Someone shot Charlie Kirk

RIP Charlie, prayers to his family and loved ones.

Never heard or saw of him be demeaning towards anyone. He was genuine and really tried to question with thoughtfulness and logic in an effort to reach people and make them think.

He will be missed by many.

Godspeed young sir.
 
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You notice I didn’t mention the same exact/very similar situation with the sides reversed.

The way they died isn’t the issue, the cheering for the death of the “other” is the issue you dense fuck.

If you meant that, type it.
This topic/thread is a detailed example of one more conservative dead because of words.
Implication from previous posts.
Context...
Dense fuck.

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How can the Director of the FBI make such stupid and uninformed posts.

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Look into my eyes.
 
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I hope they catch a viable suspect.

I hope they say F the system and take them to a place they can get a proper interrogation and so they can't Epstein themselves.

Follow the money.

I'm writing down a name of the master and taking a time stamped picture.
 
Wouldn't be surprised.

I will differ with you there.
A 12yr old that has zero gun experience can go to the internet and get bare bone basics pretty easily. A rack grade 5.56 with cheap optic fired from a rested position would be pretty easy to get a torso hit at 200. Especially with a physically big dude like Charlie sitting still and squared off to the shooter's position.

I guess, it doesn't matter. . . .
Just like "how many licks to get the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop, the world will never know".
I agree. That said because I think the neck shot from 200 yards was a deadly miss. The shooter was "probably" aiming center mass or a head shot (doubtful). So, looking for a relatively inexperienced shooter or an average experienced mediocre shooter.
 
Isn't it crazy how there is alleged footage of a prone shooter on that roof yet no cameras on all the campus caught him going up there? Surely the entrance to roof access is internal and has security footage in the hallways and stairwells, especially mid day on campus.


Yet they waste their on site resources arresting a kid with a bb gun not even closely matching the shooter profile or rifle.

Sadly this is seeming like another case of something being all fucky.
 
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Isn't it crazy how there is alleged footage of a prone shooter on that roof yet no cameras on all the campus caught him going up there? Surely the entrance to roof access is internal and has security footage in the hallways and stairwells, especially mid day on campus.


Yet they waste their on site resources arresting a kid with a bb gun not even closely matching the shooter profile or rifle.

Sadly this is seeming like another case of something being all fucky.
Have you messed with many security systems? The majority seem to sometimes work when you need them
 
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That’s all it is, an opinion lol. Cheering for death is wrong on either side it’s pretty easy.

You’re wrong cheering even if someone deserved death, more when you complain about another doing it to your “team”
What? Innocent people dying is the same as guilty as fuck people dying? Clarify? The two are not the same. Some commie spitting his dumb bile is still innocent. Especially if he’s trying to convince people who disagree. There just aren’t any because it a fucking retarded ideology. Charlie Kirk was killed because they lost every argument with him, because he pointed out reality.
 
Yes, believe it or not there are many hypocrites on this site
And you're missing the point entirely brother.

One side is stacking bodies and we all know it.

Leftists dancing on a conservatives grave who died of cancer, or a conservative doing the same to a leftist isn't even remotely comparable to what just happened today..

Its about time people on our side started getting blood boiling enraged.
Cuckservatives preaching otherwise can go fuck themselves, their type is why our country is in this mess.
 
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What? Innocent people dying is the same as guilty as fuck people dying? Clarify? The two are not the same. Some commie spitting his dumb bile is still innocent. Especially if he’s trying to convince people who disagree. There just aren’t any because it a fucking retarded ideology. Charlie Kirk was killed because they lost every argument with him, because he pointed out reality.
I’m not rehashing the same conversation with everyone who quotes me, go read lol
 
at ~130yds and maybe 30' of elevation how much would it really impact the shot? I'm asking because I don't know. Flat land around here.
The angle is determinative up or down. Gravity acts from the center of the earth, so any angle means less distance to the center of the earth. It’s a straight percentage from 0 to 90 deg.
 
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And you're missing the point entirely brother.

One side is stacking bodies and we all know it.

Leftists dancing on a conservatives grave who died of cancer, or a conservative doing the same to a leftist isn't even remotely comparable to what just happened today..

Its about time people on our side started getting blood boiling enraged.
Cuckservatives preaching otherwise can go fuck themselves, their type is why our country is in this mess.
Death is death, same outcome…you’re dead. It’s not something for either side to cheer about it’s pretty easy when you leave feelings out of it.
 
Isn't it crazy how there is alleged footage of a prone shooter on that roof yet no cameras on all the campus caught him going up there? Surely the entrance to roof access is internal and has security footage in the hallways and stairwells, especially mid day on campus.
To be fair, any internal CCTV security camera video is going to not be publicly available. It would be silly to think you would be seeing even a few seconds of any security system video at this point.

So, just because you haven't seen it splattered all over X or here doesn't mean there isn't video of the shooter or that it isn't being reviewed/used.
 
Need to clone J Edgar Hoover at least he was competent and hated commies

Hoover was anything but competent... except at blackmail and making sure he took credit for everything good and buried everything bad. Sadly, his legacy is not one of "LE Greatness."

He did hate commies, though. So I'll give him that!

And in defense of 'all' the LE... right now things are really confused. They are getting a ton of info... And Patel was probably told they had a suspect in custody.

We all want info now, now now. When we get it unvetted, premature or from the instant news cycle... we blame the folks who are undoubtedly flat out following leads, mostly into dead-ends. Remember the Boston Bombing? 100 hours of work to get the bomber(s). That was almost 4 days of running stuff down. It's not even been 10 hours.

Two folks questioned and released? One of whom (blue shirt guy) supposedly was claiming "I did it"? And I thought I heard in the press conference... is still being held for obstruction but has been cleared as the shooter? If not for the Interwebz and the "Jump on it" news cycle... those investigative blind alleys would not even be a blip on the radar.

Even here on the 'Hide... the 'narrative' has evolved minute by minute from the first post. Lots of good info here. Lots of things that have not lasted as new information came in. (Great job on the Air gun ID, folks! I'd expect no less from this group!)

Give the folks on the ground a chance! Including Patel who is 1800 miles away and probably buried in conflicting info. And he didn't say "We got him." He/The FBI said they have a suspect in custody. Which they did. Right now everyone is a 'suspect.' Oops. In chaos, things happen. Even to the FBI.

And, yeah, that unhinged post that is a few pages back saying "Stuff is going to happen tomorrow" is one thing they need to run to ground fast! If that's the shooter or part of a conspiracy... wow. If. But lots of keyboard crazies probably post crap like that daily. So... we'll see if that matters or if the wacko poster is just going to get a Colonoscopy and then get sent home after being smacked on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper (Do they have those any more?).

Give it time. Following it all online and in the news is like a bloodsport. I get it. But it's still just 'sport' on our end.

Sirhr

Edit: And Patel's statement was more specific than I thought... so, yeah. Unfortunate and premature and he should not have said "We have the man who killed Charlie Kirk in Custody"... But my above comments stand... lots of confusion.
 
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To be fair, any internal CCTV security camera video is going to not be publicly available. It would be silly to think you would be seeing even a few seconds of any security system video at this point.

So, just because you haven't seen it splattered all over X or here doesn't mean there isn't video of the shooter or that it isn't being reviewed/used.
My hope would just be that they'd release to the public to nab that bastard. A literal billion people may see that person in the next week compared to just the police/investigators.
 
Don't really think this a red vs blue topic. What we saw today is trying to silence and put fear in the heart of free speech in the country. If I saw a democrat in the same seat as Kirk fighting peacefully for what they believe in I would be equally disgusted, and heart wrenched. At a campus in front of young minds of all places.
Your words might have more meaning and power if left wing speakers were regularly denied an audience, or intimidated, or told to pay for tens of thousands of dollars for security against the mobs.

But no, this has been entirely the left denying an audience to any right leaning speaker. So, it is very much a left vs. right issue. The left wishes to silence speech they dislike, while the right, epitomized by Charlie, welcomes debate.

And when the right is too successful and cannot be silenced any other way, then the left kills them.

Wake up and see what's in front of you.
 
That’s all it is, an opinion lol. Cheering for death is wrong on either side it’s pretty easy.

You’re wrong cheering even if someone deserved death, more when you complain about another doing it to your “team”

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You’re probably right about that.

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Don’t compare a political commentator to Jesus

After all, we are quite the tribalists that deify our champions and vilify the other.

There’s more than enough evidence to show there’s a lot of malice coming from both sides.

Right on Left, Left on Right.

Imagine, seeing Left on Left as well as Right on Right vitriol.
 
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Kirk went behind enemy lines regularly and looked evil in the face. I believe he knew the risk. He is with his creator tonight.

I don't think the neck shot was a miss. It was done for maximum effect by a professional. It was meant to instill fear in the next person that might pick up the flag and carry on Kirk's cause.
 
we'll have to agree to disagree.
when a dude hacking people up is taken down, i will not feel bad if i have feelings of relief and satisfaction.
when a loving husband and father is assassinated and you cheer, that is at another fucking level. jmho.
yea,and he won't/can't find one rejoicing by conserv people of an assassination of a lefty, that is because they don't/haven't happened. Seth Rich,Foster,Brown were not assassination. but the usual Clinton murders. most other lt big shots deaths were not assassinations-simple murder always by the lt.
 
TRUMP on Charlie


Trump is right about the error demonizing those with whom you disagree. I would like to make the distinction that sometimes, however, you may actually be facing a demon. You don't have to demonize a demon. They already be doin' demon stuff.
 
Hoover was anything but competent... except at blackmail and making sure he took credit for everything good and buried everything bad. Sadly, his legacy is not one of "LE Greatness."

He did hate commies, though. So I'll give him that!

And in defense of 'all' the LE... right now things are really confused. They are getting a ton of info... And Patel was probably told they had a suspect in custody.

We all want info now, now now. When we get it unvetted, premature or from the instant news cycle... we blame the folks who are undoubtedly flat out following leads, mostly into dead-ends. Remember the Boston Bombing? 100 hours of work to get the bomber(s). That was almost 4 days of running stuff down. It's not even been 10 hours.

Two folks questioned and released? One of whom (blue shirt guy) supposedly was claiming "I did it"? And I thought I heard in the press conference... is still being held for obstruction but has been cleared as the shooter? If not for the Interwebz and the "Jump on it" news cycle... those investigative blind alleys would not even be a blip on the radar.

Even here on the 'Hide... the 'narrative' has evolved minute by minute from the first post. Lots of good info here. Lots of things that have not lasted as new information came in. (Great job on the Air gun ID, folks! I'd expect no less from this group!)

Give the folks on the ground a chance! Including Patel who is 1800 miles away and probably buried in conflicting info. And he didn't say "We got him." He/The FBI said they have a suspect in custody. Which they did. Right now everyone is a 'suspect.' Oops. In chaos, things happen. Even to the FBI.

And, yeah, that unhinged post that is a few pages back saying "Stuff is going to happen tomorrow" is one thing they need to run to ground fast! If that's the shooter or part of a conspiracy... wow. If. But lots of keyboard crazies probably post crap like that daily. So... we'll see if that matters or if the wacko poster is just going to get a Colonoscopy and then get sent home after being smacked on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper (Do they have those any more?).

Give it time. Following it all online and in the news is like a bloodsport. I get it. But it's still just 'sport' on our end.

Sirhr
Let’s all just forget I made a map before anyone else did….


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Downhill AND uphill shots are closer and hit high. My point.
at the angles all of this took place… not adjusting for a mediocre sloped shot is not going to be so significant that the bullet misses POA by several inches. A 200 yard across the ground shot at a difference of 40 feet in elevation… assuming the shooter used something like a range finder to determine straight line distance… that only account for hardly 2 feet. The POI is not going to shift several inches from POA if it’s a supersonic full power rifle round.
 
Jesus also got pissed off, took the time to make a weapon (a whip) and beat the evildoers until they fled from their livelihoods and left the temple.

Get the fuck out of here with your weak, pathetic, turn the other cheek, Boomer take on Christianity.

Go get your testosterone checked.
Thats cute.

When I came here to commiserate Charlie's graduation, I fully expected the ignorant, vapid, mindless , clowns, (you) to rear their ugly heads. Sho nuff.

On the other side, a member here, who I respect a lot (not you) agreed with me.

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It's easy to rip things out of context to justify your hate, I'll pass, I cant afford the wages of hate,. but I love being hated, because hate and other emotions are energy you send out. If I laugh at you, then I turn the energy for my profit and it makes me stronger, and you weaker.

I'll give you more quotes and know its heaping coals on a fire, LOL.

In the Old Testament times, the word 'judge' actually meant 'condemn', as in "Condemn not lest you be condemed." Or, "As you forgive you will be forgiven." Unlike yourself, I'm not perfect. I've done a lot I needed forgiven for, believe me, destroyed a few lives, so I've learned the hard lesson about it.

Now, you can spend a lot of time atttacking me with your stupidity, while I exit the Pit, and go back to the rest of the Hide where stupidity of your level is usually not permitted.