Jsp556 said:

I think most people just hate state sponsored violence, civil asset forfeiture, corruption, misconduct, Brady list officers, bad stops, bad shoots, militarized swat, raids on the wrong houses, and the list goes on. Everyone gets tired of seeing the shit that happens, knowing the “good cops” see it and do nothing to stop it. LE, the lowest level of the executive branch, has no duty to protect citizens yet want to he hailed as hero’s. They protect the government, that’s it. Once people see government for what it is, they grow to hate it. Only government employees, leeches, and statists like government. Unfortunately that includes “good cops”.

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excellent synopsis. laws are put in by politicians. almost exclusively for the empowerment,enrichment and advancement of politicians,bureaucrats and members of the judicial system. they almost never have anything to do with the benefit of citizen taxpayers. at the basic level,cops have no statutory obligation to protect live,liberty or property. this fact was well enunciated by the SC after the Rodney King riots. most cops are just lazy slugs. a large # are corrupt or bullies or sociopaths or all 3, many are out and out psychopaths. examples of police ineptitude and brutality are simply much more documented these days than in previous times. ie when they don't disable the mandatory body/cruiser cameras.
some police have done and do good work. they are not the average cop. protecting their bad outcomes is a full time job for their managers. about the same as doctors sanctioning corrupt,incompetent doctors-happens only very rarely.
the visceral reaction of many people these days is disgust with an abusive corrupt gov at all levels. police are the obvious and visible representatives of that. thus the increasing dislike for LE in general and at all levels. the FBI being the apex abuser.

turkey_creek said:

I’ve had perfectly good success using data for the 168 with the 169. Think I even read here somewhere when they came out, that’s what Sierra told them to do.

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Yeah, I find my loads for 169 SMK are very close to that for my 168 SMK's. I've read some reloaders saying the load data for the 168 TMK is close to that for the 169 SMK . . .???

I’d buy another rifle if I knew it would work pretty seamlessly.

@EotS

We’re back baby.

goneballistic said:

wait, what if I don't know?! What happens? I have one of those 15 rd mags but I always have issues with it working....

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Last thing first: What issue(s) are you having?

The 15-round mags amplify "sensitivities" found in the 10-rounders:

• The magazine MUST!! be held at the correct height in your chassis or stock.
  My 2019-vintage rifle is in an MPA BA Comp chassis. When it first came from Vudoo, the non-adjustable mag latch allowed about 3/16" or so of vertical play. This was enough to cause feed failures, especially with the last round or two in my 10-round polymer mags. @RAVAGE88 identified the issue immediately upon seeing it. The end result was my receiving an adjustable latch from MPA; as I understand it, that latch is now standard on the BA Comp chassis.
  
  More broadly, consider the gigantic challenge of stripping a rimmed cartridge with a butter soft bullet off an under-tension stack of cartridges and feeding it into a chamber only a few thousandths of an inch larger in diameter than the bullet, without that bullet suffering scrapes or dents on the way in. Then add the manufacturing tolerances of the plethora of R700 stocks and chassis. It's actually pretty incredible that Vudoos work as well as they do.
  
  
• The mags, ESPECIALLY the 15-rounders, MUST be loaded correctly.
  Look at the cartridge column in my post's photo (included again here) - notice the alternating pattern of the stack. This is accomplished by pressing the follower button down just enough to slide a round under the feed lips, then release the button. The bullet nose should orient itself just above the front of the mag as shown. If the round is "flat" - not angled as shown and the bullet nose points straight at the front wall of the mag - it's wrong; fix it by tapping the base of the mag gently and/or use a fingernail to pull back and down on the cartridge rim; it should pop into position.
  
  Even if each round is loaded correctly, you may notice two bullet noses on the same side of the mag - no alternation. If you leave that uncorrected, a stoppage is almost guaranteed when the bolt tries to feed that slightly misaligned round.
  
  The 10-round mags have the same requirement; it's just that the column doesn't show the pattern as clearly.
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The "If you know, you know" comment refers to having a 15-round mag with a follower button that makes inserting all 15 incredibly slippery Lapua cartridges in hot weather almost easy. The follower button on ten-round magazines with extensions on them only helps with the first ten, then the last two or five or whatever rounds have to be pushed onto the stack. In August heat, that lube makes manhandling a round onto the stack almost comical.

Ex E6 said:

Truthfully VV powders are a bargain , compared to what those thieves are peddling older US powers produced by " Foreigners " .

What we need as a Country is #4-8 MAJOR munitions producing plants IN THE USA !. Eventually outsourcing comes back to bite one in the ass !.
Range brass pickups are a mixed bag ,sometimes one gets brand new once fired and sometimes one gets headaches from #35 firings in someone Else's chamber . I've not compared a lot of different manufacturers brass , however I've shot and reloaded a crap load of LC & SL 1942-44 .30 Cal M2 once fired in My Garands and was blown away at how many reliable reloads I achieved . #50 I stopped ,cut two cases for real thickness measurement . Easily would go another 10 reloads . I did partial anneal necks after every 3 Rd. firing ,so as not to lose necks from splitting . I also use 1953-68 Mixed 7.62X51mm LC and Match brass ,mainly for M14 and two 7.62X51 Gas guns ,haven't lost a single rim and those extractors are notoriously hard on cases . I used a batch of W cases commercial and after #2 firings scrapped them ,as they looked like a Grizzly bear mauled them and pieces of rims were torn away . So I NEVER us that brand of case in anything ,I reload or shoot .

Laupua is excellent brass but it's also COSTLY now days ,so I tend to avoid it ( unless someone discards it ) ,yet we both know Reloaders DON'T discard Laupa unless it's time has expired . Those days of Lapua Range brass are distant memories .

Swiss make decent brass cases ,as did RWS at one time . IF only FN was still making cases

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Last year, to my surprise, I happened to see some discarded 6.5 cm Lapua brass that appeared to be just once fired (having what looked like factory sealant around the primer as an indicator), so I picked the 40 rounds laying there for a shooting buddy who reloads that round (I don't shoot the Creedmoor). The different range brass I've collected are from shooters at the range shooting from factory boxes of cartridges while I was there. I've always been careful about picking up range brass, not wanting to have any of those "headaches" from previous reloaded cases; who knows how many times or how they were processed. I've not fired all the different one's in my gun, being I was more interested in the more specific differences (like consistency in weight, primer pocket depths, centering of flash holes, etc.).

Initially, I did focus on Federal brass and wanted to see if they'd perform as well as my Lapua brass. And for the most part they have for my .308, but it takes more effort to get cases to the consistency I find in Lapua brass (like culling out outliers). Because their neck thickness and case capacity being close to Lapua and having got them performing close to Lapua brass, I often use them as test cases before I move on to my Lapua brass when trying something new.

Except for last fall when I bought some Lapua Palma brass, I haven't had to buy any of it since I've stocked up pretty well before Covid. LOL. . . I think I've got enough to last the rest of my life I'm no youngster! I've got a few boxes I picked up as a bargain only paying $79 each for them.

He was looking for confrontation…hoping you’d hit him so he could sue you for actually hurting him instead of just hurting his feels. Almost certainly had a cohort secretly filming the whole thing.

Gwood88 said:

Damn! @wigwamitus how many head of cattle you got for it to take this long?!

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Sorry I took all his time lol

Aftermath said:

You can supplement your diet with rice.

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Beans and Rice make a great meal

Running from what? Has-been fat as keyboard warriors? Ha!

You take yourself too seriously. I’m just saying you guys are chicken shits because you constantly bitch about stuff on the internet and making zero difference in the real world.

You dont like tyranny? Bad cops? Corrupt government?

Great!. No one on this site does, but bashing here does absolutely nothing except put you more in line with liberal dipshits acting lawless across the nation.

Why not actually something to fix the problem in real life?

Also, you are both circle jerking Short peckered Fags

And don’t mention the war!!!

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Sirhr

I fondled one and I really like it.....not sure about competition rugged, but seems awesome for hunting.

Jojo417 said:

Good luck.

The American made optics I’ve owned are inferior to Japanese optics.

Mk5’s are one of the most over priced optics on the market.

The Steiner is almost perfect, but suffers a major flaw. The reticle isn’t sized correctly. It’s not usable until about 14x.

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I find mine “usable” during daylight starting around 6 power. Comes into its own around 10x. It’s very usable at dusk with illumination on 3x, perfect for hunting. MSR2.

Holliday said:

The border dance-off is really going now!

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Sirhr

fucking around with the Houthis getting expensive

So much for cooler heads prevailing…

Must be hard to keep cool when you keep it wrapped in a blanket all the time…

And away… we go!

Force them inside, chain doors shut, pouring in 100 gallons of diesel and toss in flares. Problem solved.

Ironically they hate Boeing and Boeing paid for the building. In June they will be applying at Boeing for jobs.