M40a1 build guide

[mcm308]

Re: M40a1 build guide

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wilshire1412</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt Henry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey is it possible, or even Legal to stamp U.S. above the serial #. Like an original?
I found a digit action </div></div>

If you look closely at the photos that George has posted directly above you can see my action, it is the one in the middle. It did not have the U.S. stamp when I sent it in, it is done by GA Precision when you request a spec build M40A1. The early 6 digit actions that went to the Marine Corps were marked this way, the later actions that were procured as replacements are reportedly without the U.S. stamp above the number. This is legal to do as it is in the end a replica rifle. </div></div>

You will also see my action, It's the top one. It's later "E" prefix. It does not get the U.S. stamp like the earlier 6 digit actions.

 

[wilshire1412]

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Long box from GAP arrived by UPS yesterday, mounted the scope last night....first photos.....

 

[mcm308]

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NICE !! Man, I hope mine is on the way, I can't wait any longer..LOL

 

[grunt0311]

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Wilshire, that is an awesome rifle. Let us know how it shoots. Want to get mine done just looking for a barrel!! Congrats again on a great rifle.

 

[mcm308]

Re: M40a1 build guide

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMC Grunt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wilshire, that is an awesome rifle. Let us know how it shoots. Want to get mine done just looking for a barrel!! Congrats again on a great rifle. </div></div>


Give Gary Schneider a call ! Or I'm quite sure GAP can supply it. The barrel should not be a hold up, they can be had.

 

[grunt0311]

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Im looking for a Hart barrel for my a1 and a Schneider to rebarrel my a3. I heard a rumor that Gary isnt selling to civilians right now because of his contract with the Marines. Im looking to get his USMC contract barrel. Does anyone know for sure if that is true or just a rumor.

 

[mcm308]

Re: M40a1 build guide

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMC Grunt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im looking for a Hart barrel for my a1 and a Schneider to rebarrel my a3. I heard a rumor that Gary isnt selling to civilians right now because of his contract with the Marines. Im looking to get his USMC contract barrel. Does anyone know for sure if that is true or just a rumor. </div></div>

I'll give Gary a call and find out what's going on. I do know you can only get them at certain times when he makes a few extras for us civvies.. Maybe the USMC didn't like him selling their barrel out to the public and told him to cut it? He made special tooling just to make the USMC barrels. I dunno, I'll find out.

 

[Turk]

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An HS barrel is really more fitting; but they are even harder to get!

 

[mcm308]

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That rumor you heard about Gary is not true and he was a little upset that somekind of bullshit like that was floating around the internet. They are available and he always makes extras. Give him a ring. 928-474-2852. He will have a website soon. That settles that!!

 

[doc76251]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wilshire1412</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Long box from GAP arrived by UPS yesterday, mounted the scope last night....first photos.....

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Can't be real, no Duct Tape, no Foam Packing, no cheap spray paint

JK. Nice stick!!!!!

Cheers,

Doc

 

[Turk]

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Gary is a real nice guy and he is eager to help in any way he can!

 

[BillCominos]

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WOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! That's just what I needed to hear!!!!!!!!!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mcm308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That rumor you heard about Gary is not true and he was a little upset that somekind of bullshit like that was floating around the internet. They are available and he always makes extras. Give him a ring. 928-474-2852. He will have a website soon. That settles that!! </div></div>

 

[grunt0311]

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Im glad to hear that Gary is still selling his contract barrels. Im sorry if I got him lil upset. One of the guys in our platoon was saying that. So I hope that it didnt get too far. I cant wait for him to get his site up. How much is he selling the contract barrel for?

An HS barrel would be nice since its going on a smear stock. But I have heard a lot of good things about Hart and I pretty much have it set that I will get one from them.

 

[Turk]

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HS doesn't make blanks any more. Hart is great so is Schneider!

 

[mcm308]

Re: M40a1 build guide

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMC Grunt</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> How much is he selling the contract barrel for?

But I have heard a lot of good things about Hart and I pretty much have it set that I will get one from them. </div></div>

I think mine was 335 shipped to my door. 315 plus shipping. You can't go wrong with a Hart but I would go Schneider on the A1 also. He rebarreled A1's so it's all good. Call Gary and get 2 !!

 

[Old NFO]

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Gary WILL take care of you. One super nice gentleman! He got me a barrel in less than 30 days.

 

[BillCominos]

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Just got off the phone with Mr. Schneider, a true gentleman & a pleasure to do business with! I had him put back a USMC contract barrel for me and he said he had about 6 more available as of today. Can't wait to get it! BTW - the pricing is $320 for the barrel + $16 shipping for a total of $336. He takes checks, money orders, or plastic (+2.6% I believe he said)....

That's the last piece I needed! Just need to get the barrel screwed on and have it rebedded. Will use GAP for that as they know these better than most by now! Pics to follow when completed! (early smear stock with a semi-period correct Redfield 3x9 Accurange Widefield w/tombstone reticle, Unertl or USO MST to follow when I win the lottery!!)

Semper Fi!!!

 

[Unsichtbar]

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I have one of Garys M40 barrels .308 (rough OD you will like that) you will be very happy. Plus all those barrels are quench in pigs blood at no extra charge,what a deal, mine was signed to that effect.

 

[7mmRM]

Re: M40a1 build guide

wilshire1412,

Looks great!!!!

 

[wilshire1412]

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Thanks 7! I spent some time this AM getting the scope boresighted, I don't think I have ever felt so anal about the crosshairs being straight before. I think the (my) eyes start to play more tricks on you in relation to the amount of money spent on the equipment. The USO base is a GTG piece of gear, I was worried that it might be a pain in the ass since the rings are fixed in place but so far it all appears good.

 

[shawn b]

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wilshire1412,
Your A1 turned out great, its got me wanting to build one on a woodland stock now.

 

[BillCominos]

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That is one of the nicest looking turn-ins I've seen! The stock looks almost brand new! Congrats!!!

 

[81STFACP]

Re: M40a1 build guide

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wilshire1412</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks 7! I spent some time this AM getting the scope boresighted, I don't think I have ever felt so anal about the crosshairs being straight before. I think the (my) eyes start to play more tricks on you in relation to the amount of money spent on the equipment. The USO base is a GTG piece of gear, I was worried that it might be a pain in the ass since the rings are fixed in place but so far it all appears good. </div></div>

Wishire,


Nice stick. Now USO needs to build some more mounts so I can finish my return stock.


BTW, I talked to Gary yesterday, he has some more M40 barrels, one is heading to ATX.

 

[BillCominos]

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Received my barrel from Gary the other day and it is awesome! Going to have whichever smith I decide to use on this to cut me a die out of a piece of the barrel so the same reamer used to cut the chamber will also be used to make the die...

Now that I have the stock, bottom metal, modified box mag, notched trigger, a M700P donor barreled action, and the new barrel as well as a Redfield 3x9 w/tombstone reticle I just need to decide who I want to screw it all together!

Just need the barrel chambered and everything trued up & bedded.... Any of our good smiths care to provide a quote on the work (including the custom die!)??? Thanks!

 

[JaneDoe]

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After reading through this I am still a bit confused as to the correct bottom metal needed for a "as close to spec as I can get" build. I am putting the rifle together on a new McMillan stock so I don't have the bottom metal a return stock would. I am not sure what trigger guard / floorplate to have the stock inletted for. Should I order Winchester model 70 bottom metal for a long action to be modified by the builder - if so what do you tell McMillan - or get Williams 1 piece bottom metal?

 

[Turk]

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Tell MCM that you want the M40A1 inlet! Get the Win Bottom metal and shrink it.

 

[grunt0311]

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If your looking for "as close to spec as I can get" then I would get the Winchester M70 bottom metal. Im just one of those that "has" to use the parts that the Corps. I am in the process of cutting the bottom metal from the M70 for a spec M40a1 build. But its what you can afford and have the time to do. Just my 2 cents.

 

[BillCominos]

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Think that most here who went that route, went with the Williams & had it fitted by their smith.... Lucky enough to have BM for mine, not the right SN, but fits like a glove! I believe GAP may still have some original BM's available for spec builds done by them.....

 

[reewik]

Re: M40a1 build guide

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wilshire1412</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Long box from GAP arrived by UPS yesterday, mounted the scope last night....first photos.....

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One day, I will have one of these, that is when life stops getting in the way...LOL

Very nice!!!!

 

[grunt0311]

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I see a lot of builds now that have the woodland stock. They look great. Does anyone knows when the Marine Corps started using these stocks on the rifles? Just a thought. Thanks.

 

[Turk]

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Mid 80's.

 

[sheldon]

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Anyone remember what was the recommended solvent is to use for getting the paint off the return stocks?? I am in the mood to clean my old return off and see what the smear patter is like underneath the paint on it. I couldn't find the old thread that mentioned how to clean off the paint without harming the gelcoat. It was either mineral spirits or paint thinner as I recall. Thanks.

 

[WRM]

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MEK was recommended to me and it worked quite well....

 

[konabully]

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DO NOT use MEK on the older smear pattern return stocks. MEK is too harsh on the gelcoat and will dry it out, making it too brittle. Laquer thinner and elbow grease is the best route on the smears.

 

[sheldon]

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Ok.....and I was just about to get off my ass to head down to Ace Hardware for some MEK too.. Thanks. Laquer thinner then it is.

 

[WRM]

Re: M40a1 build guide

I had never heard that about MEK harming the smear stocks, so my apologies for the suggestion. It did no harm to the woodland that I had, and I didn't know that they evidently changed the gel coat formulas between the two "models".

Bill

 

[sheldon]

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Got most of it off with the laquer thinner. Will try to post some before and after pics later. I'm hoping to drop in a .22 rimfire 40X into mine. I know I will have to fit the bottom metal in, but at least I will get to use the stock.

I tried test dropping the 40X into the stock and the recoil lug on the 40X is too thick to fit into the existing bedding.....so much for a quick easy swap. I will add a pic of the stripped smear tomorrow.

 

[long-shot]

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Bill,

I cleaned my woodland camo return stock using MEK with no ill-effects.

jeff

 

[WRM]

Re: M40a1 build guide

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: long-shot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bill,

I cleaned my woodland camo return stock using MEK with no ill-effects.

jeff </div></div>

Yep. It wiped off dry, and left a nice clean, non-sticky semi-gloss finish on mine, so I don't think it pulled any finish/color off or soaked into the surface/resin. But those were Woodlands, and I have no experience with a Smear?

Thanks,

Bill

 

[chescka]

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Hi there!
This is chescka from Italy!

I'm getting conflicting information regarding the "7.62 NATO". I was at GAP a couple of weeks ago, and handled George's rifle when he was scuba diving. It didn't have the 7.62 NATO stamp. I've also been told that the M40a1's all had BDL mag boxes tacked in place on all of them. I'm veryifing this information so bare with me.

Thank's!...

 

[long-shot]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sheldon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I tried test dropping the 40X into the stock and the recoil lug on the 40X is too thick to fit into the existing bedding.....so much for a quick easy swap. I will add a pic of the stripped smear tomorrow. </div></div>

More than likely your recoil isn't too thick it just hasn't been been tapered (so too wide).

 

[chad3]

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Used a ball end on a dremel and ran it down the sides to get it to fit. Didn't want to attempt the tapering of the lug. long-shot has it right.

 

[sheldon]

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The threaded insert has pulled out on this stock. What would be the correct way to replace the insert? What thread and what is used to bond it back in place?

 

[chad3]

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That would be too much work for me to handle. The threads are the same as the outlet screw (not sure what they are). Give a call to McMillan and see if they may be able to help you out. If not, call one of the reputable 'smiths and see if they might take it on.
Chad

 

[shawn b]

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MST came in today

 

[API Norway]

Re: M40a1 build guide

WOW,what a great stick !!!
congrats on that!

 

[medbill]

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Hey Dudes,

Where can I get an MST-100 scope these days? Used market only?

Thanks,

B

ps: I have a GAP M40A1 spec build just sitting in the safe waiting for the "correct" scope.

 

[chad3]

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They are all sold from USO, but I was told that some gunsmiths bought a number of them. Maybe you can find out who they were.

 

[willsnipe]

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tag

 

[flem100]

Re: M40a1 build guide

Hello all,

I have googled and googled and had little luck. Does anyone know if the USMC drawings/blueprints for any of the M40 series rifles have made it onto the net?

Many thanks in advance,

Ben