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Full length dies below SAMMI dimension?

I just resized some 7 PRC cases using Hornady full length dies. The brass is Hornady factory ammo once fired. After full length sizing I’m measuring 0.530” at base (above case head); SAMMI dimension is 0.532”. Aslso the neck is 0.314”; SAMMI is 0.317”. Is this normal to be a few thousandths smaller? Inside neck diameter is 0.281” which gives 0.003 neck tension which sounds reasonable.

SOLD M70 McMillan A2

Hey all,

I've had this stock sitting for years now. Decided I might as well sell it. It used to be on my SPR and has hinged floor plate bottom metal.

Below are some old pics of how it was on the rifle. I'll get more close ups and better pics tomorrow out in natural daylight.

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I want $600 plus whatever shipping is...

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This has SOLD already!

Look at my brass.

Playing with 155.5 bergers in my 300winmag. Loaded three on the upper end of the scale just to look for the limit. Loade 73,74, and 75gr of H4350. Book max is 74.

My chamber was built around the 215 so I'm jumping them almost 1/4"
With the long freebore there I was fairly comfortable with that 1gr over max.

Velocities as follows.
73gr- 3270
74gr- 3326
75gr- 3393

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Left to right, 73, 74, 75. All showing slight ejector marks, which 73, and 74 kind of surprised me. The primers don't really look bad on any of them though. No resistance on the bolt lift whatsoever.

Thoughts? Christiansen Arms Mesa vs Tikka T3X

I’m currently looking at getting a new bolt action rifle that will be used for an upcoming Elk hunt as well as some long range shooting and It’ll be in 300 Win Mag.

I’ve been doing a bunch of research and have nixed the Weatherby Vanguard, Remington 700 BDL, Howa 1500 and Winchester 70. So many things to look at that it makes your head spin. All were so close that it came down to personal preferences.

From the research I narrowed my choices down to the Mesa and T3X. Here I’m stuck as they both have very good pluses. The Tikka is cheaper by a few hundred but not enough to be the deciding factor.

Anyone have any opinion on these two? Appreciate it!

SOLD WTS: Glock 20 Gen 4 + Johnny Glock Evolution Combat Complete Trigger System + Tru Glow Suppressor Night Sights

Up for sale is a BNIB G20 Gen 4. It has a Johnny Glock Evolution X Combat Trigger + Vex Shoe and Striker installed. Also have a brand new set of Tru Glo suppressor height night sights not installed (I can install if you want or just include them). Factory parts will be included as well.

I bought it to build a 10mm Roland Special and never finished it.

G20.4 was $550ish
JG Trigger System was $370
Tru Glo Sights were $70ish

Asking $725 for everything. Willing to return the pistol back to stock and sell the trigger and sights separately. If I do that, I want $450 for the pistol, $325 for the trigger system, and $50 for the sights.

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SOLD 14.5 SCAR 20S

Fellas,
For your consideration, Scar 20S in 6.5 creedmoor with barrel cut to 14.5inch. This thing is a blast to shoot but doesn’t really fit the program here. About 200 rnds on the gun, zeroing, truing, nothing crazy. Pleasantly surprised to find out it pushes 140gr FGMM’s at over 2500FPS which makes it one heck of an ideal battle rifle.
Rifle just had my ASR brake un pinned, so I will ship rifle to your FFL, and barrel to you to avoid issues. It’s up to you to know your laws and do the right thing. Comes with 4 older kryloned 20rnd mags from my deployment days.

Asking 3300$ Shipped. Or I am always looking for certain trades. A larue MRGG, JP LTI 23 or just the upper of either, AT-X short NV bridge and hinge, any scope or spotting scope with Tremor 2/3/5 reticle plus or minus cash even a PVS 22 or 27 would be considered.

Rifle below with average groups, feel free to ask questions. Ask if you want to see more pics.
Thanks

SOLD Springfield Prodigy 5”

Selling Springfield Prodigy 5” with 3 mags (2 17 rd and 1 26 rd). Has trigger job with upgraded internals (2.5 lb trigger), Ed Brown ambi safety. All original parts included. Two optic plates included (A13B and A14B). Holosun 407c green mounted on now.
I have put around 300-350 rounds with zero malfunctions. Very accurate.
$1450 with optic, $1250 without.

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SOLD 50% Off Thunderbeast Cert

I'm looking to sell a 50% off cert. Per the cert, no cash value and cannot be combined with other offers. Must be directly redeemed from TBAC. Will send you code and/or mail cert, whatever works for you. Looking to get $300, if you want to get the new Magnus-RR SR Suppressor it will save you $580. Even more savings on the 338 Ultra RR

Thanks

Edited... apologies for the price typo

SOLD PST gen2 5-25

Selling a well taken care of PST gen 2 5-25. EBR2C mil reticle. Includes TPS .92” rings, Subrev throw lever, sunshade, and box. Glass is clean, small scratch on elevation turret, windage turret has minor brass rash. I tried to capture any blemishes in the photos. It has tracked true and has been a great optic, just sitting in the safe and needs a new home.

$600 shipped, insurance on buyer.

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SOLD Nightforce UltraLite Unimount - 34mm x 1.44" x 20 MOA - A275

NightForce UltraLite UniMount in Excellent Condition.

Model # A257 34mm x 1.44" x 20 MOA

I'll cover shipping & shipment insurance.

No trades. PayPal, Venmo, and Zelle will be accepted as payment methods. Friends and Family or the buyer must pay all fees for a 'Goods and Services' transaction.

The first "I'll take it" in this thread gets the item stated.

$167.23

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Optics WTS: Nightforce C569 ATACR 7-35x56 F1 MOAR

Brand new still in box. Bought for a project that never came together so figure it's time to sell.

$2750 shipped to your door, $2700 for face to face purchase in Kirkland, WA area. Happy to open box and take pics for buyer as well if that helps.

Not looking for any trades at this time, looking only for outright purchase.

Payment via Zelle, Venmo, USPS Money Order, Bank Check (up to 10 days to clear) or discrete Paypal F&F.

Happy to do face to face sale in Seattle eastside area (Bellevue, Redmond, Woodinville, Kirkland). Have references here in addition to my feedback history.

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Ammo Ammo Sell Down 300/308/556/45/12 (Black Hills, Barnes, Hornady TAP, Ranger T, etc..)

Selling factory new, interior stored ammo as listed below:

308 Hornady Black A-Max (168gr) 240 Rounds @ $275
308 Hornady Black A-Max (155gr) 160 Rounds @ $175

300 AAC Hornady TAP GMX (110gr) 600 Rounds @ $800

5.56 Black Hills GMX (70gr) 500 Rounds @ $800
223 Federal Tactical Gov't
Seconds (Z223T3FBISBC)(62gr) 1350 Rounds @ $1,050 (or 600 for $500)

45 ACP Winchester Ranger T +P (230gr) 500 Rounds @ $350
45 ACP Black Hills +P w/ Barnes XP (185gr) 220 Rounds @ $300
45 ACP Barnes Tac-X (185gr) 40 Rounds @ $25


DM me if you want pictures of the lot you are interested in.
No sales to prohibited individuals. 21+, to lawful states only (no CA, NY, NJ, CT, MA, WA, DC).
Venmo, Zelle, Check or MO.

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2A ALERT: VIRGINIA. VCDL URGENT LEGISLATIVE ACTION for pending gun bills. Salem gun show needs volunteers 01/18-19

ATTENTION Virginia residents:





1. URGENT VCDL Legislative Action Item




Two gun-rights bills and two gun-control bills are going to be heard THIS Thursday, January 16, at 4pm in the House Public Safety Firearms subcommittee held in House North Subcommittee Room 200.

Seven gun-control bills are going to be heard in the House Public Safety committee THIS Friday, January 17, at 8 am in House Committee Room A 008.

Click here to send a prewritten email to your Delegate to OPPOSE those nine gun-control bills. And click here to send a prewritten email to your Delegate to SUPPORT the two gun-rights bills.

If you can attend either of the meetings in person, that is a plus.

If you can’t attend in person, you can attend the Firearms subcommittee electronically by clicking here. At that link you can sign up to speak virtually and/or you can leave a written public comment on the four bills being heard in the subcommittee. Your written comments stay with the bills as they move through the General Assembly.

NOTE: The VCDL 2025 Legislative Tracking System is now up and running! https://vcdl-lis.org

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These are the nine gun-control bills with a description and notes for each bill:

HB 1597, Delegate Feggans, requires all firearms in a home, that are not being carried on or about a person, to be unloaded and placed in a locked container if there is a minor in the home or if there is a prohibited person in the home. A gun may only be stored loaded if it is in a biometric safe. Guns left in a vehicle must be secured in a locked box or container that is not visible from outside the vehicle, must be affixed to the vehicle, and the vehicle must be locked, too. Glove boxes and consoles cannot be used unless specifically designed for gun storage. Gun dealers must post signage about the law and there is also a provision to educate the public on firearm storage. Biometric safes are more expensive than non-biometric safes. Biometric safes can be unreliable when being used under stress and require batteries to work. Why are biometric safes the only option for storing a loaded firearm? This bill punishes the victim if their gun is stolen from a vehicle and the firearm is not stored per the requirements of this bill. Not all lock boxes have a way to be affixed to a vehicle. Not all lock boxes can be easily hidden. If a person is a passenger in someone else’s vehicle and must leave their gun in the car to use a restroom at a Virginia rest area, for example, they would have no way to comply with this bill.

HB 1607, Delegate Helmer, prohibits the sale, possession, transfer, and transport of an “assault firearm” made on or after July 1, 2025. It also prohibits sale, possession, transfer, and transport of an “assault firearm” to anyone under the age of 21. Magazines that hold more than 10 rounds and were made on or after July 1, 2025, are prohibited. The U.S. Supreme Court has said in both DC v Heller, and recently The New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v Bruen, that any firearm “in common use” is protected by the Second Amendment. The guns and magazines targeted by this bill are among the most common guns and magazines in the United States, making this bill unconstitutional.

HB 1608, Delegate Helmer,
allows one of the most highly regulated industries, the firearms industry, to be sued civilly for a variety of already illegal actions. It also holds the manufacturers and sellers of even the most benign of firearm accessories, like a butt stock or a gun case, liable to a civil lawsuit if it doesn’t “properly” protect that item from theft or misuse by a criminal. How could a firearm accessory seller reasonably know if they were selling a gun sling to a prohibited person? This bill is designed to have a chilling effect on all aspects of the firearms industry. At a time when the federal government is pulling FFL licenses for even the tiniest and most benign of paperwork mistakes, this bill is just piling on with more unreasonable ways to destroy the firearm industry.

HB 1622, Delegate Laufer, creates a $500 civil penalty and subjects a vehicle to towing if a person leaves a visible handgun in an unattended vehicle. The car owner should not be at fault even if a criminal opens an unlocked car door to steal a firearm. It is the criminal who is solely to blame. This bill would put a handgun in the possession of, and under the control of, a tow truck company! Punish criminals and stop harassing good people.

HB 1660, Delegate Jones,
redefines a “trigger activator” as a “conversion kit, tool, accessory, or device” that alters the rate of fire of a semi-automatic firearm to “mimic automatic weapon fire or used to increase the rate of fire to a faster rate than that possible for a person to fire such semi-automatic firearm unassisted…” The terms in this bill are so vague as to be meaningless. At what exact point does a firearm “mimic automatic weapon fire,” considering that different automatic firearms have different rates of fire? And how does someone determine what the rate of fire is for a person shooting a firearm unassisted? There are professional shooters, such as world champion Jerry Miculek, who can shoot a firearm without assisting devices at eye-popping speeds. Unadulterated semi-automatic firearms can be “bump fired” by simply holding them the right way.

HB 1797, Delegate Helmer,
severely restricts concealed handgun permit recognition with other states. Currently, Virginia honors permits from all other states, which, in turn, allows Virginians to be able to carry in most of those states. Permit holders from other states have been peacefully carrying in Virginia for years. This bill is an unjust and demeaning slap in the face to law-abiding Virginia gun owners, as it will reduce the number of states where a Virginia permit holder can carry a handgun for self-defense. It will also discourage gun owners outside of Virginia from visiting the Commonwealth, effecting the state’s economy. This bill is a solution in search of a problem.

HB 1869, Delegate McClure, makes battery in a “dating relationship” a misdemeanor and takes away the right to purchase, possess, or transport a firearm for three years. This amounts to a lifetime ban on firearms federally since it does not also take away, and restore, all civil rights. Misdemeanors should never take away a civil right. This will also not stand up to court challenge under the Supreme Court’s Bruen decision as there was no history or tradition of taking away a person’s right to keep and bear arms over misdemeanor battery of anyone.

HB 1876, Delegate Callsen, restricts firearms at public institutions of higher education by requiring such firearms be part of an authorized program or activity inside a building. A solution in search of a problem. Higher education students are adults and have a right to self-defense.

HB 1960, Delegate Bennett-Parker,
requires a person with a protective order against them or a person with a domestic violence conviction to surrender, sell, or turn their guns over to someone 21-years-old or older and someone who does not live with them. It requires the person to be advised that if a police officer believes they have not turned over all their guns, that the officer can get a search warrant to look for any such guns. There are multiple problems with the bill as written. If a husband and wife co-own a shotgun for home defense, for example, and the husband gets a protective order issued against him, the wife would no longer have access to that co-owned shotgun. That punishes the wife and needlessly endangers her life. There is also the question of not allowing a person 18 to 20-years-old to retain the guns. A person in that age range can legally possess rifles, shotguns, and handguns. Young adults should be able to hold the guns.

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These are the two gun-rights bills:

HB 1559, Delegate Williams, clarifies that a person who is renewing a concealed handgun permit does not have to provide any proof of training or demonstration of competence. This corrects a problem with some judges misreading the law.

HB 1569, Delegate Wiley, lowers the maximum concealed handgun permit fee from $50 to $25, by lowering the maximum local law-enforcement can charge for the background check from $35 to $10. Originally the maximum permit fee was set at $50, which included approximately $25 to go to the FBI for fingerprinting applicants. In 2012 the General Assembly repealed the fingerprinting requirement, but never got around to reducing the maximum permit fee accordingly. Clearly this change is long overdue. Background checks are now quick and easy for most applicants, causing many sheriffs in Virginia to do the background checks for free. $10 should more than cover the costs of the background check.




2. Help needed: Salem gun show THIS WEEKEND!




We need member-volunteers to staff the VCDL tables at the C&E Salem Gun Show January 18 - 19, 2025 held at the Salem Civic Center. Admission and parking are free. Many vendors may offer discounts to VCDL volunteers. VCDL will again offer FREE ADMISSION to those joining or renewing memberships at this event. Five volunteers per shift are needed to help:

Saturday the 18th,
8:00 AM to 12:30 PM
12:30 PM to 5:00 PM

Sunday the 19th,
9:00 AM to 1:00 PM
1:00 PM to 5:00 PM

Mark the dates on your calendars and contact Nat Weigle, Salem Gun Show Coordinator at [email protected] and sign up to join us. We have experienced cases where responses to volunteers have been sent to their spam/junk/quarantine folders. Please check these folders if you are expecting a response but have yet to see one. We certainly reply to all volunteers, as without your help we are powerless.

Please Note: Positions will be filled first-come-first-served. All volunteers working at a gun show or event must be current members of VCDL.

Is the Gaza Ceasefire a scam?

What do you guys think?

I know that Mossad has an advanced psychological profile of Trump (as if one needs to do all that to understand the guy's brain) and ALSO kompromat from Palm-Beach-to-Newark on the Lolita Express/ Epstein and ALSO various carrots to still offer him.

I think they just played him like a fiddle in the negotiation- before they fake a violation in Phase 2 of the deal, and beat him like a drum.

ALTERNATIVELY- he might be able to force them (economically and/ or militarily) to make good on their word in a Trump-II-era.

(For the first time ever, since time immemorial though?)