Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

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winxp_man said:
I have one simple thing to say. Do you honestly think evil, will allow the waking up of a generation of zombies? Do we honestly think that NWO will take place with people that are fully awake? Answer is never! So the fact this happened is not a coincidence, the TPTB used this brainwashed kid to carry out their agenda!
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Christ has a giant vote in this too though, and nothing the world has to offer compares to having his light in your life.

People see that clearly with how Charlie treated other human beings, and they want more of it. It’s no longer enough to attend one of his events now, but to internalize a mighty change in their lives and seek the light of truth and love.

The forces of darkness don’t hold a candle to the Creator.
 
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Threadcutter308 said:
And, I'd love it if we could accommodate Vlad's wishes..........
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Hey Vlad… We’ll give you both Soros’s, Zelinsky and a really nice Lange and Sohn complication moon phase platinum wristwatch in exchange for pulling back from Ukraine and giving us a future free agent spy.

We’ll throw in the FBI agents who made up the Russia Hoax because they ruined our relationship and fucked over your government.

Would you like the Soros’ wrapped in a carpet or a strait jacket? We can make it a Bokara.

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BCP said:
I know right? People are having a tough time coming to terms with what actually happened. A straight white Mormon kid was brainwashed by college and social media into being a terrorist for the democrats. And he used dads deer rifle to do it not a sniper rig or a scary ar15.
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FTR im not having a tough time coming to terms with anything, I was simply asking wtf that object was and someone pointed out it’s likely the mic.

I happen to think he was shot from the front with a CF rifle 150-200 yds away
 
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LRRPF52 said:
Christ has a giant vote in this too though, and nothing the world has to offer compares to having his light in your life.

People see that clearly with how Charlie treated other human beings, and they want more of it. It’s no longer enough to attend one of his events now, but to internalize a might change in their lives and seek the light of truth and love.

The forces of darkness don’t hold a candle to the Creator.
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Amen. We know exactly how all this ends and it only gets worse. The world is sick, and there’s only one thing that’ll fix it. Jesus Christ. We gotta save as many as we can. Charlie was a great example of this. They killed him for preaching the truth. Same thing they did to Jesus, countless Prophets, the Apostles, and millions of other Christian’s. This is a spiritual battle.
 
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Defiantly_Not_Bender said:
I’m just trying to understand if it were related or not. If there is proof it’s not related, I’m more than happy to disregard it.

Why was the fake surrender a thing? By a known Zionist? Is that not a red flag?


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It’s suspicious as fuck this guy was a witness to both 9/11 and Charlie’s murder. Here are the odds:

Step 2: Calculate joint probability

Assuming independence (i.e., no overlap in the groups beyond random chance, which holds for events 24 years apart in different locations):

P(both) = P₁ × P₂ ≈ (3.51 × 10⁻⁴) × (8.7 × 10⁻⁶) = 3.05 × 10⁻⁹.

Step 3: Convert to odds

The odds against this happening to one person are 1 / P(both) ≈ 1 in 328 million.

(This is a rough order-of-magnitude estimate; using 50,000 9/11 witnesses doubles the odds to ~1 in 656 million, while 200,000 halves them to ~1 in 164 million. The exact figure depends on how narrowly you define “eyewitness,” but it remains extraordinarily low either way.)
 
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FourT6and2 said:
I read somewhere there was an exit wound at his back, which might explain the shirt moving. Who knows. That's just rumor.


That is a clip-on mic. Charlie uses a handheld for the live PA and clip-on for video (YouTube uploads).


Please tell me you don't actually believe a cellphone video would capture a bullet in the air traveling thousands of feet per second.

Also... there was nothing behind that tent except a BRICK WALL and Charlie's own people. The tent was right up against the building.
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I posted this earlier on in the thread but watched it lastnight. They break this down frame by frame pretty good.

 
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Defiantly_Not_Bender said:
I’m just trying to understand if it were related or not. If there is proof it’s not related, I’m more than happy to disregard it.

Why was the fake surrender a thing? By a known Zionist? Is that not a red flag?


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He has a history of lurking around anywhere there is anything political going on, and is a far leftist/communist. He's a nothing that is always looking to make himself the center of attention. I would be freaking shocked if this left wing loon wasn't an anti-zionist, and palitango sympathizer. I'm quite sure he supports Antifa, SLPC, and all the lefty Jewish shit. Yes, he's a POS, but probably on Mosad's enemies list rather than anywhere near it. All guesses based on limited information, but that tracks whereas none of the other stuff does. Have no idea about the plane, it IS possible it was coincidence. There were probably a hundred Jews leaving the city at the same time, but I guess they're all in on it? There is zero evidence there was any other shooter, and things seem to have happened as seen on CCTV.
 
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Here's hoping she gets stripped of her rank and drummed out of the Air Force.

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Fig said:
Dude picked his hill to die on, and he's doing a great job of dying.
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Did you watch the whole video? They weren’t able to make a determination by the pictures whether or not he was wearing any. He didn’t think Charlie’s wearing plates either (unless they started making plates with nipples) but His security guards said Charlie always wore plates mainly because Erika wanted him to. I don’t think he was wearing any, but when they slow the frame down on impact, the way his shirt reacts, plus the mark on his shirt right below his throat looks like a possible a ricochet off a high plate impact up into his throat. Most pictures it’s pretty clear he’s not wearing any but that frame by frame from the side shot makes you question it a bit. Was the bullet traveling at a downward angle or upward (ie off a high plate impact). Autopsy will show.
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Hey Vlad… We’ll give you both Soros’s, Zelinsky and a really nice Lange and Sohn complication moon phase platinum wristwatch in exchange for pulling back from Ukraine and giving us a future free agent spy.

We’ll throw in the FBI agents who made up the Russia Hoax because they ruined our relationship and fucked over your government.

Would you like the Soros’ wrapped in a carpet or a strait jacket? We can make it a Bokara.

Sirhr
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You had me at "Lange and Sohn moon phase", Platinum or otherwise........ :eek: :LOL:
 
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HogsLife said:
Did you watch the whole video? They weren’t able to make a determination by the pictures whether or not he was wearing any. He didn’t think Charlie’s wearing plates either (unless they started making plates with nipples) but His security guards said Charlie always wore plates mainly because Erika wanted him to. I don’t think he was wearing any, but when they slow the frame down on impact, the way his shirt reacts, plus the mark on his shirt right below his throat looks like a possible a ricochet off a plate up into his throat. Most pictures it’s pretty clear he’s not wearing any but that frame by frame shot makes you question it a bit. Was the bullet traveling at a downward angle or upward (ie off a high plate impact). Autopsy will show.
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I’ll be surprised if they release an autopsy. NGL
 
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I ran the ballistics on a 165gr .30-06 at that elevation and temperature, and it still has over 2000ft-lbs, even a flat-based soft point with low BC of .387 G1.

Normally when you see a high velocity missile in .30 cal weight classes impact tissue at 2348fps with over 2000ft-lbs, it’s a lot more violent than what we saw. Severe traumatic avulsion, separation of connected tissues, massive blood and tissue splatter all over.

The inside of the tent would have been a blood bath I think.

That’s what still bothers me about the terminal ballistics side of this.

If a rifle shooter used a reduced load, maybe it would manifest that type of injury, but the entrance looks awfully large for a .30 cal.
 
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LRRPF52 said:
Christ has a giant vote in this too though, and nothing the world has to offer compares to having his light in your life.

People see that clearly with how Charlie treated other human beings, and they want more of it. It’s no longer enough to attend one of his events now, but to internalize a mighty change in their lives and seek the light of truth and love.

The forces of darkness don’t hold a candle to the Creator.
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100% agreed. I was making a statement in the physical world on what took place earthly. But over all nothing is out of his hands.

The good book in Revelations tells us what is to come based off of Gods power of foresight, and knowing the humans condition of sin. Humans are corrupt and Gods word about the end times speaks of the sinful nature and how evil humans will be to one another. Flesh plus demons plus satan is an evil combination for sure.
 
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LRRPF52 said:
I ran the ballistics on a 165gr .30-06 at that elevation and temperature, and it still has over 2000ft-lbs, even a flat-based soft point with low BC of .387 G1.

Normally when you see a high velocity missile in .30 cal weight classes impact tissue at 2348fps with over 2000ft-lbs, it’s a lot more violent than what we saw. Severe traumatic avulsion, separation of connected tissues, massive blood and tissue splatter all over.

The inside of the tent would have been a blood bath I think.

That’s what still bothers me about the terminal ballistics side of this.

If a rifle shooter used a reduced load, maybe it would manifest that type of injury, but the entrance looks awfully large for a .30 cal.
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Probably flew right though and didn't expand at all, plus we don't know what ammo he was using could've been FMJ, could've been grandpa's hunting handloads, don't think it's stated. If you've ever hunted you've probably seen deer and elk that were lunged and the bullet goes right through with minimal damage the exit is almost like the entrance. That's why I always go for a shoulder shot tons more stuff there to hit and knock them down.
 
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Redlion said:
A good example of why women are easy victims for "social contagions." They should not be in positions of power.
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Well, there’s a reason Satan went to Eve and not to Adam. He knew Adam would shut him down so he used Eve to get to Adam by preying on her emotions. In turn Adam went against what he knew to be right out of love for Eve.

Satans evil, but he ain’t no dummy…

Men are logical while woman are emotional creatures, both have a place but it’s why God states that they should not be in positions of power / leadership over men, especially In the Church.
 
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HogsLife said:
Well, there’s a reason Satan went to Eve and not to Adam. He knew Adam would shut him down so he used Eve to get to Adam by preying on her emotions. In turn Adam went against what he knew to be right out of love for Eve.

Satans evil, but he ain’t no dummy…

Men are logical while woman are emotional creatures, and why God states that they should not be in positions of power / leadership over men, especially In the Church.
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So I take it, it’s a no to boss babes for you?


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WeR0206 said:
It’s suspicious as fuck this guy was a witness to both 9/11 and Charlie’s murder. Here are the odds:

Step 2: Calculate joint probability

Assuming independence (i.e., no overlap in the groups beyond random chance, which holds for events 24 years apart in different locations):

P(both) = P₁ × P₂ ≈ (3.51 × 10⁻⁴) × (8.7 × 10⁻⁶) = 3.05 × 10⁻⁹.

Step 3: Convert to odds

The odds against this happening to one person are 1 / P(both) ≈ 1 in 328 million.

(This is a rough order-of-magnitude estimate; using 50,000 9/11 witnesses doubles the odds to ~1 in 656 million, while 200,000 halves them to ~1 in 164 million. The exact figure depends on how narrowly you define “eyewitness,” but it remains extraordinarily low either way.)
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A farmer named Wilmer McLean had a farm adjacent to the Bull Run/Manassas battlefield. A cannonball came through the kitchen.

After the battle, he sold his farm and moved his family further South in Virginia to get “as far away from the damn war” as he could.

He bought a farm in Appomattox, Virginia. And four years later, Robert E. Lee signed the instrument of surrender in Wilmer McLean’s front parlor… as Grant had taken over his farmhouse as his HQ.

So long odds are still odds.

But the guy who jumped up and yelled “I did it “certainly seems suspicious. It is very possible. He was part of a Democratic socialist group that was involved. He may also have just been canny enough to realize that whoever shot him needs to get away and that by yelling, I did it he could distract people. And while he was obstructing, justice may have had no prior knowledge.

Either way, his life should be ripped apart and he should get a colonoscopy level interrogation to find out what was going on.

Probably wouldn’t hurt to take a look at air rifle guy as well.

I’m still not convinced there wasn’t a support network of some kind. I am, however, quite convinced that there was no James Bond villain type or Mossad director organizing a hit.

However, a bunch of tranny whack jobs getting together and saying let’s do this… is a whole different ball of wax.

Sirhr
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
A farmer named Wilmer McLean had a farm adjacent to the Bull Run/Manassas battlefield. A cannonball came through the kitchen.

After the battle, he sold his farm and moved his family further South in Virginia to get “as far away from the damn war” as he could.

He bought a farm in Appomattox, Virginia. And four years later, Robert E. Lee signed the instrument of surrender in Wilmer McLean’s front parlor… as Grant had taken over his farmhouse as his HQ.

So long odds are still odds.

But the guy who jumped up and yelled I did it certainly seems suspicious. It is very possible. He was part of a Democratic socialist group that was involved. He may also have just been Kenny enough to realize that whoever shot him needs to get away and that by yelling, I did it he could distract people. And while he was obstructing, justice may have had no prior knowledge.

Either way, his life should be ripped apart and he should get a colonoscopy level interrogation to find out what was going on.

Probably wouldn’t hurt to take a look at air rifle guy as well.

I’m still not convinced there wasn’t a support network of some kind. I am, however, quite convinced that there was no James Bond villain type or Mossad director organizing a hit.

However, a bunch of tranny whack jobs getting together and saying let’s do this… is a whole different ball of wax.

Sirhr
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I get your point but that’s not really a good comparison. Do you think this guy is just one of the unluckiest dudes ever to witness both events? When you add in that he was initially arrested as the assassin the odds get even smaller.

We’re talking at best 1 in 164 million and at worst 1 in 656 million to be a witness of both 9/11 and the Kirk shooting.
 
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cas6969 said:
I guess I'm missing the purpose of the body armor debate.

He's dead, I'm not getting how it matters.
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It would be a first step at correcting some of the mis-steps the fbi has made in other high profile events.

Was there an exit wound? What were his connections? Did his connections have any role in planning this.

After being kept in the dark on the epstein files, the people will want more details
 
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BCP said:
Probably flew right though and didn't expand at all, plus we don't know what ammo he was using could've been FMJ, could've been grandpa's hunting handloads, don't think it's stated. If you've ever hunted you've probably seen deer and elk that were lunged and the bullet goes right through with minimal damage the exit is almost like the entrance. That's why I always go for a shoulder shot tons more stuff there to hit and knock them down.
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I had that happen once hunting northern MN. Clearly heard the impact, my buddy heard it and saw it. Doe took off into the alders.

No blood trail, no spatter, just a little bit of fur. Unfortunately after a couple of hours never did find her.
 
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WeR0206 said:
I get your point but that’s not really a good comparison. Do you think this guy is just one of the unluckiest dudes ever to witness both events? When you add in that he was initially arrested as the assassin the odds get even smaller.

We’re talking at best 1 in 164 million and at worst 1 in 656 million to be a witness of both 9/11 and the Kirk shooting.
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Didn’t this guy also get caught up in some marathon bomb threat deal? I saw a post on it when this first broke loose. Can’t remember if it was this guy or the mistaken identity dude.
 
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Defiantly_Not_Bender said:
I’m just trying to understand if it were related or not. If there is proof it’s not related, I’m more than happy to disregard it.

Why was the fake surrender a thing? By a known Zionist? Is that not a red flag?


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"Akshually," Joseph Smith, founder of LDS, said that the native americans were the lost tribe of Judah, which would make jewish, as well.

Discuss amongst yourselves. Coffee Talk, the number is 444-4444.
 
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RUN8 said:
I had that happen once hunting northern MN. Clearly heard the impact, my buddy heard it and saw it. Doe took off into the alders.

No blood trail, no spatter, just a little bit of fur. Unfortunately after a couple of hours never did find her.
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Same friend of mine did that with an elk we never found it. He hit it good too I was watching saw it right in the proverbial boiler room should've died no problem.
 
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HogsLife said:
Didn’t this guy also get caught up in some marathon bomb threat deal? I saw a post on it when this first broke loose. Can’t remember if it was this guy or the mistaken identity dude.
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He sure did.

Fake Bomb Threat to Utah Marathon

Zinn had no direct role in the actual Boston Marathon bombing (carried out by the Tsarnaev brothers). However, shortly after that attack, he emailed a “joke” bomb threat to organizers of the Salt Lake City Marathon in Utah (scheduled for April 20, 2013), offering to “help place bombs” at the finish line. Amid heightened national tension from the Boston incident, this led to his arrest on second-degree felony charges of making a terrorist threat. He pleaded guilty, received probation, and served no jail time. Reports confirm the threat was fake and not linked to any real plot, but it was treated seriously due to the timing. This is the “fake bomb threat before Utah marathon” referenced—it’s tied to the Boston aftermath but not the bombing itself.

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91Eunozs said:
And the MSM is already trying to frame the shooter as far-right:

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Tyler Robinson: Groyper, Nick Fuentes | Charlie Kirk Shooter

Tyler Robinson, the alleged Charlie Kirk shooter, was a self-identified groyper and a dedicated follower of Nick Fuentes' far-right ideology.
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Unbelievable…
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Hang on...who the fuck is this Nick Fuentes guy and what is a groyper? I've never heard of this before today and all of a sudden I'm seeing it all over. I just read that article and definitely lost some IQ points. WTF
 
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Here are the updated odds when factoring in the same person was also involved in a fake bomb threat after the Boston marathon bombing

Step 2: Calculate joint probability

Assuming independence (i.e., no overlap in the groups beyond random chance, which holds for events spread across 2001, 2013, and 2025 in different locations):

P(all three) = P₁ × P₂ × P₃ ≈ (3.51 × 10⁻⁴) × (8.65 × 10⁻⁶) × (3.16 × 10⁻⁹) = 9.6 × 10⁻¹⁸.

Step 3: Convert to odds

The odds against this happening to one person are 1 / P(all three) ≈ 1 in 104 quadrillion (specifically, 1 in 104,169,400,000,000,000).

(This is a rough order-of-magnitude estimate; varying the 9/11 witness count from 50,000 to 200,000 would adjust the odds between ~1 in 208 quadrillion and ~1 in 52 quadrillion. Population figures are mid-year estimates or projections, and slight variations don’t significantly alter the scale. If we generalized the bomb threat to any hoax rather than this specific one, using ~1,500 annual bomb threat incidents as a baseline would make P₃ ~4.7 × 10⁻⁶, yielding odds of ~1 in 200 billion—but the query specifies this particular hoax, so the single-perpetrator estimate is more precise.)

In the context of George Zinn, this illustrates how extraordinarily rare such a trifecta of connections is—fueling conspiracy speculation
 
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atomic41 said:
Hang on...who the fuck is this Nick Fuentes guy and what is a groyper? I've never heard of this before today and all of a sudden I'm seeing it all over.
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He is a political figure. Talented younger guy. Maybe a little misguided. Especially on Israel. He has steadily been growing his influence over the the last several years
 
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MaximusDecimusMeidius said:
He is a political figure. Talented younger guy. Maybe a little misguided. Especially on Israel. He has steadily been growing his influence over the the last several years
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Ok thanks for that. Based on that article he's the 2nd coming of hitler so I have to assume he's ruffling feathers but not an extremist as they are making him out to be? Or is he?
 
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WeR0206 said:
I get your point but that’s not really a good comparison. Do you think this guy is just one of the unluckiest dudes ever to witness both events? When you add in that he was initially arrested as the assassin the odds get even smaller.

We’re talking at best 1 in 164 million and at worst 1 in 656 million to be a witness of both 9/11 and the Kirk shooting.
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Redlion said:
A good example of why women are easy victims for "social contagions." They should not be in positions of power.
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They should not be calling their boy the feminist leftist pejorative “incel”. With leftist feminist moms like this raising boys, is it any wonder we have problems with them.

They screw up boys, then get simp conservatives to scorn them and repeat the chant incel, incel, incel.

Charlie didn’t do that. He wanted these young men to turn to Jesus, denounce Satan, find a wife and raise a family. He did not measure young men but how much pussy they were slaying.

That is my sermon for today……

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Holliday said:
They should not be calling their boy the feminist leftist pejorative “incel”. With leftist feminist moms like this raising boys, is it any wonder we have problems with them.

They screw up boys, then get simp conservatives to scorn them and repeat the chant incel, incel, incel.

Charlie didn’t do that. He wanted these young men to turn to Jesus, denounce Satan, find a wife and raise a family. He did not measure young men but how much pussy they were slaying.

That is my sermon for today……

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