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338 Norma Loads
10/20/2014 Last edited 10/21/2014 by midgetorama

I am shooting a 9.5 twist Bartlein that finishes at 26".

With a 300 grain SMK I am getting slight ejector marks with 85.0 grains of IMR 7828 SSC and a CCI250 with Norma brass. Velocity is only 2715 fps.

The best accuracy with this bullet, powder, primer combo is 82.5 grains at 2632 fps. Single digit ES.

I am seating the bullet with a 0.025" jump.

I was expecting better velocity. I may try Retumbo eventually.
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midgetoramaXGunny Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
10/23/2014

300 SMK
GM215M
88.5 gr H-1000
COAL 3.565"
2690 fps with 12 fps ES over 10 shots
~0.233 MOA at 300 yards
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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
10/29/2014 Last edited 11/03/2014 by xdeano

Thank you for getting with us at Berger Bullets. We are glad to forward our updated Berger Load Data for use with your .338 Norma Magnum.

.338 Norma Magnum
300 Grain, PN: 33556 Bullet, CIP 3.681" COAL, 26" Barrel. 5/28/2014 RB
BulletPowderStart Load In GrainsApprox. Start VelocityMax. Load In GrainsApprox. Max. VelocityFill Ratio
300 GrainMagpro80.0249784.0261893%
300 GrainRE-3391.0254495.52689102%
300 GrainH-100081.5248085.62603102%
300 GrainRetumbo85.5253189.92655105%
300 GrainNorma MRP 281.0249785.32624100%
300 GrainViht. N57086.5254891.02694101%



Please do not hesitate to get back with us if we can be of further assistance for you.



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Berger Bullets Technical Support Team

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Hope this load info from Berger would help someone out.
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waveslayerXGunny Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
12/04/2014

300 SMK

3.60

Fed215

Retumbo 87.5

Velocity at 2712 SD=8

DTA, 22" .338 Norma Mag AI, a damn tack driver

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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
12/15/2014

For those of you shooting Cutting Edge Bullets.

.338 Norma Mag. 225 gr, Cutting Edge, MTH D62 SF

O. A.L: 3.681" = 93.50 mm Barrel: 28.0" = 711.2 mm

!!! - YOU MUST START 6 grains UNDER LISTED, and WORK UP - !!!
PowderLoading RatioCharge (Grn)Vel. (Fps)Prop.BurnEST max psi
Vihtavuori N560102.593 .5317099.763000

Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy)104.9100.23169100.063000

Accurate MAGPRO102.897.5316499.063000

IMR 7828 SSC101.292.8315699.863000

Alliant Reloder-22102.892.83140100.063000

Alliant Reloder-25108.095.93138100.061443

Vihtavuori N570108.0101.7310596.454345

Alliant Reloder-1999.789.03095100.063000

Hodgdon H4831 SC100.991.0307499.463000

IMR 435097.583.33069100.063000

IMR 483199.685.13032100.063000

Hodgdon Hl000108.095 .4302299.455473

Hodgdon Retumbo108.096.92967100.048127


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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
12/15/2014

.338 Norma Mag. 252 gr, Cutting Edge, MTH D65

O.A.L: 3 .681" = 93.50 mm Barrel: 28.0" = 711.2 mm

! !! - YOU MUST START 6 grains UNDER LISTED, and WORK UP - !!!

PowderLoading RatioCharge (Grn)Vel. (Fps)Prop.BurnEST max psi
Vihtavuori N570

108.097 .6

300198 .057844

Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy)103.494.8

2997100.063000

Vihtavuori N560100.988.3

299699.963000

Accurate MAGPRO

101.292.2

299399.563000

IMR 7828 SSC99.787.7

2982100.063000

Alliant Reloder-25107.091.2

2979100.063000

Alliant Reloder-22101 .287.7

2964100.063000

Hodgdon H1000108 .091.5

290599.958589

Hodgdon H4831 SC99.486 .1

290599.863000

Hodgdon Retumbo108.093.0

2859100.051060


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Re: 338 Norma Loads
02/25/2015

Any more load info to share? Particularity the 300gr Hybrid on top of H-1000?
I'm interested in velocity people are seeing out of 26" to 27" tubes.
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
02/27/2015

Any one try US869. 1smalljohnson told me to give it a try. I've just started messing with it. The highest I went was 99 grains and if I remember correctly I was in the mid 2700s. This was with a Berger 300 out of a 26" barrel. I'll post more after this weekend hopefully.
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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/11/2015

Im pushing the 300 otms at 2785fps.
88.7grns h1000
Fed 215mag primer
In a 26" tube, suppressed.
It shoots very well at a mile.

Xdeano

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--- Thrust911 wrote:

Any more load info to share? Particularity the 300gr Hybrid on top of H-1000?
I'm interested in velocity people are seeing out of 26" to 27" tubes.

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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/11/2015

I have a good buddy that is using us869 in his 300rum pushing 230s. Ive thought about it, but what he is running into is a lot of carbon buildup, carbon ring.

If a guy is looking for a powder, definitely give rl33 a shot. Ive ran some of it and it gives excellent velocities.

Xdeano

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Any one try US869. 1smalljohnson told me to give it a try. I've just started messing with it. The highest I went was 99 grains and if I remember correctly I was in the mid 2700s. This was with a Berger 300 out of a 26" barrel. I'll post more after this weekend hopefully.

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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/11/2015

Here is some info on rl33.
97.7grns rl33
300grn berger otm.
215mag
2863fps 26" barrel
3.725" coal - single load.
Es 14.22
Sd 7.00
This gave me a 0.103" center to center group at 100yds.

I did a quick velocity check prior to loading for groups.
1. 95.0grn-2738fps
2. 96.0grn-2788
3. 97.0grn-2732 - velocity dip.
4. 98.0grn-2861
5. 99.0grn-2899 - hard bolt lift

I shot these 5 rounds at 300yds and the resulting group was 2".
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/17/2015

How did you manage to fit that much powder in the case with that longgggg 300gr Berger?

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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/17/2015 Last edited 03/17/2015 by xdeano

BobLSwagger wrote:
How did you manage to fit that much powder in the case with that longgggg 300gr Berger?​
It'll fit...

I know it seems like a lot, but the density of the RL33 is higher then say H1000 where you'd have a hell of a time with 90grns.

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/17/2015

xdeano wrote:
BobLSwagger wrote:
How did you manage to fit that much powder in the case with that longgggg 300gr Berger?​
It'll fit...

I know it seems like a lot, but the density of the RL33 is higher then say H1000 where you'd have a hell of a time with 90grns.

xdeano​
Looks like I'm going to have to give the reloader 33 a shot in my .338 Warthog... (.338 NMAI). I'm currently running 93gr of Retumbo with Berger 300gr OTM's @ 2893fps out of a 28" Bartlein 1:9.3

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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/18/2015

Definitely worth the try. You'll see how dense the 33 is.

xdeano
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/18/2015

Theflyingpole wrote: Any one try US869. 1smalljohnson told me to give it a try. I've just started messing with it. The highest I went was 99 grains and if I remember correctly I was in the mid 2700s. This was with a Berger 300 out of a 26" barrel. I'll post more after this weekend hopefully.​
I've got some data for you on the US869.
90.0 - 101.3grns US869
300grn bullet
@100.0grns = 2710fps

Now this is not my data so start low and work up. Same as usual.

xdeano
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Eric608XPrivate
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/19/2015

Has anyone tried the Lapua 300 grain bullets?
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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/20/2015

Whats the question? They will work just fine.
Xdeano

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Has anyone tried the Lapua 300 grain bullets?

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
03/24/2015

My 28" Lilja 1-10 got:



2825 with 90,6 grains Norma 217 behind a 300 Berger Hybrid. COL: 3.6393.

2694 with 88,0 grains Norma MRP2 behind a 300 Berger Hybrid. COL: 3.6393.

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
04/23/2015 Last edited 04/23/2015 by garandman

89.0 gr of H-1000 with 300gr Berger OTM

3.602 Cartridge Length ... I'm a couple thousandths off the lands.

Averaging close to 2800 fps from 27" bbl.

5-shot groups were 1.125 @ 200 yards.

I managed one 3-shot group at 200y for 0.625" NOT sure I could reproduce it.



I'd strongly recommend Berger boolits across the board. My 6.5 CM loves them too. Super high ballistic coefficient on both calibers.



My Retumbo tests for 338NM were averaging 2715 fps.

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
06/28/2015

26" bartlein 10 twist,

300 berger, 3.656" oal, 85.0 grains IMR 7977, 2710 fps

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
07/26/2015 Last edited 07/26/2015 by NormaMag

xdeano

Close to 2900 fps from a 338 Norma out of a 26" barrel?

How is brass life?

I`m building a 338 Norma with a 30" Pacnor 1-9 twist barrel and hoping for 2850 fps with good brass life.

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xdeanoXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
08/03/2015

brass life seems to be good. I'm not running a lot of the rl33. my main load is h1000 which i have previously listed on this page. but with RL33 a guy can get up there in velocity. Just giving the guys some insight. My numbers will vary from others.



xdeano

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
01/28/2016

Just saw this. Thanks. Life got in the way and I haven't messed with this in ages. Hopefully this weekend.

> xdeano wrote:
> > Theflyingpole wrote:> > Any one try US869. 1smalljohnson told me to give it a try. I've just started messing with it. The highest I went was 99 grains and if I remember correctly I was in the mid 2700s. This was with a Berger 300 out of a 26" barrel. I'll post more after this weekend hopefully.> I've got some data for you on the US869.
90.0 - 101.3grns US869
300grn bullet
@100.0grns = 2710fps

Now this is not my data so start low and work up. Same as usual.

xdeano​
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SPAK7XFirst Sergeant
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Re: 338 Norma Loads
06/19/2016 Last edited 06/19/2016 by SPAK7

Bartlein 30" 9:5 twist suppressed
89.0gr H1000 fed 215 Berger 300 otm coal 3.675"
2825fps sd 9
Barrel only has 72 rounds on it. Might see some increase in speed with some more rounds down the tube. We'll see.

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
07/05/2016 Last edited 07/05/2016 by Thrust911

Area 419 built Deviant action in AI AX CIP length chassis.
Hawk Hill, 9.3 Twist, 27" tube.

215 Primer
88gr H1000 - zero pressure signs.

300gr Hybrid -- 2773 FPS avg SD 3
285gr Amax -- 2789 FPS avg SD 11.5

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
08/16/2016

Settled on 89gr of H1000 pushing a 300gr Berger. Shot it on a ridiculously hot day...occasional ejector swipe, primers look good, no sticky bolt. At 1071 yards it hits steel with authority.

15k off the lands
AVG 2809FPS, SD of 4.3, ES of 9

Also will note that for my barrel the POI is the same for both 88gr and 89gr of H1000.

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
09/25/2016

Has anyone tried any 256 Flatlines yet?

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
09/25/2016

inferno218 wrote:

Has anyone tried any 256 Flatlines yet?​
Not yet but it's definitely on the to do list...the 255 flatliners definitely have my attention for the Norma.

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Re: 338 Norma Loads
10/08/2016

I started working on my Warner 256 the other day and i think i am close to a load. I will have a chrono out next week and will post up numbers with load info.

SOLD 300Blk Upper - $500

Ran about 400 rounds of subsonics through it but use my MCX more. The upper was trimmed to run with a Super Safety, can't tell it was trimmed (ran like a champ).

BCM Upper
V7 6.5" 300Blk 1:5 Twist
Seekins MCSR V2 9" Handguard
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The handguard accepts 1.7" wide suppressors.

SPF shipped to you. If you want the SilencerCo 5/8x24 tri-lug add another $75.

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Firearms Remington 700 CP 6.5 creedmoor 12.5” pistol w/ brace

I’ve had this a couple years. Planned to put a Q sliding brace on it and never did. Then I planned to put it in the XLR Atom chassis (other listing) and never did. Typical.

It’s in the original box. Great for a small backpack or truck gun. Never shot it.

It’s been ceracoated FDE and the stock is a sniper grey. Small k model magpul grip and magpul magazine.

Not sure what they go for now. Hard to figure out a price. Not many on the secondary market. It is a pistol. Sent from Remington as a pistol.

Asking $1600 OBO shipped. PM offers and will if you have questions. No trades at this time.
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SOLD PWS Alpha LT 14.5 upper

Recently purchased this, has maybe 50 rounds on it. It's a very good shooter with minimal recoil I just can't convince myself to like the 14.5" length. I prefer shorter barrels apparently, either way my loss is your gain. Mine currently has a KAC QDC flash hider, I have other mounts if you happen to need or want something else. Doesn't include all the rail scales or the optics, it's just the upper receiver.
asking $1000 shipped

here's the specs:
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Accessories McLeod Precision - MPA BA Comp Bag Rider

I made this bag rider for my rifle. I wanted something that was smooth and rounded all the way around the sides (full radius cut edges) to better fit against my tripod for rear support. Of course, still be good for rear bag use. Worked out well. I used to run the plastic dog leg looking bag rider from MPA (forget the name) and it sucked for rear tripod.

It is 4.9" long X 1.4" wide X 0.4" thick. 6061 Aluminum machined.

I have no idea if anyone is interested in these, I did not plan to make a run of them. MPA has a nice mostly flat one too for $50 bucks, I just saw no reason to buy one when I can make one on my machines.

Figured I would post it here and see if anyone is interested. Probably $40 shipped with Carbon Grey or Black Cerakote is what I would do. The one I cut for my rifle in the pic is Carbon Grey.

This fits my BA Comp using the 3 hole pattern on the bottom of the butt stock with 8-32 screws countersunk (see pic). May fit other MPA rifles, check for the hole pattern.

If I get say 6 folks interested, I will cut a run of them. Reply on this thread or PM me if interested.

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SOLD Impact Prefit — 6GT 1.25 Straight (Package)

Catch and release (mostly).
Sticking with the BRA.

Bought it from a fellow hide member,
some months ago,
here are the specs per them:

26"
5/8 threads
mullerworks
impact
1.25 straight contour
7.5 twist
6 GT
.120 freebore
Beanland Cut

It was new, but now has 83 rounds total on it.

Would like to sell as a package:
+ MDT Comp Brake
+ ATS XL Tuner

All for:
$old

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Selling my LIKE NEW PRS Scope Top Bundle. I purchased and assembled this setup for scope top mounting for target acquisition. Not using it in the end.
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Firearms Atlas Nyx for sale

Atlas Nyx for sale. Purchased in fall of 2024. Less than 500 rounds. 4.25” barrel. Sub 2lb trigger. Surefire light included. Three Atlas magazines (17 rounds) with Atlas range bag. Very clean.

Also included are the 2024 limited edition laser grip panels.

$4250 and free shipping to the compliant states.

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