissed: “Russia’s Explanations for Attacking Civilians Wither Under Scrutiny.”

A tale of two humanitarian crises​

Both invasions have led to situations of food insecurity – in Yemen creating a national risk of famine, and in Ukraine compromising global grain supply. However, the way the news stories speak about hunger in both countries has little in common.

Russian actions blocking grain exports and destroying crops and agricultural infrastructure are portrayed as deliberate and weaponized: “How Russia Is Using Ukrainians’ Hunger as a Weapon of War.”

In contrast, the Saudi-led coalition’s blockade, despite being the primary driverof the famine and even equated to torture by the World Organisation Against Torture, was rarely afforded this intent. In fact, coverage of the hunger crisis often did not mention the coalition at all, such as in this March 31, 2021, headline: “Famine Stalks Yemen, as War Drags on and Foreign Aid Wanes.”

Out of 73 stories broadly about food security in Yemen, only four unequivocally attributed rising starvation to the actions of the coalition and condemned their role.

Moral outrage vs. neutrality​

Headlines on Ukraine tend to invoke moral judgments, we found, compared with a more neutral tone on Yemen. Russia is portrayed as a violent, relentless and merciless villain: “Russian Forces Pound Civilians …” and “Russia Batters Ukraine ….” In turn, Ukrainians are presented as heroes who are fighting for the survival of their nation, and they are humanized in their suffering: “They Died by a Bridge in Ukraine. This Is Their Story.”

This moral positioning on the conflict in Ukraine is not necessarily a problem. After all, falsely equating Ukraine’s actions with those of Russia fails to account for Russian aggression, which initiated the armed conflict, as well as Russia’s routine targeting of civilian sites.

However, it is noteworthy that New York Times headlines on Yemen fail to employ similarly condemnatory narratives toward the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen. This is despite reports produced by human rights organizations, conflicttrackers, and international and regional experts that have blamed the coalition for the vast majority of civilian suffering.

As a consequence, Yemeni civilians become forgotten victims, unworthy of attention and obscured by opaque numbers, detached language on the consequences of coalition violence, and narratives of the inevitability of war. These editorial decisions obscure the role of the U.S. in Yemeni suffering – even if they do not reflect the underlying intent behind the reporting.

Journalism of deference​

In both the Yemen and Ukraine conflicts, the U.S. has spent tens of billions of dollars – more than US$75 billion in humanitarian, financial and military assistance to Ukraine and over $54 billion in military support to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates between 2015 and 2021 alone.

What’s different is that the U.S. is essentially on opposite sides in these conflicts when it comes to its relationship to those inflicting the most civilian casualties. Washington officials have made open and direct declarations about the inhumanity of atrocities in Ukraine while avoiding inquiry and condemnation of those in Yemen. Our research suggests that such messaging may be supported by the news media.

Esther Brito Ruiz, Adjunct Instructor, American University School of International Service and Jeff Bachman, Professorial Lecturer in Human Rights; Director, Ethics, Peace, and Human Rights MA Program, American University School of International Service

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

 
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Every day here on SH and in the rest of the world, America and Americans prove by their words, actions, deeds and agreement both open and silent, that they place almost no value on human life that is not "western".

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“Manifest Destiny” and the idea of “Exceptionalism” go hand in hand.
 
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Ahhh, remember the good ole days of the domino theory?
Yep, just after Korea that was the main theme when waving the flag, for MIC funding. Don't have a war, pay some scumbags to start one for you, or fake radio traffic about an attack, then rinse & repeat. I was stupid enough to buy into that for a while.
 
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I am VERY surprised that Google’s AI Bot actually came up with an answer this specific which coincides with the Pew Research Center and Gallup's poll results.

Thought I was familiar with most of the Think Tanks which did this kind of thing - but the Henry Jackson Society - who ARE these guys? See
Post #41.

2017 appears to have been the magical year for China - bashing.

Of note, Wheeghur boi Adrian Zenz first started publishing about Xinjiang in May 2018.


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Just needed to repeat that I am GENUINELY surprised.

Typically, Google whitewashes these little factoids.

For instance, queries on "Ukraine Propaganda" will always yield results portraying the Russians in an unfavorable light.

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One should have gotten a result suggestive of Chinese malfeasance, much like the way Google skews the results like it does in the example above (remember, Russia and China alwaaays baaad).

Anyway - thankyew Google.
 
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If a pro - Ukrainian outlet says something positive about Ukraine, ignore it.
If a pro - Ukrainian outlet says something negative about Ukraine, then it's probably real.
If an anti - Ukrainian outlet says something negative about Ukraine, ignore it.
If an anti - Ukrainian outlet says something positive about Ukraine, then it's probably real.

So if Bill O'Reilly expresses admiration, fawns and heaps accolades over Hillary Clinton having cured Cancer, then it's probably real :ROFLMAO:
 
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Headlines and Front Lines: How US News Coverage of Wars in Yemen and Ukraine Reveals Bias in Recording Civilian Harm​

By Jeff Bachman and Esther Brito Ruiz | August 3, 2023

Newspapers with headlines about Russian invasion of Ukraine


War entails suffering. How and how often that suffering is reported on in the U.S., however, is not evenhanded.

Take, for example, the Saudi-led intervention in Yemen in March 2015 and the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. The media attention afforded to the crises reveals biases that relate less to the human consequences of the conflicts than to the United States’ role and relationship with the warring parties involved.

In Yemen, the U.S. is arming and supporting the Saudi-led coalition, whose airstrikes and blockades have caused immense human suffering. Meanwhile in Eastern Europe, the U.S. is arming and aiding Ukraine’s efforts by helping to counter missile strikes that have targeted civilian infrastructure and to retake occupied territories where horrific killings have taken place.

As scholars who study genocide and other mass atrocities, as well as international security, we compared New York Times headlines that span approximately seven and a half years of the ongoing conflict in Yemen and the first nine months of the conflict in Ukraine.

We paid particular attention to headlines on civilian casualties, food security and provision of arms. We chose The New York Times because of its popularityand reputation as a credible and influential source on international news, with an extensive network of global reporters and over 130 Pulitzer Prizes.

Purposefully, our analysis focused solely on headlines. While the full stories may bring greater context to the reporting, headlines are particularly important for three reasons: They frame the story in a way that affects how it is read and remembered; reflect the publication’s ideological stance on an issue; and, for many news consumers, are the only part of the story that is read at all.

Our research shows extensive biases in both the scale and tone of coverage. These biases lead to reporting that highlights or downplays human suffering in the two conflicts in a way that seemingly coincides with U.S. foreign policy objectives.

Ukraine in spotlight​

War in Ukraine is clearly seen as more newsworthy to U.S. readers. This double standard may have less to do with the actual events than that the victims are white and “relatively European,” as one CBS News correspondent put it.

Our broad search of New York Times headlines concerning the overall civilian impact of the two conflicts yielded 546 stories on Yemen between March 26, 2015, and Nov. 30, 2022. Headlines on Ukraine passed that mark in under three months and then doubled it within nine months.

Front-page stories on Ukraine have been commonplace ever since the Russian invasion began in February 2022. In comparison, front-page stories on Yemen have been rare and, in some cases, as with coverage on food security in the country, came more than three years after the coalition initiated blockades that led to the crisis.

The first front-page article with explicit focus on the hunger crisis was published on June 14, 2018, with the headline “Saudi-Led Attack Deepens the World’s Worst Humanitarian Crisis.” By this point, 14 million Yemenis were already facing “catastrophic food insecurity,” according to the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights.

More context on Ukraine​

When we analyzed headlines on Yemen and Ukraine, we classified them as either “episodic,” meaning focused on specific events, or “thematic,” meaning more contextual. An example of an episodic headline is “Apparent Saudi Strike Kills at Least Nine in Yemeni Family.” An example of a thematic headline is “Ferocious Russian Attacks Spur Accusations of Genocide in Ukraine.”

New York Times headlines on Yemen were mostly focused on events, accounting for 64% of all headlines. In contrast, headlines on Ukraine involved a greater emphasis on context, accounting for 73% of total articles. The reason this is important is that by focusing more on either episodic or contextualized stories, newspapers are able to lead readers to different interpretations.

The largely episodic headlines on Yemen may give the impression that the harm reported is incidental, rather than symptomatic of the coalition’s violence. Meanwhile, contextual articles on Ukraine trace the broader implications of the conflict and reflect stories of continual Russian responsibility and accountability.

Differences in assigning blame​

Accountability in coverage is also vastly different. We found 50 headlines on Yemen that reported on specific attacks carried out by the Saudi-led coalition. Of them, 18 – just 36% – attributed responsibility to Saudi Arabia or the coalition. An egregious example that omits responsibility is this headline from April 24, 2018: “Yemen Strike Hits Wedding and Kills More Than 20.” A reader could easily interpret that as meaning that Yemen rebels were behind the attack rather than the Saudis – as was the case.

It is hard to imagine a Russian strike on a wedding in Ukraine headlined as “Ukraine Strike Hits Wedding and Kills More Than 20.”

Over the period we looked at, there were 54 headlines on specific attacks in Ukraine – 50 of which reported on Russian attacks, with the remaining four reporting on Ukrainian attacks. Here, of the 50 headlines about Russian attacks, 44 of them – or 88% – explicitly attributed responsibility to Russia. Meanwhile, none of the four headlines on Ukrainian attacks attributed responsibility to Ukraine. This shows the selectivity of responsibility attribution – clear in Ukraine when covering Russia’s actions, but often obscured when it comes to the Saudi-led coalition’s attacks in Yemen.

Furthermore, a June 2017 headline portrays the coalition as concerned about the destruction it has caused: “Saudis Move to Address Civilian Toll in Yemen.” Compare this to how Russia’s attempts to address civilians are categorically dismissed: “Russia’s Explanations for Attacking Civilians Wither Under Scrutiny.”

A tale of two humanitarian crises​

Both invasions have led to situations of food insecurity – in Yemen creating a national risk of famine, and in Ukraine compromising global grain supply. However, the way the news stories speak about hunger in both countries has little in common.

Russian actions blocking grain exports and destroying crops and agricultural infrastructure are portrayed as deliberate and weaponized: “How Russia Is Using Ukrainians’ Hunger as a Weapon of War.”

In contrast, the Saudi-led coalition’s blockade, despite being the primary driverof the famine and even equated to torture by the World Organisation Against Torture, was rarely afforded this intent. In fact, coverage of the hunger crisis often did not mention the coalition at all, such as in this March 31, 2021, headline: “Famine Stalks Yemen, as War Drags on and Foreign Aid Wanes.”

Out of 73 stories broadly about food security in Yemen, only four unequivocally attributed rising starvation to the actions of the coalition and condemned their role.

Moral outrage vs. neutrality​

Headlines on Ukraine tend to invoke moral judgments, we found, compared with a more neutral tone on Yemen. Russia is portrayed as a violent, relentless and merciless villain: “Russian Forces Pound Civilians …” and “Russia Batters Ukraine ….” In turn, Ukrainians are presented as heroes who are fighting for the survival of their nation, and they are humanized in their suffering: “They Died by a Bridge in Ukraine. This Is Their Story.”

This moral positioning on the conflict in Ukraine is not necessarily a problem. After all, falsely equating Ukraine’s actions with those of Russia fails to account for Russian aggression, which initiated the armed conflict, as well as Russia’s routine targeting of civilian sites.

However, it is noteworthy that New York Times headlines on Yemen fail to employ similarly condemnatory narratives toward the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen. This is despite reports produced by human rights organizations, conflicttrackers, and international and regional experts that have blamed the coalition for the vast majority of civilian suffering.

As a consequence, Yemeni civilians become forgotten victims, unworthy of attention and obscured by opaque numbers, detached language on the consequences of coalition violence, and narratives of the inevitability of war. These editorial decisions obscure the role of the U.S. in Yemeni suffering – even if they do not reflect the underlying intent behind the reporting.

Journalism of deference​

In both the Yemen and Ukraine conflicts, the U.S. has spent tens of billions of dollars – more than US$75 billion in humanitarian, financial and military assistance to Ukraine and over $54 billion in military support to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates between 2015 and 2021 alone.

What’s different is that the U.S. is essentially on opposite sides in these conflicts when it comes to its relationship to those inflicting the most civilian casualties. Washington officials have made open and direct declarations about the inhumanity of atrocities in Ukraine while avoiding inquiry and condemnation of those in Yemen. Our research suggests that such messaging may be supported by the news media.

Esther Brito Ruiz, Adjunct Instructor, American University School of International Service and Jeff Bachman, Professorial Lecturer in Human Rights; Director, Ethics, Peace, and Human Rights MA Program, American University School of International Service

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

Makes a guy cynical.
 
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My, my, my...

It's one of THOSE think tanks.

They did seem to start their China - bashing in 2017. Their first article focusing on such was "Safeguarding Our Systems: Managing Chinese Investment into the UK’s Digital and Critical National Infrastructure," 18th July 2017.

Thankyew Google.

See Post #17 and Post #37.
 
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"Here, Bruges is a good example of the European garden. Yes, Europe is a garden. We have built a garden. Everything works. It is the best combination of political freedom, economic prosperity and social cohesion that the humankind has been able to build - the three things together. And here, Bruges is maybe a good representation of beautiful things, intellectual life, wellbeing.

The rest of the world – and you know this very well, Federica – is not exactly a garden. Most of the rest of the world is a jungle, and the jungle could invade the garden. The gardeners should take care of it, but they will not protect the garden by building walls. A nice small garden surrounded by high walls in order to prevent the jungle from coming in is not going to be a solution. Because the jungle has a strong growth capacity, and the wall will never be high enough in order to protect the garden.

The gardeners have to go to the jungle. Europeans have to be much more engaged with the rest of the world. Otherwise, the rest of the world will invade us, by different ways and means.
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- Josep Borrell, at launch of the European Diplomatic Academy in Bruges, 13 October 2022
 
And why do you think that is, Sherlock?

These are countries that the beloved Anglosphere has trampled on is in the process of trampling upon, yes?

That certainly sounds like G7 propaganda - it may have been trendy in the late 80s to early 90s, but has since gotten a little long in the tooth.

Only a fool would consider personalities such as Carlson a source of serious information.

But in fairness to your statement, there are numerous flies who flock to high - traffic threads full of manure thinking their inane Twitter posts are of any substance.

I have yet to see a greater example of irony - with all this coming from someone whining about the Russians having come knocking at Ukraine’s door.
The US never trampled over Iran, as Iran was one of our biggest allies in the region.

The Muslim revolutionaries saw the US and any Western nation as their enemies, for ideological and religious reasons, but you often find that these types of groups are almost always proxies for major powers.

If you read through the Soviet archival records on the 1979 Revolution, it’s a mixed bag of claiming total shock that it happened, vs them thinking they could share some kind of common ground with them, and the practical aspects of ousting the Shah.

The Soviets did not like it that the US sold F-4Es, F-E/F, and F-14A with full weapons suite to Iran. The Soviets were used to being able to violate Iranian airspace at their pleasure until introduction of the F-14A/AWG-9 into the mix, so they saw US supplying of Iran as a major strategic threat to them close to their Caucuses Republics’ borders.

Remember that the Soviets and Brits invaded Iran back in 1941.

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It’s best to spend the time to put in the reps and years studying all of these things before jumping straight into rhetoric. I would recommend avoiding rhetoric altogether and focus more on geography, then history.

Precious-few people even in the US diplomatic corps or senior levels of DoD know any of this information, because of the schooling system in the US.

There is nothing ironic about my posts about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine relative to this subject. I don’t have a ADHD Twitter account, nor do I rely on any of these stupid social media platforms for primary source information.

What you’re going to see moving forward is a bigger house of cards built on internet-based knowledge only, where millennials and Gen Z truly believe that what’s on the internet is comprehensive enough to inform them well.

They don’t even realize that most of the information online is not accessible to them, as it’s in the Deep Web, and most of that is silo’d.
 
What is this?

More of your "I have yet to see?"
If you were to issue a test on geography and history to the entire US diplomatic corps and all the polysci professors in the US, how many of them do you think have even heard of the Russo-Anglo joint invasion of Persia in 1941?

How many of them would understand the significance of US Foreign Military Sales to Iran in the 1970s?

How many of them could tell the difference between detection and tracking ranges between the F-4E’s MSA vs the MiG-25’s Smerch, and how the F-14/AWG-9 changed all of that, shutting down Russian overflights into Iran?

Better yet, how many of them have even taken formal critical thinking courses in their university programs?

If one were to issue such a test or academic survey, you shouldn’t be shocked to see failure rates in the 99.x percentile.

These are your “experts”, who are at higher levels of access and daily assessments than the social media sphere, which is even less-informed/heavily misinformed, thinking they’re the most-informed generation that ever lived.
 
If you were to issue a test on geography and history to the entire US diplomatic corps and all the polysci professors in the US, how many of them do you think have even heard of the Russo-Anglo joint invasion of Persia in 1941?

How many of them would understand the significance of US Foreign Military Sales to Iran in the 1970s?

How many of them could tell the difference between detection and tracking ranges between the F-4E’s MSA vs the MiG-25’s Smerch, and how the F-14/AWG-9 changed all of that, shutting down Russian overflights into Iran?

Better yet, how many of them have even taken formal critical thinking courses in their university programs?

If one were to issue such a test or academic survey, you shouldn’t be shocked to see failure rates in the 99.x percentile.

These are your “experts”, who are at higher levels of access and daily assessments than the social media sphere, which is even less-informed/heavily misinformed, thinking they’re the most-informed generation that ever lived.

Your hubris and narcissistic notions of superiority, and this preconception that you tower over everyone else in intellect is plain for everyone to see.
 
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