The Fix from Q

[PlinkIt]

Wow, really useful comparison, thanks for this. What is your impression so far?

Haven't done much with it other than about 40 dry fires off the deck.

It seems like the little hook shape under the tip is a little more useful for the way I normally run my bolt. I don't know what it's called but I tend to keep my hands on the right side of the grip (floating thumb) and just blade my pointer finger up and pull back kind of with the side of my hand and finger... That wasn't working well for me as I'd slip off the side but I had to learn to put my thumb on top of it and actually grab ahold to run the bolt. Seems like the little hook kind of lets me treat it like my other bolts.

It's not enough to make any leverage difference or anything like that from what I can tell

But again I'm only a few dry fires into using it, and I'm not any kind of a pro

 

[newguy2k3v2]

I got mine and popped in it to dry fire and run the bolt a little bit.... I don't think I'm gonna like it. The factory handle with 7/8" delrin ball on the end that I've been using is more natural and easier to hang on to through manipulation.

 

[craigos]

i like the extended handle a great deal. Put one on my fix 6.5cm and minifix 224v rifles. I found the extra leverage helped a great deal

 

[PlinkIt]

...The factory handle with 7/8" delrin ball on the end...

Mind sharing a picture? Also how close it clears the folded stock?

Few of us might have a factory handle laying around to tinker with...

 

[The King]

Q got famous for the honey badger. The rattler is a significantly better system than the honey badger. I owned a noveske n4pdw which is essentially a honey badger and Uses the same flimsy stock and it was a piece of junk compared to the rattler I sold it to buy. The fix is a cool looking rifle but doesn’t do anything special I don’t see how the price tag is justifiable for what you are actually getting.

I thought that way too. I probably have every rifle the Q fix is a competitor to. Including the Cross.

The Q stomps their asses. Even though its expensive and a bit gimmicky.

 

[claytonm]

Mind sharing a picture? Also how close it clears the folded stock?

Few of us might have a factory handle laying around to tinker with...

Just go back 50 pages, it's probably in here somewhere, haha.

Not @newguy2k3v2 but here are some pics of another member's mods on page 78/79 of this thread: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/the-fix-from-q.6264034/post-7999026

 

[Gallente]

Anyone knows where to get the full length arca rail for the fix? Many thanks.

 

[newguy2k3v2]

Just go back 50 pages, it's probably in here somewhere, haha.

Not @newguy2k3v2 but here are some pics of another member's mods on page 78/79 of this thread: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/the-fix-from-q.6264034/post-7999026

I think mine may be a 3/4" ball and the stock folds with the bolt down like normal

 

[PlinkIt]

I'd be much more interested in seeing what could clear the folder with the bolt closed

If we could mount a mini knob on the end of the factory unit it might be worth trying... I think I remember Kampfeld having a little tiny custom knob called the campfire

 

[HayStax]

Anyone knows where to get the full length arca rail for the fix? Many thanks.

I have plates from Sawtooth Rifles on both of mine - you might contact them and ask for a full length version.

 

[BamaSE]

Have one on the way. Is there a Q-sert sling mount included in the kit? Or do I just need to go ahead and order?Thanks.

 

[sremmal]

Have one on the way. Is there a Q-sert sling mount included in the kit? Or do I just need to go ahead and order?Thanks.

I had to order mine.

 

[BamaSE]

I had to order mine.

Thanks! Just making sure before I spent mo $$$$$

 

[BamaSE]

Anybody running a S&B Polar T96 2.5-10x50mm/34mm tube on their Fix?
If so please advise on ring brand and height.
Thanks!

 

[minorsubplot]

Anybody running a S&B Polar T96 2.5-10x50mm/34mm tube on their Fix?
If so please advise on ring brand and height.
Thanks!

If you have the full pic rail up top, you'll probably need 1.25" rings. Q recommends the American Precision rings, which come in 34mm as well.

 

[minorsubplot]

If you have the full pic rail up top, you'll probably need 1.25" rings. Q recommends the American Precision rings, which come in 34mm as well.

With an eotech vudu with a 50mm objective, there isn't much more clearance than a stick of gum. It's a nice fit.

 

[BamaSE]

If you have the full pic rail up top, you'll probably need 1.25" rings. Q recommends the American Precision rings, which come in 34mm as well.

Thanks for the lead, will check into the APAs.

 

[minorsubplot]

Has anyone used the standard profile 16" barrel (6.5 or 308) for multi-day courses or competitions? I'm wondering if anyone saw any issues shooting 100-130 rounds or so per day (other than shoulder bruises if you don't like the stock pad). How did accuracy hold up with sustained strings of fire?

 

[Rootshot]

Has anyone polished the sear surfaces or replaced springs inside the bolt to try and lighten the trigger pull. I'm spoiled by using a Triggertech on my 700 clone and find the Fix trigger a bit heavy when I'm really focusing on accuracy.

 

[Brasscow]

IMO the first stage is too light and second stage too heavy. I don’t mind the total trigger weight. I haven’t looked for a solution, though.

 

[nortac]

Looking for some load data on a 6.5 Q Fix 16" Proof barrel. Wanting to use the 123 SST's. I have H4350, Varget, CFE223, 2000-MR, R22, 4000-MR and some others. Anyone used these combos with success?

 

[White Mamba]

39.5 varget
43.5 h4350

 

[nortac]

39.5 varget
43.5 h4350

Awesome!
Gives me something to work with! Thanks!

 

[Kevin Brittingham]

Not a big fan of q as a company. The honey badger was their original claim to fame and it was a poor prototype of the sig rattler made famous by call of duty. Everything they sell is overpriced and you can build a 6.5 on a defiance action in whatever stock or chassis you want with a bartlein barrel for the same price.

Ignorance.

 

[Kevin Brittingham]

What is innovative about the fix? It seems like a chassis bolt gun. The owner worked for sig and ripped them off.

So ignorant. It’s not a chassis gun. Sig ripped me off...and that didn’t age well considering the recalls and bullshit. The innovation...6 pounds, 45 degree bolt throw, folding sock, easy caliber and barrel change, sear in the bolt assembly (maybe Sig should’ve copied that?), different length top rail, muzzle taper, safe/balanced trigger, AR ergonomics, etc.

 

[Kevin Brittingham]

Well... Sig must think the design is good enough to put out a copy (even if it's quite a bit cheaper). I wonder if the economy of scale makes it easier for Sig to produce.

Sig didn’t copy the right stuff. They cut corners. Two recalls so far. Hacks.

 

[Kevin Brittingham]

Q got famous for the honey badger. The rattler is a significantly better system than the honey badger. I owned a noveske n4pdw which is essentially a honey badger and Uses the same flimsy stock and it was a piece of junk compared to the rattler I sold it to buy. The fix is a cool looking rifle but doesn’t do anything special I don’t see how the price tag is justifiable for what you are actually getting.

Such ignorance. We are famous for innovation. The Rattler is too heavy and can’t be suppressed and maintain reliability...read the manual. “Flimsy”...never seen a failed one. You? The Noveske is NOTHING like the Honey Badger.

 

[HenryTheAce]

Me waiting for all the replies

 

[T-TurtleWang]

Oh shit!

 

[Stoweit]

Making popcorn and grabbing a fresh brew. Carry on please.

 

[Frankr]

Just my 0.02..... make the next Fix a straight pull
I think the straight pull from Merkel (spelling) is short enough.

Don’t care about the drama but it is innovative. Kudos to them for risking their business to make it.

 

[BamaSE]

^^^
This! I second the motion for a straight pull bolt Fix!

 

[teddyw19]

Such ignorance. We are famous for innovation. The Rattler is too heavy and can’t be suppressed and maintain reliability...read the manual. “Flimsy”...never seen a failed one. You? The Noveske is NOTHING like the Honey Badger.

I owned a n4pdw which has the same recoil system. Was not a fan. felt like a pain in my cheek every shot. Doesn’t the noveske use the same operating system and stock? I prefer piston systems. Find them to be significantly cleaner to run. Because you designed these things you might be a little close but

Such ignorance. We are famous for innovation. The Rattler is too heavy and can’t be suppressed and maintain reliability...read the manual. “Flimsy”...never seen a failed one. You? The Noveske is NOTHING like the Honey Badger.

how is the noveske and the hb different?I undestrand you designed the hb and it might seem extremely different to you as an engineer but as an enthusiast it seems like the operating system is the same along with the stock/brace. The finish is different? My rattler shoots softer and I run it suppressed with a dead air sandman s (best can on the market) and it seems to not have any malfunctions and runs significantly cleaner than the n4pdw. I am not an engineer I am an enthusiast.

 

[teddyw19]

So ignorant. It’s not a chassis gun. Sig ripped me off...and that didn’t age well considering the recalls and bullshit. The innovation...6 pounds, 45 degree bolt throw, folding sock, easy caliber and barrel change, sear in the bolt assembly (maybe Sig should’ve copied that?), different length top rail, muzzle taper, safe/balanced trigger, AR ergonomics, etc.

Nothing revolutionary about a folding stock and easy barrel change, carbon fiber barrels have been out for years. It’s cool that you made minor changes to a platform that is great but my argument is I can make a gun that is just as good with a switch lug adapter for less money. Most of what you listed have been done before you just put it all together

 

[minorsubplot]

Nothing revolutionary about a folding stock and easy barrel change, carbon fiber barrels have been out for years. It’s cool that you made minor changes to a platform that is great but my argument is I can make a gun that is just as good with a switch lug adapter for less money. Most of what you listed have been done before you just put it all together (emphasis added)

I'm not going to argue with any of your premises, but it seems like you are kind of making @Kevin Brittingham 's point for him: Q/He "put it all together" as you say. The Fix is like the Lego version of a rifle; and my youngbloods and I still dig the Legos. Ridiculous ease of configuring exactly what you want, or just run it as is and know it will work well. It doesn't need to compete with consumer-spec builds or heavy OEM offerings.

A total newb can switch out from 6.5 to 308 (or 8.6 Blackout if @Kevin Brittingham will get out of the Hot Tub Q&A Sessions), change up the top rail if you want to run in-line NV/thermal or go minimal with the short rail and just a scope. You just need a single torx wrench (and a barrel tool if you want to swap barrels) to handle every adjustment to rails, stock, etc. Q-sert mounts also seem more solid than m-lok without being too portly.

I don't view consumers going out and gathering parts for a spec build as a close competitor for the Fix. The Fix is a one-stop-shop for a good rifle. That's the whole point: we, the consumers, who don't have the time or inclination--do not have to waste our time searching the interwebz for the right TriggerTech trigger package, a particular chassis/folding stock, a particular barrel config, a specific bolt action, make sure the accessories will be able to mount to the handguard, accurize/bed barrels, etc.

Similarly, the value proposition for the Fix is still stupid high given the street price is around or not too much more than off-the-shelf chassis guns from other companies like Tikka or AI. And, those guns are weighing in closer to 10-12 lbs rather than 6-7lbs for the Fix.

(ramblings while I avoid real work)

 

[Gallente]

So ignorant. It’s not a chassis gun. Sig ripped me off...and that didn’t age well considering the recalls and bullshit. The innovation...6 pounds, 45 degree bolt throw, folding sock, easy caliber and barrel change, sear in the bolt assembly (maybe Sig should’ve copied that?), different length top rail, muzzle taper, safe/balanced trigger, AR ergonomics, etc.

Any plan on releasing a canted top rail for the Fix that doesn't touch the handguard?

 

[Kevin Brittingham]

I owned a n4pdw which has the same recoil system. Was not a fan. felt like a pain in my cheek every shot. Doesn’t the noveske use the same operating system and stock? I prefer piston systems. Find them to be significantly cleaner to run. Because you designed these things you might be a little close but

how is the noveske and the hb different?I undestrand you designed the hb and it might seem extremely different to you as an engineer but as an enthusiast it seems like the operating system is the same along with the stock/brace. The finish is different? My rattler shoots softer and I run it suppressed with a dead air sandman s (best can on the market) and it seems to not have any malfunctions and runs significantly cleaner than the n4pdw. I am not an engineer I am an enthusiast.

The stock is the same, Noveske did their own carrier and recoil system.

HB is a pound or so lighter weight than the Noveske and Rattler. The Rattler will not last long term with a silencer, which is why Sig does not warranty it.

The HB uses an adjustable gas block, fast twist barrel, and muzzle taper. The Noveske uses a larger barrel port to ensure operation. We don’t do that. As a result, the recoil does not feel the same.

Dead Air does not make the best cans in any class, but that depends on how you define “best” I suppose. They are a S&W, Ruger brand IMO.

Most gas and debris comes thru the barrel, not the gas system when shooting when a silencer. This why the MP-5SD is dirty shooting. Pistons are louder, heavier, more parts, etc. There’s occasionally a place for that, and maybe a 5” 300BLK without a silencer is it...

 

[Kevin Brittingham]

Nothing revolutionary about a folding stock and easy barrel change, carbon fiber barrels have been out for years. It’s cool that you made minor changes to a platform that is great but my argument is I can make a gun that is just as good with a switch lug adapter for less money. Most of what you listed have been done before you just put it all together

Agreed. Kinda. We aren’t using a chassis. 6 pounds. Unibody receiver. 45 degree bolt throw. Sear in the bolt (first time ever), AR ergonomics, tapered muzzle, barrel extension, the folding stock uses a hinges that continues to wedge as it wears, quick change bolt handle, etc. Basically, get real...

 

[Kevin Brittingham]

Any plan on releasing a canted top rail for the Fix that doesn't touch the handguard?

I don’t know

 

[M4guru]

Tagged to learn how a switch lug 700 in someone’s random aluminum chassis at 14 pounds is the same as a Fix.

 

[BamaSE]

One more suggested tweak for the V2 (other than straight pull bolt).....some accommodation for thermal scopes with a PVS14 eyepiece and limited eye relief.....think Trijicon and N-vision. My Trijicon Reap is very functional, but if I could gain 1/2-1” of eye relief it would be perfect. Not sure if this is possible given the bolt travel back to the adjustable comb does not give any variance. An extended picatinny rail over the bolt shroud would probably require a higher rail height. Not sure the solution but it would sure make this platform a desirable choice amongst night hunters using dedicated US made thermal scopes and not clip ons on a bolt rifle.

 

[Supersubes]

Installing a couple of proof prefits for some customers. Looks like they’ve changed the tenon for a shouldered Install, which is cool. Right way to go for sure.

 

[teddyw19]

The stock is the same, Noveske did their own carrier and recoil system.

HB is a pound or so lighter weight than the Noveske and Rattler. The Rattler will not last long term with a silencer, which is why Sig does not warranty it.

The HB uses an adjustable gas block, fast twist barrel, and muzzle taper. The Noveske uses a larger barrel port to ensure operation. We don’t do that. As a result, the recoil does not feel the same.

Dead Air does not make the best cans in any class, but that depends on how you define “best” I suppose. They are a S&W, Ruger brand IMO.

Most gas and debris comes thru the barrel, not the gas system when shooting when a silencer. This why the MP-5SD is dirty shooting. Pistons are louder, heavier, more parts, etc. There’s occasionally a place for that, and maybe a 5” 300BLK without a silencer

The stock is the same, Noveske did their own carrier and recoil system.

HB is a pound or so lighter weight than the Noveske and Rattler. The Rattler will not last long term with a silencer, which is why Sig does not warranty it.

The HB uses an adjustable gas block, fast twist barrel, and muzzle taper. The Noveske uses a larger barrel port to ensure operation. We don’t do that. As a result, the recoil does not feel the same.

Dead Air does not make the best cans in any class, but that depends on how you define “best” I suppose. They are a S&W, Ruger brand IMO.

Most gas and debris comes thru the barrel, not the gas system when shooting when a silencer. This why the MP-5SD is dirty shooting. Pistons are louder, heavier, more parts, etc. There’s occasionally a place for that, and maybe a 5” 300BLK without a silencer is it...

Fair enough they look very similar and the internals appeared identical except cosmetics. Dead air attachment method or Surefire qd attachements- use of stellite baffles

 

[Hobbes442]

I have been waiting for the 8.6 blackout fix since heard the news and finally broke down and bought a 6.5 creed 16” Fix and put the trash panda on it and it has become my new favorite gun.. feels so solid and the stock is rock tight. It only would be better if it shot out sprinkled donuts after the bullet. I’m tired of heavy guns . I like how you can put a shorter top rail on also.

 

[Canmoose]

Finally got my Fix, after much waiting up north (I am in Canada).

We don't have access to the Proof, Bartlein / Tooley barrels, and I am wondering if I should just pick up the OEM (Green Mountain Barrels).

I have it in 16" 6.5, and may purchase the 22" (6.5) and 16" (.308).

Do you guys feel the OEM barrels meet your requirements?

 

[minorsubplot]

Finally got my Fix, after much waiting up north (I am in Canada).

We don't have access to the Proof, Bartlein / Tooley barrels, and I am wondering if I should just pick up the OEM (Green Mountain Barrels).

I have it in 16" 6.5, and may purchase the 22" (6.5) and 16" (.308).

Do you guys feel the OEM barrels meet your requirements?

The standard barrel and rifle is easily a sub MOA gun. You'll probably hit trans/subsonic around 900 yards or so depending on your round, but it will shoot really well out to 850 or so--you're only getting so much velocity out of 16". Then, especially if it's windy, past that will be unpredictable with the subsonic transition. You can still get on target at 1000 with some consistency if it's not gusting too bad. 120 and 140/143 hornady match and eld-x bullets have all shot very well from mine.

 

[Supersubes]

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Finally got my Fix, after much waiting up north (I am in Canada).

We don't have access to the Proof, Bartlein / Tooley barrels, and I am wondering if I should just pick up the OEM (Green Mountain Barrels).

I have it in 16" 6.5, and may purchase the 22" (6.5) and 16" (.308).

Do you guys feel the OEM barrels meet your requirements?

IMO its not a switch barrel gun. Just leave it the handy lightweight gun that it is.

 

[Canmoose]

The standard barrel and rifle is easily a sub MOA gun. You'll probably hit trans/subsonic around 900 yards or so depending on your round, but it will shoot really well out to 850 or so--you're only getting so much velocity out of 16". Then, especially if it's windy, past that will be unpredictable with the subsonic transition. You can still get on target at 1000 with some consistency if it's not gusting too bad. 120 and 140/143 hornady match and eld-x bullets have all shot very well from mine.

Thank you, this is great info.

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IMO its not a switch barrel gun. Just leave it the handy lightweight gun that it is.

Agreed on this. However, we can't have nice things in Canada. I do shoot a lot and just want to be prepared for this and next season.

 

[Sjc141]

Finally got my Fix, after much waiting up north (I am in Canada).

We don't have access to the Proof, Bartlein / Tooley barrels, and I am wondering if I should just pick up the OEM (Green Mountain Barrels).

I have it in 16" 6.5, and may purchase the 22" (6.5) and 16" (.308).

Do you guys feel the OEM barrels meet your requirements?

Mine came with a 22” green mountain. I had it cut down to 17.5” since it always has a silencer on it. Still groups within a thumb nail at 200y and carries over 1000 lbs of energy out to 600 with 143gr ELDX.

 

[minorsubplot]

Mine came with a 22” green mountain. I had it cut down to 17.5” since it always has a silencer on it. Still groups within a thumb nail at 200y and carries over 1000 lbs of energy out to 600 with 143gr ELDX.

Have you chron'd the 143s from your 17.5 or a 16" barrel?

Someone chrono'd the 120gr Match Hornadys through my 16" barrel at 2556. I'm trying to work a ballistic profile for the 143 ELD-X. Also, do people think the .311 G7 BC is realistic for that bullet, or is it a little lower?