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Police Snipers kill Discovery Channel hostage take

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Interesting the way this unfolded, of note is that he was neutralized as soon as he pointed his weapon at a hostage. I presume the SWAT team was trained / instructed to prevent harm to the hostages and saw that action as unacceptably threatening.
 
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The American media is to blame -50CAL must play apart being a media student --it is obvious cheap American reality shows have affected this mans brain enough for him to lose control ! had he lived this argument could have been as good as the twinky defence !

"He demands that the Discovery Channel broadcast daily prime-time shows devoted to "solutions to save the planet,"

perhaps in a game-show format, insisting,

"Make it interesting so people watch and apply solutions!!!!"

haaaaaaaaaaaaa thats funny shit above
 
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The police snipers did a great job of taking out the trash!
This guy was what you could classify as a Domestic Terrorist.
Bombs, guns, hostages, The swat team did an excellent job, one dead bad guy and no hostages harmed.

Part of his his crazy leftwing earthworshiping nutjob demands: (courtesy of the fox news channel)

"In another section, he wrote: "All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it." "

Well it seems the best answer is starting the lowering of the population with him HA!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: W54/XM-388</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

"In another section, he wrote: "All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it." "

Well it seems the best answer is starting the lowering of the population with him HA!

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I can fully understand the above statements if they were directed toward the middle east and africa -not so dumb -shit maybe we shoulda heard him out
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dareposte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I presume the SWAT team was trained / instructed to prevent harm to the hostages and saw that action as unacceptably threatening. </div></div>

Ummm, how else would we be trained?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperCJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dareposte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I presume the SWAT team was trained / instructed to prevent harm to the hostages and saw that action as unacceptably threatening. </div></div>

Ummm, how else would we be trained? </div></div>

No idea! in this case it looks like the dept. did a good job permitting engagement when they needed to. I wonder if it would have been the same call and outcome in other jurisdictions, or are the policies pretty much standard? I really have no idea since I'm not even remotely involved in any sort of LE, but I do find it interesting how the decisions are made and implemented in these types of critical situations. The dept will probably take heat for the decision to shoot but it was no doubt a good call.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another idiot trying to use violence to shape the world to his liking. Good shooting. </div></div>

Couragewolf -I find that comment rather funny -if you think about

Good job though he was shot -I would conclude he was a mentally ill person -if he wasnt he was certainly a fanatical radical
 
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I cant speak for other Depts but as a general rule SWAT snipers operate under the same rules as any other cop. You use deadly force to prevent serious bodily injury or death to yourself or a third party.

People not familiar with the 'rules' usually assume we have to have authorization ie the proverbial 'green light' to engage. Not true. The 'green light' is given when you have a 'weapons free' situation where you will take a shot at the first available opportunity, regardless of what the suspect is doing. This is a rarity.
 
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I kinda would have liked it if they could have interviewed his crazy ass. People need to see what the tree huggers are like. There are more out there.
 
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with all of the mass murders in schools, offices, malls, etc. etched in our minds, I don't think the agency will get any heat over this. Times have changed as far as the response to these types of incidents.

Good Work if any of you guys are members here!!!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

...-I would conclude he was a mentally ill person -if he wasnt he was certainly a fanatical radical </div></div>

And IMHO, the terrorists that flew planes into the WTC were mentally ill also. Did that make them less dangerous? What was done needed to be done.
 
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I just love happy endings!
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At least he volunteered to have himself removed from the gene pool without taking anyone else with him. Good shooting.

"Hearts and minds. It's what we aim for."
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Though he isn't able to attend an interview, (Good job done, by the way LEO's) I'm hoping that his previous legal appearances are exploited and expounded by the media.

Just the same way that nearly all other things are 'continuously-looped'. This way, all those "environmentalists" and their ilk can relate. And learn.

Yeah, right....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperCJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I cant speak for other Depts but as a general rule SWAT snipers operate under the same rules as any other cop. You use deadly force to prevent serious bodily injury or death to yourself or a third party.

People not familiar with the 'rules' usually assume we have to have authorization ie the proverbial 'green light' to engage. Not true. The 'green light' is given when you have a 'weapons free' situation where you will take a shot at the first available opportunity, regardless of what the suspect is doing. This is a rarity. </div></div>

There are still a lot of people that believe police snipers only shoot when given the "green light". This just common sense, really. If I am "on the gun" and you point a weapon toward a hostage or police officer, you're getting dumped. Period.

Donnie
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They let police use guns in Maryland?!? </div></div>


ROFL.....
 
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Would recommend a strongly worded letter to the Discovery management team may be a safer way to proceed if anybody else out there has any complaints they'd like to air about the Channel's content...........
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The American media is to blame -50CAL must play apart being a media student --it is obvious cheap American reality shows have affected this mans brain enough for him to lose control ! had he lived this argument could have been as good as the twinky defence !

"He demands that the Discovery Channel broadcast daily prime-time shows devoted to "solutions to save the planet,"

perhaps in a game-show format, insisting,

"Make it interesting so people watch and apply solutions!!!!"

haaaaaaaaaaaaa thats funny shit above </div></div>

Ummmm what? GO back to your regularly scheduled program please. Try not to insult the American people over one ass jockey with a bomb suite.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mac the knife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I kinda would have liked it if they could have interviewed his crazy ass. People need to see what the tree huggers are like. There are more out there. </div></div>

Good thing we got to interview Timothy McVeigh so we could see what extreme conservatives are like
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Do you really percieve the world in such a black and white fashion?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shot In The Dark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This guy is but one of a larger contingent of a growing hyper-environmentalist movement. We'll see this again. </div></div>

Somewhere in an alternate forum someone else is saying the same thing about the "sniper" shooting up the ACLU chapters.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mac the knife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I kinda would have liked it if they could have interviewed his crazy ass. People need to see what the tree huggers are like. There are more out there. </div></div>

Good thing we got to interview Timothy McVeigh so we could see what extreme conservatives are like
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Do you really percieve the world in such a black and white fashion? </div></div>

TOUCH'E great comment Couragewolf!!!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mac the knife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I kinda would have liked it if they could have interviewed his crazy ass. People need to see what the tree huggers are like. There are more out there. </div></div>

Good thing we got to interview Timothy McVeigh so we could see what extreme conservatives are like
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Do you really percieve the world in such a black and white fashion? </div></div>

TOUCH'E great comment Couragewolf!!! </div></div>

To be fair, there is a black and white line between people who think that taking hostages of innocent people to garner attention, and people who choose to use logic to fight their battles.

I would definitely buy the sniper a beer and thank him for a job well done if I had the opportunity regardless of what the hostage taker had to say.
 
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Hadn't heard what this guy was pushing until I read this thread, knew he was a tree hugging nutjob though. So he was pushing for sterilization and population control/reduction. Interesting, guess irony's a bitch when it comes around and bites you in the ass. I'll second the beer for the police sniper.

Flyingbullseye
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 50calcruiser</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Um, I thought the greenies were the peaceful ones?

If Mike Rowe was there he would have kicked this guy's ass.</div></div>

No doubt...Mike Rowe is a brick shithouse...he could stomp a mudhole in that guys ass and walk his feet dry. </div></div>

I do like Mike Rowe…but he was an opera singer.

+1 on ridding the gene pool of another idiot.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mac the knife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I kinda would have liked it if they could have interviewed his crazy ass. People need to see what the tree huggers are like. There are more out there. </div></div>

Good thing we got to interview Timothy McVeigh so we could see what extreme conservatives are like
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Do you really percieve the world in such a black and white fashion? </div></div>
Most people know the McVeigh's of the world are dangerous. Everybody thinks the save the planet bunch are just harmless dope smoking hippies. The worst of these folks think the Human race are parasites that need to be wiped out. There are plenty more like this guy.

Hope the Police Sniper suffers no ill effects from taking the reject out. They should throw him a party.
 
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Working in a resort town where development has been targeted by ELF... and in a state that is over-run with environmental extremists and eco-terrorists.... +1 for MactheKnife.

These people represent the number 1 domestic terrorist threat in America. #1 in terms of damage caused. #1 in terms of incidents. #1 in membership.

They are anything but harmless, well-meaning nature lovers. They are dangerous, motivated and well-funded terrorists.

Silver Spring SWAT dealt with this guy correctly in every regard.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
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So I heard this guy died from a <span style="font-weight: bold">terminal case of lead poisoning</span>...wonder what the EPA will have to say about it?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mac the knife</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mac the knife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I kinda would have liked it if they could have interviewed his crazy ass. People need to see what the tree huggers are like. There are more out there. </div></div>

Good thing we got to interview Timothy McVeigh so we could see what extreme conservatives are like
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Do you really percieve the world in such a black and white fashion? </div></div>
Most people know the McVeigh's of the world are dangerous. Everybody thinks the save the planet bunch are just harmless dope smoking hippies. The worst of these folks think the Human race are parasites that need to be wiped out. There are plenty more like this guy.

Hope the Police Sniper suffers no ill effects from taking the reject out. They should throw him a party. </div></div>

If everyone really views things that way then how does this thread even exist? Have you ever even been to Texas? Everytime I go there people think I'm an ELF member and possibly a terrorist just because I'm from Oregon, whilst entirely unconcerned about people firebombing abortion clinics, or killing abortion doctors because of their own ideals.

There just seems to me to be a health dose of double standard that goes around.
 
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I love Texas, and Oregon too. Don't care too much for DFW area though. My favorite place in Texas is the Big bend area. Oregon is still on my list of places to go and stay for a while. Probably won't live that long. Still trying to explore Utah.

Nutjobs intent on violence are all dangerous. This discussion kinda reminds me of the General in the movie Dr. Strangelove that was convinced,"They" were trying to steal His precious body fluids. Crazy is crazy.

Hope no one like that guy has a finger on the button.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another idiot trying to use violence to shape the world to his liking. Good shooting. </div></div>

Couragewolf -I find that comment rather funny -if you think about

Good job though he was shot -I would conclude he was a mentally ill person -if he wasnt he was certainly a fanatical radical </div></div>

why because violence had to be used to stop a violent person? what would you suggest? try to distract him with some beautiful flowers, or a pretty rainbow? Mentally ill? yeah prolly had severe lead poisoning to the brain
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I was kinda hoping to see a Mythbusters solution to this...oh well, I'll look for this on an episode of Dirty Jobs "Today we hang out with a crime scene clean up crew. We're going to see if we can get the brain matter off of the Discovery Channel Logo, I guess you could say he wanted to put his mind to it"
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cybnew</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was kinda hoping to see a Mythbusters solution to this...oh well, I'll look for this on an episode of Dirty Jobs "Today we hang out with a crime scene clean up crew. We're going to see if we can get the brain matter off of the Discovery Channel Logo, I guess you could say he wanted to put his mind to it" </div></div>
That right there is funny! heheh
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fpdsniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> If I am "on the gun" and you point a weapon toward a hostage or police officer, you're getting dumped. Period.</div></div>

There it is...

Now if your Administration only has the balls to back up your decision... I was fortunate throughout my carreer to always have such support. As an administrator, I always remembered how important this was and always supported my officers.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mac the knife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love Texas, and Oregon too. Don't care too much for DFW area though. My favorite place in Texas is the Big bend area. Oregon is still on my list of places to go and stay for a while. Probably won't live that long. Still trying to explore Utah.

Nutjobs intent on violence are all dangerous. This discussion kinda reminds me of the General in the movie Dr. Strangelove that was convinced,"They" were trying to steal His precious body fluids. Crazy is crazy.

Hope no one like that guy has a finger on the button. </div></div>

I'm partial to swamp-ass SE Texas, mostly just because it's what I'm familiar with
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. After a while the sound of the cicadas and tree frogs go from annoying to background.

If you ever find yourself in Oregon look me up I'll buy you a beer. It's a gorgeous place with a lot to offer a visitor, and generally pretty respectable hospitality. Utah is pretty incredible as well I've driven down there a few times. Incredible shooting spots out there as well, although the altitude definitely challenged me.

Violence is the real ill, and I think we definitely both agree that we're thankful there are people out there risking themselves to stem the outpour that comes from all the crazy in this world.

I know that anytime a police sniper takes down some raving douchebag lunatic no matter the ideology it sends the kind of message I can get behind. That in our society the innocent will be protected, and that's something to be proud of.