Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
they ultimate boy scout gun lol. nice stick
they ultimate boy scout gun lol. nice stick
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
Thanks! It's very modular (well, the M96 platform is anyhow). M98 is 338LM only whereas the M96 will chamber 50 BMG, 408 Cheytac and 50 DTC. The M98 "might" chamber 308 win. but I have never checked. I know the conversion kits for each are a little pricey at $2K each (bolt, magazine and barrel is included with the kit). This is from what I've read, but the edmarms.com website isn't that fruitful with their data/details on offerings!
Thanks! It's very modular (well, the M96 platform is anyhow). M98 is 338LM only whereas the M96 will chamber 50 BMG, 408 Cheytac and 50 DTC. The M98 "might" chamber 308 win. but I have never checked. I know the conversion kits for each are a little pricey at $2K each (bolt, magazine and barrel is included with the kit). This is from what I've read, but the edmarms.com website isn't that fruitful with their data/details on offerings!
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
Damn thats bad ass!!
Damn thats bad ass!!
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
That is really nice!
That is really nice!
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
That gets a a two-syllable "da mn" - I'm jealous.
That gets a a two-syllable "da mn" - I'm jealous.
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
ridiculously awesome
ridiculously awesome
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
Im not going to be my normal self. it looks nice the scope is good quality though. hope you dont have any problems with indexing.
Im not going to be my normal self. it looks nice the scope is good quality though. hope you dont have any problems with indexing.
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cowboy1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im not going to be my normal self. it looks nice the scope is good quality though. hope you dont have any problems with indexing.</div></div>
Thanks! Nope, no issues at all with this setup.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cowboy1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im not going to be my normal self. it looks nice the scope is good quality though. hope you dont have any problems with indexing.</div></div>
Thanks! Nope, no issues at all with this setup.
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
Ok Cowboy, I'll bite....
What kind of "indexing" problems do you see as happening with a Windrunner?
Ok Cowboy, I'll bite....
What kind of "indexing" problems do you see as happening with a Windrunner?
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Protocol</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks! It's very modular (well, the M96 platform is anyhow). M98 is 338LM only whereas the M96 will chamber 50 BMG, 408 Cheytac and 50 DTC. The M98 "might" chamber 308 win. but I have never checked. I know the conversion kits for each are a little pricey at $2K each (bolt, magazine and barrel is included with the kit). This is from what I've read, but the edmarms.com website isn't that fruitful with their data/details on offerings!</div></div>
The M96 is also chambered in the .338LM It is supposed to shoot like a pussycat.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Protocol</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks! It's very modular (well, the M96 platform is anyhow). M98 is 338LM only whereas the M96 will chamber 50 BMG, 408 Cheytac and 50 DTC. The M98 "might" chamber 308 win. but I have never checked. I know the conversion kits for each are a little pricey at $2K each (bolt, magazine and barrel is included with the kit). This is from what I've read, but the edmarms.com website isn't that fruitful with their data/details on offerings!</div></div>
The M96 is also chambered in the .338LM It is supposed to shoot like a pussycat.
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
Ok Cowboy, I'll bite.
What kind of "indexing" problems do you see as happening with a Windrunner?
Proto, no scope on this one, great rig you have there. 100 at 10x8.
Click here: http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/?action=view¤t=50I-SIGHTAVI.mp4
Ok Cowboy, I'll bite.
What kind of "indexing" problems do you see as happening with a Windrunner?
Proto, no scope on this one, great rig you have there. 100 at 10x8.
Click here: http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/?action=view¤t=50I-SIGHTAVI.mp4
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok Cowboy, I'll bite.
What kind of "indexing" problems do you see as happening with a Windrunner?
Proto, no scope on this one, great rig you have there. 100 at 10x8.
Click here: http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/?action=view¤t=50I-SIGHTAVI.mp4
</div></div>
He got me on that one too. ????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok Cowboy, I'll bite.
What kind of "indexing" problems do you see as happening with a Windrunner?
Proto, no scope on this one, great rig you have there. 100 at 10x8.
Click here: http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/?action=view¤t=50I-SIGHTAVI.mp4
</div></div>
He got me on that one too. ????
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
LOL! I was thinking barrel indexing as in the dope differences between the two barrels, or how headspace, etc. changes between the two. Bill Ritchie designed the barrel indexing system to be pretty secure and precise through repetition. By the way, a total pleasure talking to Bill over the phone. Customer service is hands down some of the best in the industry (Stacey with AI would be neck and neck with Bill).
I know the term indexing gets somewhat confusing as it can refer to a lot of different things. With body indexing and overall ergonomics my only complaint would be the collapsible stock. For a tactical application I could totally see it working as intended. For what I use it for, not so comfortable. Even the adjustable cheek rest (which can be acquired for a hefty $650 with the trade-in of the factory stock/rest) doesn't go low enough. It's simply just too high for me. (I want to stress <span style="text-decoration: underline">me</span> there). If the stock could be used in more than the one "red ring" lock location it would be nice as well. Sure, I could do extensive modification to probably satisfy all of my complaints, but for at $6000+ rifle, it should be a bit more "adjustable" I think. I have to say the factory EDM M60-style bipod is not the best. I have constant cant problems with it because the legs don't sync in height, the legs don't fold easily most of the time, and it's fixed with zero swivel for tracking. The bipod is also about 7 lbs! I know, I know... get a different bipod, ok done.
Even given my complaints, I still enjoy shooting it as much as possible!
Hopefully I answer your question, but if not let me know and maybe I can get on the same page as you!
Thanks,
Lee
LOL! I was thinking barrel indexing as in the dope differences between the two barrels, or how headspace, etc. changes between the two. Bill Ritchie designed the barrel indexing system to be pretty secure and precise through repetition. By the way, a total pleasure talking to Bill over the phone. Customer service is hands down some of the best in the industry (Stacey with AI would be neck and neck with Bill).
I know the term indexing gets somewhat confusing as it can refer to a lot of different things. With body indexing and overall ergonomics my only complaint would be the collapsible stock. For a tactical application I could totally see it working as intended. For what I use it for, not so comfortable. Even the adjustable cheek rest (which can be acquired for a hefty $650 with the trade-in of the factory stock/rest) doesn't go low enough. It's simply just too high for me. (I want to stress <span style="text-decoration: underline">me</span> there). If the stock could be used in more than the one "red ring" lock location it would be nice as well. Sure, I could do extensive modification to probably satisfy all of my complaints, but for at $6000+ rifle, it should be a bit more "adjustable" I think. I have to say the factory EDM M60-style bipod is not the best. I have constant cant problems with it because the legs don't sync in height, the legs don't fold easily most of the time, and it's fixed with zero swivel for tracking. The bipod is also about 7 lbs! I know, I know... get a different bipod, ok done.
Even given my complaints, I still enjoy shooting it as much as possible!
Hopefully I answer your question, but if not let me know and maybe I can get on the same page as you!
Thanks,
Lee
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The M96 is also chambered in the .338LM It is supposed to shoot like a pussycat.</div></div>
That's true, forgot to add that one to the M96. Yeah, as heavy as the M96 is I bet it's very gentle. The M98 is 22 lbs. w/o optics and it feel similar to a 308. I bet the M96 is like shooting 5.56! I've never shot a M96 in 338LM, but I have in 50 BMG and it was rather tame.
About 100 percent less than a TAC-50, which I formerly shot regularly. That shit hurts after about 15 rounds...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The M96 is also chambered in the .338LM It is supposed to shoot like a pussycat.</div></div>
That's true, forgot to add that one to the M96. Yeah, as heavy as the M96 is I bet it's very gentle. The M98 is 22 lbs. w/o optics and it feel similar to a 308. I bet the M96 is like shooting 5.56! I've never shot a M96 in 338LM, but I have in 50 BMG and it was rather tame.
About 100 percent less than a TAC-50, which I formerly shot regularly. That shit hurts after about 15 rounds...
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok Cowboy, I'll bite.
What kind of "indexing" problems do you see as happening with a Windrunner?
Proto, no scope on this one, great rig you have there. 100 at 10x8.
Click here: http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/?action=view¤t=50I-SIGHTAVI.mp4
</div></div>
Two words... Frigging sweet!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok Cowboy, I'll bite.
What kind of "indexing" problems do you see as happening with a Windrunner?
Proto, no scope on this one, great rig you have there. 100 at 10x8.
Click here: http://s623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/?action=view¤t=50I-SIGHTAVI.mp4
</div></div>
Two words... Frigging sweet!
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
Uhmmm, I am thinking that Cowboy is driving at something all together different. I think he has never seen a Windrunner, let alone assembled/disassembled a Windrunner, shot a windrunner, and is as clueless as to how a Windrunner actually goes about mounting and registering the barrel. I think Cowboy thinks that one screws the barrel into the receiver every time.
And.....I think that it is exactly like "his normal self"
CLICK http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/ASD.jpg
Now go and get yourself either the long bpod pin from Bill CLICK http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/pi9h.jpg
Or contact Dogtown or trigger50 to see if they know where you can get the full above axis bipod tube.
CLICK http://weww.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1262342
and raise your scope with new rings.
You wont believe the difference..
Uhmmm, I am thinking that Cowboy is driving at something all together different. I think he has never seen a Windrunner, let alone assembled/disassembled a Windrunner, shot a windrunner, and is as clueless as to how a Windrunner actually goes about mounting and registering the barrel. I think Cowboy thinks that one screws the barrel into the receiver every time.
And.....I think that it is exactly like "his normal self"
CLICK http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/ASD.jpg
Now go and get yourself either the long bpod pin from Bill CLICK http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/pi9h.jpg
Or contact Dogtown or trigger50 to see if they know where you can get the full above axis bipod tube.
CLICK http://weww.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1262342
and raise your scope with new rings.
You wont believe the difference..
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
Hehe! Oh man, if the barrel screwed onto the action I would have never bough it. That would be probably the worst thing you could do to a breakdown rifle I'd think. I can see where he could be concerned if it was threaded, but with the keyed Uzi-style mating it's rock solid consistent every time.
I was thinking about getting the tube bipod actually. Looks very stable at any angle, even with uneven ground. The default shipping M60-style bipod was pretty much designed for bench-only shooting from the looks of it. Pretty sweet setup.
I really should have bought the Nightforce UH (1.375") rings originally, but it felt good sitting here at home after I mounted the NF Titaniums... Then you run 140 rounds though it in a day and your cheekbone will know it. Nothing major, but it's there. It would be slightly worse if it wasn't for the 45 MOA base!
Hehe! Oh man, if the barrel screwed onto the action I would have never bough it. That would be probably the worst thing you could do to a breakdown rifle I'd think. I can see where he could be concerned if it was threaded, but with the keyed Uzi-style mating it's rock solid consistent every time.
I was thinking about getting the tube bipod actually. Looks very stable at any angle, even with uneven ground. The default shipping M60-style bipod was pretty much designed for bench-only shooting from the looks of it. Pretty sweet setup.
I really should have bought the Nightforce UH (1.375") rings originally, but it felt good sitting here at home after I mounted the NF Titaniums... Then you run 140 rounds though it in a day and your cheekbone will know it. Nothing major, but it's there. It would be slightly worse if it wasn't for the 45 MOA base!
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Uhmmm, I am thinking that Cowboy is driving at something all together different. I think he has never seen a Windrunner, let alone assembled/disassembled a Windrunner, shot a windrunner, and is as clueless as to how a Windrunner actually goes about mounting and registering the barrel. I think Cowboy thinks that one screws the barrel into the receiver every time.
And.....I think that it is exactly like "his normal self"
CLICK http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/ASD.jpg
Now go and get yourself either the long bpod pin from Bill CLICK http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/pi9h.jpg
Or contact Dogtown or trigger50 to see if they know where you can get the full above axis bipod tube.
CLICK http://weww.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1262342
and raise your scope with new rings.
You wont believe the difference..
</div></div>
Do you know what Bill charges for the new pin? I need to get my bolt to him anyways because it has a rough bolt lift.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Uhmmm, I am thinking that Cowboy is driving at something all together different. I think he has never seen a Windrunner, let alone assembled/disassembled a Windrunner, shot a windrunner, and is as clueless as to how a Windrunner actually goes about mounting and registering the barrel. I think Cowboy thinks that one screws the barrel into the receiver every time.
And.....I think that it is exactly like "his normal self"
CLICK http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/ASD.jpg
Now go and get yourself either the long bpod pin from Bill CLICK http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/1M_GHOST/pi9h.jpg
Or contact Dogtown or trigger50 to see if they know where you can get the full above axis bipod tube.
CLICK http://weww.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1262342
and raise your scope with new rings.
You wont believe the difference..
</div></div>
Do you know what Bill charges for the new pin? I need to get my bolt to him anyways because it has a rough bolt lift.
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
I think it's $125 if I recall correctly.
Mine was getting a little rough thought the camming but I broke it down and cleaned with carburetor cleaner and coated all of the internals with white lithium grease. Probably good to have Bill take a look though. Knowing him he will just send you a new bolt!
I think it's $125 if I recall correctly.
Mine was getting a little rough thought the camming but I broke it down and cleaned with carburetor cleaner and coated all of the internals with white lithium grease. Probably good to have Bill take a look though. Knowing him he will just send you a new bolt!
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
Mechanic, Proto...
Bolt lift issues..complicated. We start at the bolt tube where the sear engages. If you think about it, when you open the bolt the sear glides up the angle to it's locked position.
Honestly, I'm guessing heat treating on the sear, look for galling. Is that fair? Well, to be honest, on this issue in that rig, I would press you to start at the sear's heat treating. If you sees "push" on the sear metal or bolt tube, well....
Mechanic, Proto...
Bolt lift issues..complicated. We start at the bolt tube where the sear engages. If you think about it, when you open the bolt the sear glides up the angle to it's locked position.
Honestly, I'm guessing heat treating on the sear, look for galling. Is that fair? Well, to be honest, on this issue in that rig, I would press you to start at the sear's heat treating. If you sees "push" on the sear metal or bolt tube, well....
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mechanic, Proto...
Bolt lift issues..complicated. We start at the bolt tube where the sear engages. If you think about it, when you open the bolt the sear glides up the angle to it's locked position.
Honestly, I'm guessing heat treating on the sear, look for galling. Is that fair? Well, to be honest, on this issue in that rig, I would press you to start at the sear's heat treating. If you sees "push" on the sear metal or bolt tube, well....
</div></div>
Oh I totally agree! My particular case was just from it being rather dirty... "crunchy" even.
The only other modification I did was trim the ejector spring slightly. It was difficult to chamber initially because of it. Afterwards, like a glove.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mechanic, Proto...
Bolt lift issues..complicated. We start at the bolt tube where the sear engages. If you think about it, when you open the bolt the sear glides up the angle to it's locked position.
Honestly, I'm guessing heat treating on the sear, look for galling. Is that fair? Well, to be honest, on this issue in that rig, I would press you to start at the sear's heat treating. If you sees "push" on the sear metal or bolt tube, well....
</div></div>
Oh I totally agree! My particular case was just from it being rather dirty... "crunchy" even.
The only other modification I did was trim the ejector spring slightly. It was difficult to chamber initially because of it. Afterwards, like a glove.
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
I saw another one at a range and noticed that the semi-circular part that the bolt "cams" on seems to be kind of polished on mine and my friends is case hardened black. It just seems to be galling as it ramps up even without a case. Just a hard lift that my Friends just does not do. I have had it for several years and if you can believe it only have about 30 to 40 rounds through it. It is still like brand new.
I saw another one at a range and noticed that the semi-circular part that the bolt "cams" on seems to be kind of polished on mine and my friends is case hardened black. It just seems to be galling as it ramps up even without a case. Just a hard lift that my Friends just does not do. I have had it for several years and if you can believe it only have about 30 to 40 rounds through it. It is still like brand new.
Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
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Re: EDM Windrunner M98 .338 LM - NF 5.5-22x50 NPR1
i never seen a rifle like this before
i never seen a rifle like this before
