The Fix from Q

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It was a 22” 6.5cm but with a suppressor, it was just too long to carry around for hunting. Chopped to 17.5” and still shoots sub .5 moa. View attachment 7500525

How does this balance/feel now at 17.5"? Have you tried/handled the 16" light contour in comparison? I've been debating for like a year+ on chopping my 22" 6.5 down because the 16" .308 just feels so much more handy - I probably just need to get it done.
 
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How does this balance/feel now at 17.5"? Have you tried/handled the 16" light contour in comparison? I've been debating for like a year+ on chopping my 22" 6.5 down because the 16" .308 just feels so much more handy - I probably just need to get it done.
I’ve heard that it really shines with the slimmer contour. I wouldn’t mind picking up a .308 barrel just to have the caliber option but I have not handled one personally. With a can, it’s front heavy. I can hit a 10” steel plate at 300 yards standing up but I have to use my bipod as a foregrip.
 

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How does this balance/feel now at 17.5"? Have you tried/handled the 16" light contour in comparison? I've been debating for like a year+ on chopping my 22" 6.5 down because the 16" .308 just feels so much more handy - I probably just need to get it done.
Embrace the Shortys!
16" fluted bartlein 6.5 creed
 

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Anyone have their FIx cerakoted? I can remember one, maybe two throughout this thread. Any others? Post up some pictures if you have.
 

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Not a big fan of q as a company. The honey badger was their original claim to fame and it was a poor prototype of the sig rattler made famous by call of duty. Everything they sell is overpriced and you can build a 6.5 on a defiance action in whatever stock or chassis you want with a bartlein barrel for the same price.
 
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Not a big fan of q as a company. The honey badger was their original claim to fame and it was a poor prototype of the sig rattler made famous by call of duty. Everything they sell is overpriced and you can build a 6.5 on a defiance action in whatever stock or chassis you want with a bartlein barrel for the same price.

Maybe not your bag, but the market doesn't think their prices are too high. People like innovation, putative or not, and they're willing to pay and backorder at Q's prices.

Options are nice though; hard to argue with all the good stuff available.
 

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Maybe not your bag, but the market doesn't think their prices are too high. People like innovation, putative or not, and they're willing to pay and backorder at Q's prices.

Options are nice though; hard to argue with all the good stuff available.

What is innovative about the fix? It seems like a chassis bolt gun. The owner worked for sig and ripped them off.
 
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What is innovative about the fix? It seems like a chassis bolt gun. The owner worked for sig and ripped them off.

Hey, friend. Read by message--"putative or not." I'm not a q apologist. I'm just taking issue with your original statement broadly applied on a basic economics basis. You can dump on the fix, but it's still a pretty neat gun with unique design elements that differ from other bolt chassis offering--firing mechanism, bolt throw, etc.
 
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Hey, friend. Read by message--"putative or not." I'm not a q apologist. I'm just taking issue with your original statement broadly applied on a basic economics basis. You can dump on the fix, but it's still a pretty neat gun with unique design elements that differ from other bolt chassis offering--firing mechanism, bolt throw, etc.

Yeah the way they engineered the trigger alone is awesome. Safest trigger on the market. you can put it on a pencil and spin it and it will never stop in the same place. People really don't understand the engineering that went into this gun. If you haven't listen to Jay's PewScience PodCast about his trip there building his Q guns.
 

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Not a big fan of q as a company. The honey badger was their original claim to fame and it was a poor prototype of the sig rattler made famous by call of duty. Everything they sell is overpriced and you can build a 6.5 on a defiance action in whatever stock or chassis you want with a bartlein barrel for the same price.
Didn't KB make the original Honey Badger at AAC long before the Sig Rattler? Or is there a much longer history to the Rattler I've not heard?
 

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What is innovative about the fix? It seems like a chassis bolt gun. The owner worked for sig and ripped them off.

I ordered my fix three years ago, can you even get a sig yet? It has come out that one of Q's engineers went to Sig and took his persoanl fix with him over there. So who ripped off who?
 

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I ordered my fix three years ago, can you even get a sig yet? It has come out that one of Q's engineers went to Sig and took his persoanl fix with him over there. So who ripped off who?
I think people don't really understand the timeline for things and that most of the Q team worked for sig for a while so they think that they are just ripping off SIG when in fact they were the ones that designed the products while at SIG....Plus it's just fun to hate on Q still.
 

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I think people don't really understand the timeline for things and that most of the Q team worked for sig for a while so they think that they are just ripping off SIG when in fact they were the ones that designed the products while at SIG....Plus it's just fun to hate on Q still.

Very true, plus it probably would have happened anyway with the way the crossover market is working these days.

People don't like KB because he doesn't like to take anyone's shit from what I have seen, I like that about him, rifle issues aside.

I checked and was wrong about my order date, it was 4 years ago. So this rifle has been in the works for probably 5 years now.
 
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Who has tried a 16" or 18" proof cf 6.5 barrel and was the juice worth the squeeze? The 22" is lights out accurate but there's not denying it handled better with the pencil 308 other than recoil.

With the CF barrel the sling mount can't be used on the rail because of the barrel od correct?
 

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Who has tried a 16" or 18" proof cf 6.5 barrel and was the juice worth the squeeze? The 22" is lights out accurate but there's not denying it handled better with the pencil 308 other than recoil.

With the CF barrel the sling mount can't be used on the rail because of the barrel od correct?
I use the sling mount with a proof carbon, just check the screws while you're installing. If they are too long shave them down a bit with a file. Mine did not have any issues.

Speaking of sling mount, anyone have issues with theirs? I hate the 1/4 turn stoppers in it, wish it was a free spin like most others... oh well, time to break out the dremel :D
 

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It’s back and I’m finally in town long enough to get it out tomorrow. I’ll post the results when I’m done. Something about a pinch spacer? I don’t know what that does, but apparently if you get a bad one the rifle doesn’t like it. Time will tell.
 

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It’s back and I’m finally in town long enough to get it out tomorrow. I’ll post the results when I’m done. Something about a pinch spacer? I don’t know what that does, but apparently if you get a bad one the rifle doesn’t like it. Time will tell.
I hope they checked the muffler bearing while it was in.
 

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Not a big fan of q as a company. The honey badger was their original claim to fame and it was a poor prototype of the sig rattler made famous by call of duty. Everything they sell is overpriced and you can build a 6.5 on a defiance action in whatever stock or chassis you want with a bartlein barrel for the same price.
Well... Sig must think the design is good enough to put out a copy (even if it's quite a bit cheaper). I wonder if the economy of scale makes it easier for Sig to produce.
 
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Well... Sig must think the design is good enough to put out a copy (even if it's quite a bit cheaper). I wonder if the economy of scale makes it easier for Sig to produce.
Q got famous for the honey badger. The rattler is a significantly better system than the honey badger. I owned a noveske n4pdw which is essentially a honey badger and Uses the same flimsy stock and it was a piece of junk compared to the rattler I sold it to buy. The fix is a cool looking rifle but doesn’t do anything special I don’t see how the price tag is justifiable for what you are actually getting.
 
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Q got famous for the honey badger. The rattler is a significantly better system than the honey badger. I owned a noveske n4pdw which is essentially a honey badger and Uses the same flimsy stock and it was a piece of junk compared to the rattler I sold it to buy. The fix is a cool looking rifle but doesn’t do anything special I don’t see how the price tag is justifiable for what you are actually getting.
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Got it zeroed and it seems to like the hornady 140 eldm (left) and copper creek 130 eldm (right). Only had an hour to shoot so there was some mirage off the trash panda, but I'm very happy with the way it's shooting factory hornady 140's. If I can get some powder I'm sure it will be even better but I can't complain about the 5 shot group with the 140 eldm (except for the fact I pulled the first shot and the next 4 went in that little group.) As far as I'm concerned this rifle is great. Just needed its nuts pinched and spaced correctly, hey I know what it's like!
 

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Not a big fan of q as a company. The honey badger was their original claim to fame and it was a poor prototype of the sig rattler made famous by call of duty. Everything they sell is overpriced and you can build a 6.5 on a defiance action in whatever stock or chassis you want with a bartlein barrel for the same price.
Wow, your timeline is laughably off. AAC was doing the HoneyBadger before Sig ever considered doing the Rattler. This is public knowledge.
 
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My observations of the bolts compared before installing.
Not a huge size difference, but some useful geometry difference in there possibly.

Hopefully the trace is self explanatory
Wow, really useful comparison, thanks for this. What is your impression so far?