Re: Why did USO not get the USMC contract?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tuna921</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7mmRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
DOD contracts don't go to the best product, its a whole myriad of politics, logistics and who can throw in the most crap (ask SigSauer)...... </div></div>
While I generally agree with what you are saying, I do think that in this particular instance they got the best product. Especially for what was available at the time the contract was awarded. </div></div>
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Meanwhile, the Marines also are upgrading the optics for scout snipers. In 2005, the Corps awarded a $15 million contract to Premiere Reticles, of Winchester, Va., for scout sniper day scopes to replace the service's aging and failing Unertl sniper scopes. Premiere Reticles is the U.S. distributor for the German-made Schmidt & Bender 3x12x50 combat telescope.
The new scopes will become standard equipment for all Marine 7.62 mm M40A1, M40A2 and M40A3, and .50 caliber M82A1, M82A2 and M82A3 sniper riflesSniper rifles:
Regular 'sniper' rifles. Including scoped variants of regular weapons, dedicated designs, dedicated marksman variants, etc..
Accuracy International Arctic Warfare / L96
Accuracy International Arctic Warfare AE
..... Click the link for more information.. The Barrett Firearms CompanyFor the assault rifle, see Valmet M82. For the hair clip, see barrette.
The Barrett Firearms Company was founded in 1980 by Ronnie Barrett. The company's main product is the Barrett M82A1 sniper rifle.
..... Click the link for more information., of Murfreesboro, Tenn., manufactures the .50 caliber rifles. The 7.62 mm weapons are handmade by Marine armorers at Quantico. The service initially purchased 575 scopes at $1,749 each. The contract allows the Corps to buy a total of 7,500 by 2010.
The Schmidt & Bender scope replaces the venerable Unertl. It features an illuminated, state-of-the-art reticle that allows for more precise range finding at greater distances and on a wider variety of target sizes.
Marines have reported that the new sight is more durable than its predecessor. It holds its sight alignment during rough and ready combat conditions.
One complaint about the Schmidt & Bender scope is that it measures in meters, rather than yards, but snipers apparently are adjusting to that. Those of the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment scored the first recorded combat kill using the new optic in January. They killed an insurgent INSURGENT. One who is concerned in an insurrection. He differs from a rebel in this, that rebel is always understood in a bad sense, or one who unjustly opposes the constituted authorities; insurgent may be one who justly opposes the tyranny of constituted authorities. planting improvised explosive devices near Tallulah, Iraq.
In addition, the Corps this year plans to procure:
* A new scout sniper observation telescope to take the place of to be substituted for.
- Berkeley.
See also: Place the 20-power daytime M49 spotting scopeA spotting scope is a portable telescope, optimized for the observation of terrestrial objects. The magnification of a spotting scope is typically on the order of 20X to 60X.
..... Click the link for more information.. The M49 has seen several decades of use observing potential targets for snipers and artillery.
* A scout sniper medium-range night sight. This scope is a lightweight, weapon-mounted, battery-operated device for engaging targets at ranges between 400 and 800 yards during nighttime and other low-light conditions.
* A scout sniper observer night device to detect, identify and range main-size targets up to 400 yards away and vehicle-size objects up to 800 yards distant in reduced lighting The reduction in brightness of ground vehicle lights by either reducing power or by screening in such a way that any visible light is limited in output. See also normal lighting. or obscured conditions.
* A tactical weapons light to attach to rifle barrels, enabling Marine to illuminate potential nighttime targets without having to fumble with fumble with vt fus → manosear a separate, handheld flashlight.
Between 2008 and 2011, the Marines plan to conduct research and development into the next generation of optics and begin fielding them to operating forces, starting with infantry units, Beal said.
The Marines are eager to replenish their inventory of obsolete optical systems with modern technology. The Corps has "tens of thousands of items that I will not be able to maintain," Beal said. Some of them predate the Korean War Korean War, conflict between Communist and non-Communist forces in Korea from June 25, 1950, to July 27, 1953. At the end of World War II, Korea was divided at the 38th parallel into Soviet (North Korean) and U.S. (South Korean) zones of occupation. .
"I want to replace multiple systems with one item--a family line of optical systems," she said. "I want a small, light, low-powered package with day and night capability, global positioning system Global Positioning System: see navigation satellite.
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Global Positioning System (GPS)
Precise satellite-based navigation and location system originally developed for U.S. military use. technology, precision targeting and--this being the Marine Corps--I want it for free."
Beal was not serious about the price, of course, but funding is a concern, she noted. Spending has fluctuated from $82 million in 2006 to $22 million requested for 2007. However, the 2006 emergency funding bill to pay for wartime and Katrina expenses, signed into law in June by President Bush, contained $271.5 million for Marine optics.
Acquiring the latest in combat optics is important on the battlefield, Grass emphasized. He noted that U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have encountered enemy snipers equipped with telescopes and night-vision equipment.
Most of the enemy gear was old, often from the Soviet era. But it can be effective, he said. "If we're going to win battles, we have to maintain our technological advantage."
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tuna921</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7mmRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
DOD contracts don't go to the best product, its a whole myriad of politics, logistics and who can throw in the most crap (ask SigSauer)...... </div></div>
While I generally agree with what you are saying, I do think that in this particular instance they got the best product. Especially for what was available at the time the contract was awarded. </div></div>
+1 </div></div>
+2
Meanwhile, the Marines also are upgrading the optics for scout snipers. In 2005, the Corps awarded a $15 million contract to Premiere Reticles, of Winchester, Va., for scout sniper day scopes to replace the service's aging and failing Unertl sniper scopes. Premiere Reticles is the U.S. distributor for the German-made Schmidt & Bender 3x12x50 combat telescope.
The new scopes will become standard equipment for all Marine 7.62 mm M40A1, M40A2 and M40A3, and .50 caliber M82A1, M82A2 and M82A3 sniper riflesSniper rifles:
Regular 'sniper' rifles. Including scoped variants of regular weapons, dedicated designs, dedicated marksman variants, etc..
Accuracy International Arctic Warfare / L96
Accuracy International Arctic Warfare AE
..... Click the link for more information.. The Barrett Firearms CompanyFor the assault rifle, see Valmet M82. For the hair clip, see barrette.
The Barrett Firearms Company was founded in 1980 by Ronnie Barrett. The company's main product is the Barrett M82A1 sniper rifle.
..... Click the link for more information., of Murfreesboro, Tenn., manufactures the .50 caliber rifles. The 7.62 mm weapons are handmade by Marine armorers at Quantico. The service initially purchased 575 scopes at $1,749 each. The contract allows the Corps to buy a total of 7,500 by 2010.
The Schmidt & Bender scope replaces the venerable Unertl. It features an illuminated, state-of-the-art reticle that allows for more precise range finding at greater distances and on a wider variety of target sizes.
Marines have reported that the new sight is more durable than its predecessor. It holds its sight alignment during rough and ready combat conditions.
One complaint about the Schmidt & Bender scope is that it measures in meters, rather than yards, but snipers apparently are adjusting to that. Those of the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment scored the first recorded combat kill using the new optic in January. They killed an insurgent INSURGENT. One who is concerned in an insurrection. He differs from a rebel in this, that rebel is always understood in a bad sense, or one who unjustly opposes the constituted authorities; insurgent may be one who justly opposes the tyranny of constituted authorities. planting improvised explosive devices near Tallulah, Iraq.
In addition, the Corps this year plans to procure:
* A new scout sniper observation telescope to take the place of to be substituted for.
- Berkeley.
See also: Place the 20-power daytime M49 spotting scopeA spotting scope is a portable telescope, optimized for the observation of terrestrial objects. The magnification of a spotting scope is typically on the order of 20X to 60X.
..... Click the link for more information.. The M49 has seen several decades of use observing potential targets for snipers and artillery.
* A scout sniper medium-range night sight. This scope is a lightweight, weapon-mounted, battery-operated device for engaging targets at ranges between 400 and 800 yards during nighttime and other low-light conditions.
* A scout sniper observer night device to detect, identify and range main-size targets up to 400 yards away and vehicle-size objects up to 800 yards distant in reduced lighting The reduction in brightness of ground vehicle lights by either reducing power or by screening in such a way that any visible light is limited in output. See also normal lighting. or obscured conditions.
* A tactical weapons light to attach to rifle barrels, enabling Marine to illuminate potential nighttime targets without having to fumble with fumble with vt fus → manosear a separate, handheld flashlight.
Between 2008 and 2011, the Marines plan to conduct research and development into the next generation of optics and begin fielding them to operating forces, starting with infantry units, Beal said.
The Marines are eager to replenish their inventory of obsolete optical systems with modern technology. The Corps has "tens of thousands of items that I will not be able to maintain," Beal said. Some of them predate the Korean War Korean War, conflict between Communist and non-Communist forces in Korea from June 25, 1950, to July 27, 1953. At the end of World War II, Korea was divided at the 38th parallel into Soviet (North Korean) and U.S. (South Korean) zones of occupation. .
"I want to replace multiple systems with one item--a family line of optical systems," she said. "I want a small, light, low-powered package with day and night capability, global positioning system Global Positioning System: see navigation satellite.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Global Positioning System (GPS)
Precise satellite-based navigation and location system originally developed for U.S. military use. technology, precision targeting and--this being the Marine Corps--I want it for free."
Beal was not serious about the price, of course, but funding is a concern, she noted. Spending has fluctuated from $82 million in 2006 to $22 million requested for 2007. However, the 2006 emergency funding bill to pay for wartime and Katrina expenses, signed into law in June by President Bush, contained $271.5 million for Marine optics.
Acquiring the latest in combat optics is important on the battlefield, Grass emphasized. He noted that U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have encountered enemy snipers equipped with telescopes and night-vision equipment.
Most of the enemy gear was old, often from the Soviet era. But it can be effective, he said. "If we're going to win battles, we have to maintain our technological advantage."
COPYRIGHT 2006 National Defense Industrial Association
No portion of this article can be reproduced without the express written permission from the copyright holder.
Copyright 2006, Gale Group. All rights reserved. Gale Group is a Thomson Corporation Company.
