DeLane Development Group Rimfire Ventures
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Two quick ones Mike.
I don't recall mention of the bolt tool in the recent posts. I wouldn't want to be without mine.
And thanks for choosing to go forward with Insite in Canada.
You mentioned that you are running a one man show ... any chance your youngest was truant all last week?
Thanks Mike
I don't recall mention of the bolt tool in the recent posts. I wouldn't want to be without mine.
And thanks for choosing to go forward with Insite in Canada.
You mentioned that you are running a one man show ... any chance your youngest was truant all last week?
Thanks Mike
Hey, Dude, you'll have to jog my memory on "bolt tool." Do you mean for disassembly for Gen 1 and 1.2?
He was legally truant for Spring break but I think that might've been the week before....it's all been such a flash.
MB
Yeah, that was after me. Looks like it's meant to cam the bolt shroud off to disassemble the post Gen 1 bolts.
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There's a joke in there somewhere....I just know it.
At some point, maybe, but one of the things I've enjoyed most over the years is interfacing with the community that, as long as I'm paying attention, has been what has driven the direction things have gone.
MB
Yeah, I'll need one of those if you make them. I'm an "old creaker" too. I've never taken the bolt apart on my Gen One.
Gotcha. The Gen 1 bolt shroud is threaded and Gens 2 and 3 are cam lock. To disassemble Gen 1, there's a different tool.
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The comments I saw were them getting roasted.
MB
I would have like to have read some. I am a voyeur at heart.
Mornin, Fellas,
The data entry is going well to get everyone plugged into my bookkeeping software and as I've read every email, it's funny that all three people still using AOL have emailed me.
As one can imagine, I've sifted through a lot of information in your emails, but I don't have all the info I need to discern who has what generation of action. So, DON'T do anything right now, but what can be expected next is an email from me (mass email style), where I'll simply ask, "What generation action do you have?" If you know the answer to this, simply reply with "Gen X" in the subject line. If you have a single shot, simply put "V22S". In the body of the email, please provide your full name, address and phone number. Please do not write anything else, anywhere else.
For those of you that do not know what generation you have, please see the pictures below. The easiest way to tell is by the bolt release, and for the Gen 1 and Gen 1.2, the cocking piece and bolt shroud are different.
Once I have the info, I'll organize a few details and keep moving forward. Also, when appropriate, I'll be accepting payments using the CASH App, which keeps me off the phone and provides some small level of "automation" for the process.
Gen 1
Gen 1.2
Gen 2, 22LR and Magnums
Gen 3, Three60 and V22S Single Shot
Onward and upward....
MB
The data entry is going well to get everyone plugged into my bookkeeping software and as I've read every email, it's funny that all three people still using AOL have emailed me.
As one can imagine, I've sifted through a lot of information in your emails, but I don't have all the info I need to discern who has what generation of action. So, DON'T do anything right now, but what can be expected next is an email from me (mass email style), where I'll simply ask, "What generation action do you have?" If you know the answer to this, simply reply with "Gen X" in the subject line. If you have a single shot, simply put "V22S". In the body of the email, please provide your full name, address and phone number. Please do not write anything else, anywhere else.
For those of you that do not know what generation you have, please see the pictures below. The easiest way to tell is by the bolt release, and for the Gen 1 and Gen 1.2, the cocking piece and bolt shroud are different.
Once I have the info, I'll organize a few details and keep moving forward. Also, when appropriate, I'll be accepting payments using the CASH App, which keeps me off the phone and provides some small level of "automation" for the process.
Gen 1
Gen 1.2
Gen 2, 22LR and Magnums
Gen 3, Three60 and V22S Single Shot
Onward and upward....
MB
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See edited post 11,429 ^^^^, to see pictures that will help you with what generation V-22 action you have.
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Wasn’t there two versions of the gen3 with slightly different bolt stops/releases? I had an early one I kept breaking them and they machined my early one to take the later wider one…
If anyone is interested in the 3D Part file for this Gen 3 tool, send me a PM. I made it a combo tool with a mag loader.
Yessir, there was a bolt release revision for the stop surface, but looking at the two releases from the outside, one can't tell a difference. I'll be making the revised Gen 3 release.
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CC's always work if this app handles 'em. "old school" guy here.
Yessir, CCs down the road, but processing them requires a lot of my time/attention that I'd rather use to ship parts and design new stuff. The CASH App is very fast and one's CC, Debit Card, Bank Account is linked to it and it's secure.
When I email the invoice for parts, my "Cash Tag" and QR code will be on it. Just type my cash tag into the app or scan the QR, enter the amount and hit send. I'll get a notification on my phone that one paid, and I can keep chugging away packing and shipping parts.
Think DOJE level efficiency....
MB
Based on the revision made to the release, there's corresponding revision made to the receiver to allow the wider stop feature through the opening. Not a difficult revision and I imagine, very few will need it.
MB
Dude, shoot me an email ([email protected]) and we'll work this into the parts kits for Gen 2 and above.
MB
Ok, info is continuing to pour in on who needs parts kits and some have sent what Gen(s) they have, which is noted internally via color code. I'm getting closer to sending out the mass email (all blind copies) I mentioned in post #11,429 and after you receive it, please reply as outlined. Those that have already told me what you have will not be part of the mass email.
This is a huge effort to create and organize an efficient infrastructure to ensure proper inventory levels for each generation action and to make sure everyone gets the correct parts kit(s). Once I have the process dialed via the in-house color codes, and when I have inventory to ship from, I'll start taking orders. I've continued to jump ahead for some that are stuck and give away parts that I have in my parts bin.
Also, for those needing a bolt disassembly tool for Gen 2 and Gen 3, it will be available thanks to a collaboration with @chutinlead. We'll also come up with a tool for Gen 1 and Gen 1.2. Lastly, action wrenches won't be immediately available, but will be made available once parts kits are flowing.
The DeLane Development Group, group page on FB has blown up with requests to join and I'm approving them almost as they come in, so be patient if I haven't immediately approved you. To say everyone is excited, including me, is an understatement. Keep it coming, Guys.
MB
This is a huge effort to create and organize an efficient infrastructure to ensure proper inventory levels for each generation action and to make sure everyone gets the correct parts kit(s). Once I have the process dialed via the in-house color codes, and when I have inventory to ship from, I'll start taking orders. I've continued to jump ahead for some that are stuck and give away parts that I have in my parts bin.
Also, for those needing a bolt disassembly tool for Gen 2 and Gen 3, it will be available thanks to a collaboration with @chutinlead. We'll also come up with a tool for Gen 1 and Gen 1.2. Lastly, action wrenches won't be immediately available, but will be made available once parts kits are flowing.
The DeLane Development Group, group page on FB has blown up with requests to join and I'm approving them almost as they come in, so be patient if I haven't immediately approved you. To say everyone is excited, including me, is an understatement. Keep it coming, Guys.
MB
Mike, I am happy to hear that you are excited. Can’t wait to see what the next thing you come up with for us to blow all our money on!
The first round of parts set to hit inventory are cocking pieces, scope bases (0, 20, 30, 40, 60 MOA), bolt knobs (all sizes), and thread protectors (all sizes).
All 22LR firing pins, ejectors, and side bolt releases are next to get running. All springs will be running in parallel.
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All 22LR firing pins, ejectors, and side bolt releases are next to get running. All springs will be running in parallel.
MB
You know, my recent Vudoo was slightly off level so far as the rail to receiver relationship or at least I thought so when leveling the scope. Worth bothering with a new base?
Yes, by a RCH. Axially it’s obviously not level.
I doubt it’s worth messing with? Scopes rotate in rings for a reason.
Yep,Yes, by a RCH. Axially it’s obviously not level.
, but I had to delineate which direction because one should never assume. On the lateral, I believe it and your question forced a thought that I'll involve the participation of @chutinlead. A small amount isn't a big deal as long as one can ensure the receiver is level to the top plane before setting up the scope, especially if there's going to be a level mounted to the scope or one of the digital levels used.MB
The problem is one of 2 things we have seen, if it is cerakoted it most likely has too much cerakote in the pin pocket or it is not deep enough. An 1/8" endmill will solve that problem and allow the rail to sit flush to the action if you're the DIYer kinda guy.
I assume a late 2024 Vudoo is cerakoted. Hand tap or drill good enough? I don’t have a workspace to fixture or drill press.
This is what I use to fix the issue.
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A proper end mill is best (like @David Lott posted), as it has no point like a drill and will clean the entirety of the blind hole for the pin. It's best to have no, or a very small, corner radius.
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I've received a bit of outreach about what parts are in the kits and at the moment, I'll answer for everyone here by saying that every small component that is part of the action assembly will be in the comprehensive kits. I'll publish what's specifically in the kits later, but there are five:
1. Orange--Gen 1
2. Red--Gen 1.2
3. Purple--Gen 2
4. Blue--Gen 3 Repeater
5. Yellow--Gen 3 Single Shot
I won't be offering the action assembly components individually, so if you need a part, the kit is the only way to go. There's a lot involved in making this work and to ship a single part only to have to provide another single part for the same action/rifle later on is not efficient and there are many kits that will be shipped OCONUS.
I've also received numerous questions about magazines and if I have an equivalent to my original polymer magazines. Currently, I do not, but I will be making and supplying a new magazine later as part of the two actions that will use them, and the plan is, they will be backward compatible with the V-22.
Hope this helps,
MB
1. Orange--Gen 1
2. Red--Gen 1.2
3. Purple--Gen 2
4. Blue--Gen 3 Repeater
5. Yellow--Gen 3 Single Shot
I won't be offering the action assembly components individually, so if you need a part, the kit is the only way to go. There's a lot involved in making this work and to ship a single part only to have to provide another single part for the same action/rifle later on is not efficient and there are many kits that will be shipped OCONUS.
I've also received numerous questions about magazines and if I have an equivalent to my original polymer magazines. Currently, I do not, but I will be making and supplying a new magazine later as part of the two actions that will use them, and the plan is, they will be backward compatible with the V-22.
Hope this helps,
MB
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This flat nose works great,
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Perfect. Pin vise and a square end mill, I can do that.
Put a feeler gauge under the pic rail and see how much you need to remove, usually a thousandths or 2 is all it needs
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