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If you are asking me, it all depends on what stock you are using, and if it has pillars, and has been bedded. I think you better let Mike B. answer that.
Evelio.
So it is finally home. I first installed the barrelled action in a McMillan light hunter BR stock I had home. It is ok but will be much nicer when I put it in the PR and T lowboy stock I am waiting for. Still have not shot it but have tried the action and trigger with snap caps. Action is very solidly and precisely built and Flavio Fare trigger is really nice. Here are a few pics. Sorry that I am not a better photographer.
Gilbert
Gilbert
Well was charged the balance of my order last week that I was to pay when rifle was done then was contacted today that it isnt done and if I still want the shilen barrel It will be a long wait. What a kick in the nuts. Very bummed out
Man I was all in bought bore teck cleaning stuff from bore teck and bought a new one piece rest for my new vudoo single shot.
Matt, I've been buying Shilen blanks from a reliable source for a couple of years now - they always had them in stock, and shipped to me within a week. Then this past summer, suddenly they were out of not just the contours I'd been using, but had zero Shilens in stock. I called and got on their waiting list 4-5 months ago; finally got a call from them about 3 weeks back saying that they'd gotten in a shipment of .900" straight cylinder blanks, and these were all they were expecting for an indefinite period of time. Was hoping to get another R5, but since I have a customer who wants the .900" blanks for a couple of his CZ455s, I took two, and was glad to get them. I'm not privy to what's going on at Shilen, but would bet that VGW is in a bind just like the rest of us when it comes to getting the Shilen blanks they need.
The Shilen is a fine barrel and worth waiting for but if it were me (and it isn't
) I would ask Vudoo if they could get me a Benchmark barrel made to my specs and ask how long the wait is.I used to wait an average of 2 to 2 1/2 years on custom knives and traditional bows so a Vudoo wait would be a breeze to me.
The wait on my knives and bows was always well worth it to me.
The wait time on a Shiloh Sharps rifle went up to 4 1/2 years at one point after the dang Quigley movie came out.
Mike B Went to the Vudoo site to try order sheet. Was I surprised to find out there is no 22VS order sheet? Mike I would like to see a updated site. Include all action, barrel, stock, and trigger options as well as tuners available and all their prices. I know the prices would be subject to change. Availability could then be talked over with Jill when she calls for order confirmation and changes made as needed including wait time for build.
Man, I’ll tell you, while I know what gets recommended but, most guns I ‘ve owned and know of generally don’t get tightened past about 30 inlbs In a properly bedded, pillared rifle.
I'd tried to loosen the two little 4-40 set screws that hold the rear of the V-22S's striker so I could unscrew the striker to change to a lighter spring out of the kit the action ships with, using a ball-end Wera 0.05 L-shaped hex wrench, but all it was doing was slipping without turning the screws. Figured I'd rounded off the hex head of both screws, and would have to use an EZ-Out to get them loose, so ordered some spare set screws, a Wera 0.05 hex driver, and etc from MSC a few days ago. A partial order with the Wera driver came today, so I pulled the bolt out of the rifle, pulled the striker assembly out of the bolt, and tried the new Wera hex driver in one of the set screws - it went a lot deeper into the screw than the L-wrench had, and it didn't take a lot of effort to loosen that screw up. Tried it in the 2nd screw, and it also loosened without any slippage of the wrench. No idea why the L-shaped wrench wouldn't slide down into the set screw far enough to work, especially since they're from the same maker, but I'm sure glad I didn't bugger-up the set screws with an EZ-Out. Swapped out the 16lb spring for the lightest one in the kit - 13lb - so when this 25-30mph with higher gusts wind dies down in a few days, I'll get the rifle out and do some testing to see if that's heavy enough to give consistent ignition.
Mic both wrenches, I see quite a bit of variation in some. Just out of curiosity...
Do you see any accuracy difference in the rifles you are referring to? I ask because in theory a properly bedded action the torque on the screws should not matter (within reason). I have tested a lot also and have yet to see a difference anywhere from 30 lb-in up to 70 lb-in when the bedding is stress free.
To be fair they refunded me the balance today until rifle is done then I pay it again
To really be able to answers your question I need to know what kind of stock are you using, and is it fully pillared and epoxy bedded ?????
Evelio.
Well, you’re probably correct, so now the question becomes why tighten well past what is likely required for stress free securing the action into the stock?
Lots of guys have done lots of testing on this.
Hell, these days, a lot of guys do not even torque them any longer, be it sporter, LV, HV, UNL. If you are not heavy handed with good bedding & hardware, if you cinch them down properly, when they get there they just stop.
I mean I’m anal and have an in lb wrench so I still do everything @30 in lb.
most do not realize how tight that really is.
If you see a change between good and snug and 30-35 in lbs, you likely have bedding issues. All these guys talking about needing to vary front to back are addressing the wrong problem. With a factory gun, sure, but if it is bedded/ pillered, something moved with a wood stock or you got a shit job.
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Agreed, I was just curious if there was a reason why you landed on 30lb-in in specific.
Well, again, not really mine. Over many years, I have shot with, talked to, tons of guys, I personally have had built, probably 15-18 rifles with wood or composite stocks, all but one bedded/pillared and this seems pretty much to be consensus opinion.
I’ve played with 25-35 in lbs.......zero impact.
Hell, my GS has probably built more championship/world record sporters on the planet.
When you’re building a wood stock, 7.5lb. total weight with scope rifle, there is not any margin for error. These are the absolute toughest BR rigs to shoot well, given only 6.5X scope. He doesn’t torque those or 10.5lb. rifles......cinch them down until they just stop without being a gorilla wrist.
WOW! That's one heck of a wait! I know it'll be worth it. Ordered mine October 2nd. Looks like I have a ways to go.....
There’s a lot of discussion about action bolt torque and I’m not certain why, other than, it appears a lot of guys overthink it. It’s primarily dependent on the stock material, bedding/pillars.
Generally, I use 65 inch pounds across the board with our NRL22/PRS type builds and have never seen playing with torque values have an impact on what’s seen at the target. For the V-22S, I have no reason to change this but can sign up to a torque range of 45 to 65 inch pounds.
MB
I've been shooting my V-22s with the action screws torque at 50 inch pounds. I've not found any reason to change as it's the best shooting rimfire I've ever owned!
I agree, and I use 20 in/lbs on all my rimfire and see no reason to change either. Point is, use whatever setting you have confidence in.
For those of you who have owned a V22 (repeater) and now have a V22S, what kind of accuracy difference have you seen?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Very little but the V22S seems a bit more consistently accurate. What I was saying is that I have both guns and the V-22 is a wonderful rifle and shoots extremely well (mine has a 18" Bartlein barrel). My V-22S has a 24" Shilen Ratchet barrel.
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