Recently while viewing Youtube videos on long range shooting, I have been surprised by the number or references made to the use of MOA versus MIL. Then when exploring Fierce Firearms, I learned they typically mount MOA scopes as that is what the largest segment of their customers desire. So I was just curious if I am just imagining this reversal in optic trends or if in fact MOA is making a comeback?

We are announcing our Spring Group Buy 2025. The Hide loved it last year for 6mm's and we're trying something a little different this year to accomodate the requests for different calibers. Since we can't really do a GB each month we decided to run a bunch of calibers in different bore sizes with a set quantity of each. 22, 6, 6.5, 7 and 30 cals

There are 100 barrels available total, when the SKU is gone it's gone. For example if someone wants a 6mm 7.5tw and there are only 6mm 7tw options left in the drop down then the 7.5's are already sold and the remaining option is to use 7tw or skip the GB.

A little side story: I've been running faster twist options in my personal barrels (22-7, 6mm-7, 6.5mm-7.5) for a lot of years now and I've never had anything but exceptional results with them. Especially the 6mm's with a 7tw, they've been fantastic for me since 2014 when I switched into a faster twist.

Here's the GROUP BUY LINK

For sale, one TBAC Bipod, no clamp included, has been lightly used at one 22 match.

375$ shipped to the lower 48. PayPal F&F or Venmo.

I am only using the short configuration of my suppressor so I don’t need this anymore. It’s 9” in length and meant for a 1.5” diameter suppressor. It was mounted on a bolt gun so never been exposed to mag dump heat. $SOLD shipped

.308 Defiance Deviant Tactical Action on an MPA Chassis built by Joe Walls. The 308 barrels is Krieger Palma Rem Varmint contours (see image) chambered for the Federal Gold Metal Match 185 Grain Juggernaut OTM ammo. Trigger is Bix'n Andy Competition. Just under 500 rounds on the 308 barrel that is mounted on the rifle. Bipod and sling included.

The three other barrels for this action are a new 6.5x47, a new 6 Creedmoor, and 6 Creedmoor with 75 rounds on it.

$2250 OBO. Shipped 2nd day insured to your FFL. PayPal FF, Venmo, CashApp, and Zelle.

Looking for a good solid thermal setup. Our predator season isn't but 2 months long so I don't want to spend a ton of money but I don't want some garbage resolution either. Something like a iray TL35 bolt i think would fit my budget and be what I need.

Finally got my reloading area setup and running. No more unstable tables. Bottom cabinets are for all the reloading equipment. What am I missing?

I acquired a second 16” SR-15 Mod 2 and don’t need two.

Ambi.
Unfired.

$3k with nitride BCG and E3.2 bolt
$3.4k with Chrome Sandcutter BCG and E3.2 bolt

Will not sell the sandcutter separately

I have optics I can package into a deal if interested as well.

Almost brand new KRG chassis, took it out to the range just once. Crimson Red color, and comes with the box.

$220 shipped

Picked this up in a trade with a fellow hide member and it's a little heavier than i remembered lol. Would like to trade for a mark 5 so it can run double duty on the hunting rifle. It’s a 4.5-27 in mils with Steiner high bubble level rings, body is in good condition, just normal wear marks, glass is flawless. Looking for a 5-25 mk5 preferably with a Pr-2 reticle. Will also sell.

Selling a Wilson combat 2 stage trigger used briefly on a large frame I no longer own. Pull weight is 4lb

Asking $100 shipped

Found some more of these. Sale includes the following quantities of bullets:
600 - Lot P01191302/2764018 (all sealed)
100 - Lot P01227803/1442119 (sealed)
85 - Lot P01191301/2754018
Price is $300 shipped to your door.
Not looking to separate lots, or for any trades at this time. Thanks.

I am the first owner and I used this optic on a pistol I dry fired in my house. No longer use the pistol and no longer need the optic. It’s in excellent condition. $SOLD shipped

Hello all,

I'm trying to work out a range log to help me keep track of results at the range. Currently it is in letter format, but I might try to condense it into a smaller page size. I'm sure I'm going a bit overboard on this but looking back over my notebook, I can see that I am forgetting to mark down key points. If anyone has a better idea or can offer ideas for improvements, it is greatly appreciated.

SOLD

$3299, $3,699.99, shipped to your FFL. No international shipping. See other restrictions, below.

I purchased new from JP Enterprises, and its just sat in my safe, unfired. So its time to pass it along. Here are the specs, and estimated current pricing of such.


I also added a JP arca swiss rail (JPHG-AP15, $110) and a Phase 5 extended bolt release ($60).

Not permitted to (and will not) ship to the following states: California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Washington State, and Washington, D.C.

Prefer a certified bank check or bank money order. Let's get on Facetime so you can see the rifle, and have any questions answered. Please PM me to arrange a time. Be careful what you post in this thread as there are scammers waiting to pounce.

Thanks for looking and please let me know if you have any questions.

Greetings all. Happy dance, I think I have my sons AR-10's figured out - they are kicking out brass at 3 o'clock and shooting straight.

With that said, on the optics front we have a 3 bears issue - one is wearing a 1-6 Razor, the other a 4-16 ATACR, and they seem to agree too little, too much respectively.

I believe "just right" is the Trijicon AccuPoint® 2.5-12.5x42 Riflescope


Maybe I'm a bad father, but I'm an MOA guy and so we're sticking with MOA for the purposes of this. I'm too dumb to divide by 10.

So with that said - am I missing anything that would be a better value for the ~ $1000 range for a 2-12 (ish) scope?

This is for a 16" 308, so as a practical matter we're a 600-800 yard gun due to home range and ballistic reality limitations.

Requirements - illumination, holdovers built into reticle, parallax adjustment, $1000 ish ceiling, real warranty, hold up to AR-10, and I feel like the Trijicon is already on the porky and long side at about 14" and 22.4 oz.

Am I missing any better options?

Hey yall, looking for other input on a new optic going on a woods deer rifle. This will be going on a straight wall cartridge so max range out to 250y. I'm looking at lower magnification ranges 2-10 or 3-9 SFP. I've looked at many different options but seems like the "dedicated" hunting scopes are mostly 1in tubes. It's not mandatory but ideally I'd like to have a 30mm tube for better lighting. Statistically, most of my shots will be at first/last light. Illumination is not mandatory but would be nice, I feel that reticle selection is more important.

I've kind of narrowed it down to:
Trijicon Huron 2.5-10x40
Leupold VX Freedom 3-9x40
Leupold VX5-HD 2-10x42

What else should I look at?

2 Magpul LR/SR AR10 mags new never had a round in them
1 - 20 rounder
1 - 25 rounder
$30 shipped for both
Thanks for looking
Cross listed

Everything is used but not abused.
Everything is for AR10 / LR308 rifles
DPMS claw $80
Wheeler lower reciever vise block $15
Pacific Tool and Gauge upper reciever truing tool $55
Barrel extension tool reaction rod $50
Upper reciever vise block $40
Trigger fixture - prevents damage to reciever when dry firing $10
$130 shipped
Thanks for looking
Cross listed

Wanting to buy a Solus long action, plus if you have a 7PRC 20inch carbon attached to it but I know that is a long shot lol

Wanted to make this thread for a sticky post for the load data, for those who are shooting a bolt-action 6mm ARC. @Lowlight

*** In case someone else reads this in the future, DO NOT use bolt-gun load data in a gas gun. Bolt guns can handle a lot more pressure. ***

Loaded up my first round of load development for my 16" Christensen Arms MPR. I'm running 1x fired and FL sized Hornady brass, CFE-223, CCI 400's, and Nosler 115 RDF's seated 0.007" off the lands, which works out perfectly at 1.700" in my rifle.

I'm using Hornady Match Grade (bushing) dies & shell holder, with a Short Action Customs .266" bushing, giving me around 0.0025-0.003" of neck tension.

I'm running all the way up to 29.0gr in 0.5 grain increments (first round of data is pressure baseline and finding a rough node pattern). I'll report back my findings when I get out to the range this weekend.

This is an open thread, anyone can post up their guns, load data, groups, videos, rifle experiences, or questions.

Athlon Thermal Update

We want to give you an update....There is a new firmware update for the 25P-250 and 35p-400, this update is to extend and maximize the battery life of the internal battery.

Here is the LINK for the thermal firmware update

Please note that the OTA update through android phone still require the user to connect to the thermal wifi first, go to about section, and then switch a house/work wifi to check for updates (do not close the APP during wifi switching), and then click update to download the firmware to the phone, and then switch back to thermal wifi to transfer the firmware to thermal, and last power off and on the thermal.

OTA update through iphone does not require the wifi switching as long as the phone has data plan that allows the user to download via cellular connection, meaning the user can stay on the thermal wifi throughout the entire process.

Using your PC is the recommended way to update, please note your PC must have a USB/C port to perform the update!

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I am currently building an electronic level and wanted to get some feedback on what features you all would like to see implemented. I know what’s on the market but I feel like there is room for improvement regarding functionality and feature set.
Please state your feature concept and why it’s you feel it’s needed.

~Jay

There used to be a thread on these on both the old site and the old-old site. I couldn't find it here, so I'm starting a new one. If this violates some policy mods, please kill it.

I make zero stops for a number of SWFA scopes. Details are below.

MilRad Turrets:
Fixed power non-HD models – the entire line. $27/set
3-15 X 42 $27/set
5-20 $27/set Note that SWFA recently declared the use of the shims on the 5-20 as approved. No more warranty issues.

MOA Turrets:
Currently Unavailable

There is an installation video here:

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Note that the video is for the original fixed power scopes, but the basic procedure is similar for all the different scopes. The actual number of shims and markings will vary from model to model.


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Hey guys,

Looking to get some feedback from the group running RMR/SRO/Aimpoint/etc on top of 20+ zoom scopes for target acquisition out to 900 yards. Is a more definitive small dot like a 1 moa RMR the way to go? Should an easier to pick up 6.5 MOA RMR be better? something in the middle?

Pictures with feedback is always appreciated. I would be running a Vortex Razor G2 4.5-27 and a Vortex impact 4000. Using a baldknobber diving board mount for the RMR/SRO for reference so i will be using an RMR. see below link and picture.