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Struggling to understand the mistery with this rifle

I need your advice guys. The gun is a custom .308 with NF NX8 scope, hawkins rings, manners EH4 stock with élite shell (so there is a carbon fiber shell), defiance action and a 22 bartlein medium profile barrel. It weights around 11 lbs and i kept it reasonably light because I use it for hunting. At the range it shoots amazingly well, from prone and from a bench, with and without bipod. The last three Times i went to the range i was shooting some RWS factory ammo which the rifle shoots regularly in one rugged hole, no joke. Many times when I shoot the third, fourth or fifth round, i can’t literally see the new hole. It’s even difficult to estimate how largenare these groups because you literally don’t see bullet impacts since they are one over the other. BUT, i fired two times in field conditions and the results were bad. The first time i just shot 2 rounds to check zero and they went more than 1 MOA high so today i went at a range in the same mountains where i hunt where you can shoot prone from gravel, thinking it was a good way to try the behaviour of the rifle in a not solid and quite uneven terrain: disaster. Shooting prone, being decently comfortable, i shot around 60 shots and groups opened up from 0.3 to 1.5 moa more or less, with just a single 4 shots group which was 0.4 MOA and a 3 shots group which was 0.5. I tried Leaning bipod legs on a front fixed surface to push them, i tried to load the bipod more and i tried with different rear rests. At the end i noticed that bipod (harris) was digging into the ground resulting in very inconsistent recoil impulse despite my effort to keep the same exact position behind the rifle. Loading the bipod a bit (something i don’t like to do while hunting and which is difficult to do with a harris) helped a bit but groups remained around 1 moa. The spread of the groups was both vertical and lateral, maybe a little bit more vertical but not much so. Then i tried 9 shots in a row from a bench, same identical shooting range and target: 2 fliers and the other 7 shots literally in the same hole, divided into 2 groups which were not in the same exact poi but 1/2 MOA one from the other. The poi didn’t shift much during all the session, remaining centered on my zero overall. The total max spread of all the 60 shots was a little bit more than 2 MOA during all day, considering i switched from prone to bench and including all the “experimental” groups which i did.

1) has this much of an opening of groups to be expected when shooting with the bipod resting on gravel (maybe the worst front test for the bipod) or this change in accuracy has to be due to something else? I am pretty sure that on grass or more consistent dirt results would be better but here in Italy is very difficult to try it. I want to understand if this has to be expected or if this rifle for some reasons is less forgiving in regard to not ideal recoil management due to uneven or yielding terrain
2) a half moa gun, assuming at least that the crosshair doesn’t move on the target, which kind of Max group spread is expected to produce in field conditions, prone and with a bipod resting on gravel or on a similar not consistent surface?
3) I would get better results and less accuracy loss using another bipod (not a harris) with more play in its legs so i can load it and this way the terrain could impact less on the accuracy of the rifle? In this case which are pros and cons of other types of bipods?

I should add that the scope seems not to be the issue (tracks well, never lost zero even despite a solid bang it took the other day), the rifle is reliable and well balanced, all screws are tight to specs and the ammo are of the same lot

SOLD Sold- InfiRay Outdoor BOLT TX60C 1024X1024 60mm Thermal Weapon Sight IRAY-TX60C

I have for sale a like new InfiRay Outdoor BOLT TX60C 1024X1024 60mm Thermal Weapon Sight IRAY-TX60C with InfiRay Outdoor ILR-1200-1 Laser Rangefinder. This unit has 4 years left on the warranty and is like new with no marks on it. Comes with all factory items in factory box.

Price- $4750 delivered via UPS (insured). Will only ship to USA address.

Payment- I can accept PayPal (friends) or standared Paypal and (you pay the fees).

Trades - none

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Firearms CLE Upper

I bought a complete upper from compass Lake engineering in spring of 2023. It has been sitting in my safe since then and has not been fired.
$1150 shipped
PayPal preferred buyer pays g&s
If you have any questions reach out and let me know.
The barrel is cerakote black. It has an adjustable gas block from superlative arms. The bolt was head spaced by them, and the bolt carrier group will be included, as well as the charging handle that came with it.
Complete Tactical Upper:
Bartlein Tactical Twist: 1-7.7
Chamber: CLE .223
Length: 16.1
14.6 M-Lok Handguard
Threads: 5/8-24

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Something apparently unexplainable happening with my custom hunting rifle

Hi everyone, i am living a very weird situation with the new rifle i recently put togheter. 308 barile in barre, defiance action and manners stock with mini chassis. It was put togheter by a very good smith here in Italy. The rifle shoots very well, it is by far the best rifle I have had in this regard, it prints consistently .3 MOA 5 shot groups at 100 m (110 yards) with three different factory ammo. I didn’t believe it was possibile until i got this jewel. That said, i am struggling. I used to use 250 meters max rifles. They are easy to use: mpbr, point > press the trigger > dead deer. With this rifle i installed a scope capable of longer shots (NX8 4-32x50) and i use the high magjification as a spotting scope for selective hunting. Shots are anyway inside 500 yards (on a small 50 lb roe deer this is already a pretty long distance). That said, what gives me issues is the zero: I went to the shooting range 2 times lately, on the first time groups were forming 1.5 inches above the bullseye at 100 m, exactly as i want. Second trip (no changes in anything but the day) bullets were impacting 2 inches above the bullseye. I thought it was a matter of bipod loading and a little bit more relaxed handling of the rifle during the shot or stuff like this. That said, i adjusted the zero stop 1 click (0.1 MIL, so 1 cm at 100 m) in order to get lower shots (at this point between 1.25 inches and 1.75 inches depending on the hold of the rifle and positional shooting while hunting). I went hunting, killed a nice buck (75 meters from me) and then i took a couple shots to confirm all my zeroing in field conditions. I was expecting impacts max 1.25 inches above the bullseye since i was resting the bipod on a softer surface in comparison to the rubber mat used at the range. Two shots in one hole, as usual for this rifle, but more than 3 inches above the bullseye!

Why is that?
The scope is mounted properly and i rececked everything today, inculding another box test (not firing, only paper), torque values, etc. Everything is perfect. I didn’t accidentally moved the elevation turret.

Something came up to my mind: I used to keep ammo in a cooler room before but we are talking about a few degrees difference and i also zeroed the gun at 250 feet elevation and today i shot at 800 feet more or less. The temperature was also a bit warmer today and i was slightly on a slope
When shooting (a very mild slope so i was shooting from up to down. To me a difference of more than 2 inches at 110 yards is definitely too much. (2 inches talking into account that regulation i did moving 0.1
MIL down the shots before going hunting.


Could just my position behind the rifle on that terrain (very different from the Shooting range Conditions) Impact the POI This Much just because i am now using a bipod? The fact that the groups are still very tiny confuses me..

I should add that during the test in field conditions (after the hunt) the target was in the shade of some threes and i had the sunlight getting almost on my face directly, when i zeroed it was the opposite (i was in a pretty dark room at the range and the target was in full sunlight)

Mexican Senate President Floats a Plan to Annex Part of United States as Illegal Aliens Continue to Cause Mayhem in LA


One of the most powerful leaders in Mexico is floating a plan for his country to seize a large chunk of the United States’ land as the riots in Los Angeles continue to rage.

Senator Gerardo Fernández Noroña, the President of the Mexican Senate, responded to mayhem on Monday by promoting La Reconquista, a radical idea supported by individuals who want the American Southwest returned to Mexico. In his remarks to reporters in Mexico City, he revealed that he once told Trump he supported building and paying for a wall if it included the U.S. territories that were once part of Mexico.

“I was at Trump Tower when President-Elect Donald Trump was days away from taking the oath of office for the first time as President,” said Fernández Noroña. “I said ‘yes, we’ll build the wall, yes, we’ll pay for it, but we’ll do it according to the map of Mexico from 1830.”

Fernández Noroña then held up the 1830 map, which shows the states of California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and more as part of Mexico.

“If you can see, maybe a third or at least a quarter of the North American territory was part of Mexico until 1846,” he explained. “We were stripped of these territories.”

“We were settled there before the nation now known as the United States,” Fernández Noroña added. “The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo establishes rights for the people who were settled in those territories, which were not respected.”

After blabbering about the American city of Laredo and the Mexican city of Nuevo Laredo, the Mexican Senate President returned to Los Angeles.

“With this geography, how can we talk about liberating Los Angeles and California?” Fernández Noroña asked while holding up another map showing the American Southwest as part of Mexico. “Liberate them from who? The Mexicans who are settled in that place are settled in what has been their homeland.”

“The two names don’t deceive, the most spoken language in Los Angeles is Spanish,” he said with a smirk. “You don’t need to speak English to live in Los Angeles.”
“The United States government has the right to implement whatever immigration measures it deems appropriate, certainly,” Fernández Noroña added. “But they have no right to violate the dignity of migrants. They have no right to separate families.”

These remarks come just two days after Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum egged on the violent protesters and lashing out at the Trump Administration for even trying to lay down the law. During a speech in Mexico City, Sheinbaum hailed the rioters as “good men and women” who just want to support their families.

She also threatened another insurrection when she called for Mexicans in America to mobilize and take action if the U.S. decides to implement a tax on money sent home to Mexico. Remittances make up roughly 4% of Mexico’s gross domestic product.

Perhaps Mexico’s top leaders will change their tune if Trump raises tariffs on their country again and cuts off foreign aid.


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Non comp 22

Wanting to buy a descent 22, for general plinking and to have a cheap training/fundamentals gun. Currently have a savage 93/17 in it use, not very accurate, but going to pillar bed it to see if it helps. But really want a nice bolt 22, all I have right now is a couple 10/22s.

Option 1
Bergara b14r a little heavy, but I'm a big guy, most expensive out the gate. Lot of stock options if I don't like it, find something on the px

Option 2
Bergara bmr-x a little lighter and cheaper, doesn't have an adjustable cheek riser, I'm sure i could put something on it

Option 3
Tikka t1x i would probably throw it on a krg bravo, so it would end up about same price as b14. Not sure what this setup would weigh, I'm sure some one has this setup could tell me, currently leaning in this direction.

SOLD Schmidt and Bender 3-20 Non-US Tremor 2 $2600/shipped

Great condition Schmidt and Bender 3-20 Non US w/ DT turrets and Tremor 2 reticle. I’m the second owner so I don’t have the original box etc. but comes with Tenebraex covers. Has a couple small punctuate scratches on the scope tube from the previous owner. Has worked flawlessly for me. Selling to fund a lightweight hunting setup. Otherwise I’d be keeping it. $2600/shipped.

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