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You appear to be trying for 1st place for the most damaged egotistical idiot on the site.

You Can't read...I already said "the SS case head is against the bolt face"....go back and reread it.

This is a 308 cartridge in a 308 chamber...notice most of the solid head is not supported but outside of the chamber.

There is not a problem with galling, as stated. Nothing you show I don't already know...I work with these hybrid cases in a variety of chambers.

But you wouldn't know that, cause you don't use hybrid cases.

No one cares if you like hybrid cases or not, there are positives and negatives to most everything but galling is not a problem here, and proven by use, plus there is almost no SS in contact with the chamber as stated, most of the SS case head is outside the chamber, as pictured.

If your ego didn't get in the way you might learn something....instead your showing your increasing stupidity and lack of subject knowledge.
Then you continue pressing on, presenting even more stupidity...
If anyone asks a basic question you get super butt hurt. You are the one all us randoms just reading for info, see as the sensitive snowflake. Quit acting like a Spanish soccer player. We don’t care about your personal history of hybrid case drama. Bottle that shit up like a man, and just talk about how they work for you.

Why do people load so hot?

I'm not too new to reloading but only really getting serious into rifle this year. If I were to read the forums, here and elsewhere, it would seem that the method to work up a load is to start in the middle of the data and then work up until your gun starts doing fucked up things to your brass. What's the deal with this advice? It clearly ignores the measured pressure limits, it's likely not going to blow up your gun but it will reduce brass and barrel life and likely reduce your precision. Is it just the natural tendency for monkeys to max things out to the point that they break? Why don't people just go to a larger cartridge if they want to stuff too much powder in? What am I missing?
You aren’t missing anything. Like the diesel pickup owner that blows his daily driver motor or tranny screwing around on the weekend at a truck pull, most reloaders scoff at reasonable brass life or upgrading to a 300-378 Weatherby. Good quality gear and components will last if used in the middle of their capabilities. I could get another 100 fps out of my 300PRC load. Thing is, my expensive brass is not growing and the pockets are still tight.

6 ARC Upper Build: 18” PVA Osprey (Rifle +2”) + San Tan Tactical Billet Upper + SOLGW M89 Rail

I have a JP adjustable clamp on gas block on my 18" PVA 6arc. Runs great with everything I have tested in it, factory and handloads 87gr-105gr. Mostly suppressed but I have tested it without the can without issue.

I'm not a big gas gun guy but I live at 6200' asl not sure if that matters on how they function.
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Do I need a small base die to save my brass? 6.5CM

It isn't very easy to explain without graphics and plots, but here goes with just words....

Cartridge brass has a few parameters that explain the behavior. If we speak about the modulus, stress, strain, hardness state, yield, etc., then when the case is virgin it has a starting point that has a set of those parameters, and a dimensional relationship to the chamber (and dies).

Each firing cycle causes some of the properties at the body/head to change. Some of the dimensions also change depending on the pressure and deflection (strain). In most examples, the first cycle will be trivial to extract, but as the cycle count goes on, this can change.

When the dies work the body, there are more changes but that concept of yield and work hardening gets to dominate this particular discussion. The specific dimensions of a chamber or die are a "fixed" strain to the first order. (When we put this under the microscope, a chamber/bolt will actually do a significant amount of elastic stretching depending on the design.)

The pressure cycle forces the brass in the body to flex. The case head has a section stiffness right near that 200 line that goes from acting like a balloon, to having a thickness. Some of the flex during the cycle recovers, some of it doesn't, and all of it begins to work harden and change the properties.

When the dimensions of the dies, and the chamber are what I called "coordinated" earlier, that part of the case near the 200 line shrinks enough after firing-sizing-firing to prevent this clicker issue. But, when a chamber is larger than what those dies can handle, then we get to a point where the elastic to plastic parts of the problem start to tip over and resizing no longer "works".

In a balanced coordinated system, you can shoot (below a pressure level) almost indefinitely, or at least have the cycle count up to a reasonable level before the hardening of the case head and the primer pocket dimensions become a limiting factor.

In an uncoordinated system, or when the pressure always takes the brass beyond yield up in the case head with space to flow, we get to where dies might allow the brass to get back inside the chamber, but will still result in clickers on the next cycle.

As chamber reamers, dies, and brass/ammo, has improved, the problem is less common with more standardized designs. However, it takes time for designers, gunsmiths, and users, to iron out the newer ones.

A poor chambering job can set this problem up with any design, but even then when the chamber is borderline on a newer design and the cartridge is operated at higher than traditional pressures, we can see the clicker issues. YMMV
Super detailed and logical description. Brass quality, usually driven by cost, can have a real significant influence on this process too. Saving Lapua brass is important. Saving Hornady or Federal, maybe not so much. Once I went to high quality brass, everything got a lot simpler.

Berger 200.20X vs Berger 215 Hyb-Trgt

Can you elaborate on why it’s such a winner?
Better bc and all that goes with that. They are not picky about jump. The farther out you shoot them the difference will definitely show up vs the 200 even though it can be shot with faster fps. Now I've shot a lot of 208 Berger LRHT in a 300prc, bc is almost identical to the 215, I do like that 208. However, the 230 A-tip is what I typically use in my PRC.

1st group after bore sight/zeroing scope

You could educate yourself using years and $1000’s for guns and ammo, or take a class or 2 with an experienced expert crew of shooters. Sound coaching from experienced shooters who can demonstrate their pro level ability on demand is invaluable, and saves years of grinding down random paths to success, only to find you missed the turn a while back. I say this as the guy who did it alone, because I was broke and didn’t know any pros to help me. Most people are not dumb enough to keep grinding long enough to be successful.

It was just self defense kids!!

and therefore no end to the Old Covenant - which even in Isaiah's time, referred to by Jesus, the Old Covenant was made into a farce by the Sanhedrin and their underlings of rabbis and religious lawyers and teachers.

"They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’ You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”

But the important thing is that resurrection and salvation which closed the door to the Old Covenant and ended even authentic Judiasm. They ceased to be The Way. Now "Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all."
Judaism is basically the religious version of Downton Abbey. Used to be a big deal, still pretends to be. Not cool with letting the old stuff go, so quite vulnerable to being bought off by Satan’s worldly rewards. Don’t kid yourselves, those worldly rewards are real, and incredibly awesome, but also poisoned from the core of evil.

**6 Creedmoor**

Whether it works for you will depend on how long your barrel is and what your velocity goal is. H1000 will perform better in a longer barrel. I had a good load of 45.8gn H1000 shooting ~3050fps with Lapua brass in a 28” barrel. IIRC that was a slightly compressed load. As noted above, you will run out of case capacity before you see any pressure signs. If you are running short barrel, it will be a lot harder to get a good load with decent velocity.
This is getting worse all the time! I was planning on a 24"bbl.

Maggie’s Socially UNacceptable Humor

Sadly… it’s from a satire site.

Though an incident like this did occur in 2007 or so, IIRC but it was some wildlife biologist grad student type.

It got me when I first read it… but a bit of digging and, darn… satire!

Sirhr
It does have a strong possibility of happening, but the followup picture of the idiot shows a person in their 50’s.

Considering the number of people who try to pet Bison, Deer, Elk, etal a real incident is coming.