Accessories Bell & Carlson Medalist Stock with bottom Metal
- By gunrunr
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Optics FS Black Vortex Gen 3 Razor 1-10 mil $$$1600 shipped$$$
- By gunn317
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Like new with pin sized scuff on battery cover just put in rings black gen 3 razor 1-10 mil reticle. Had a change of heart in the direction I was going. Mount is sold
Scope only 1600 shipped and insured
Scope only 1600 shipped and insured
Night Vision Sig ECHO CV25 LWIR 640x512 Thermal Clip-On
- By smarcus
- Observation & Sighting Devices
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Savage 10 Ashbury 308 simple review and range feedback
- By Tigrexar
- Bolt Action Rifles
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Got this rifle(308) last Nov, during discount to $1,000, Savage $150 rebate and used all my 80% Cabela`s gift cards bought at Ebay, end up cost me around $650, definitely a budget rifle on a tacticool chassis stock. Would prefer more on 6.5 CM but local store out of stock and don`t want to wait for 3 weeks shipping.
Here`s a first look, since winter weather in Alaska...barely shoot it at pleasant environment during winter time and some small issues need adjustment, I finally zeroed it and tested shooting at 100 yard for accuracy. Much cheaper compared to RPR, and that`s the main reason I got this rifle.
Couple of things I want to mention before the range results, since this is my first "precision rifle" I guess.
1. Folding joint extended stock for 2 inches, and my Barra 4-16 scope got a rather close eye relief, even I mount the scope to the very rear end of rail, my mouth still too close to the damn folding joint, recoil my kick my teeth out....I bought off-set rings to put the scope around 1.5 inch closer to rear, problem solved.
PS: The scope itself is good for the price, I spend $200 for a 4-16 illuminated scope and a 4-12 entry level scope. Both have very clear glasses, similar to my Nikon Prostaff , I`m happy with the price. Shooting on 308 and 30-06, both hold zero well over 100 rounds.
2. The original CTR stock came with a medium cheek riser, I do prefer Magpul PRS stock, or those adjustable stocks like Luther AR or the one on RPR, CTR is able to lock tight, however rubber pad doesn`t help with recoil at all and it was not comfortable to shoot all day. Again I can`t find a Limbsaver for Magpul at local stores, and Amazon refuse to ship to Alaska, I ended up bought a cheap muzzle brake with shim washers on Ebay, reduced recoil, annoyed people at adjacent lanes, and luckily didn`t affect accuracy. I do feel sorry when I saw an old man have his grandson shooting a 223 with $900 suppressor in the lane next to me, and I`m banging my extra loud 308.
3. The hand guard is at same height of rail, so if your scope got rather large object lens(mine is 56mm), you may need extra-high rings to raise it up.
4. Accrutrigger feels good, no need to lower it. AICS pattern magazine only, not like RPR, which can take both. Putting on magazine is not so smooth but works fine.
5. Bolt movement is not smooth either, compared to my Tikka T3 stainless, but with CLP it won`t bother me.
On the range
Happy about barrel temperature. Somehow my Tikka T3 stainless 30-06 gets hot fast even in Alaska winter outdoor(10 F), only takes like 10 rounds fired at 30s-45s/round frequency, and the POI will move 1.5 inch toward bottom left, grouping expands to 1.5 MOA. Savage APO`s barrel gets warm but not hot after 20 continues fires, grouping and POI stays same(as much as I can notice at 100 yard).
I also tested out different factory ammo and here`s the results.
Shooting position is bench rest, bipod on front and sandbag under left arm to hold rifle.
I thought FGMM 185 gr bullets will be more stable on this 24 inch 1:10 twist rate barrel, but seems 168 gr works better, could because shooter error. I was testing 185 gr at end, maybe eyes got tired. The Sig Sauer Elite Performance works really well on this rifle. probably 0.6 MOA, but I`m out of this ammo on range, I did my 5 groups X 5 shots/group test using FGMM 168 gr.
5X5 Grouping results at 100 yard, about 15 mph side direction wind. Wind should not be a factor at 100 yard for 308.
The free phone app called "SubMoa" on app store, not so easy to use allows me to save all shooting results with detailed condition, convenient for reloading.
The average grouping is 0.72 MOA at 100 yards, based on 5X5, 25 rounds test, with factory ammo and factory rifle. I`m totally satisfied with this results, especially knowing that if I`m shooting Sig Sauer Elite Performance 168 gr, the results could be maybe 0.1 MOA better. Now I`m thinking of getting reloading gear and improve better performance, and reach to further distance!
That`s all about my Savage 10 Ashbury.
I would greatly appreciate it if anyone can give me suggestion on reloading data for this barrel (.308 24 in, 1:10 twist). Also if I want to improve accuracy performance, is there any upgrades I can make to this rifle?
Here`s a first look, since winter weather in Alaska...barely shoot it at pleasant environment during winter time and some small issues need adjustment, I finally zeroed it and tested shooting at 100 yard for accuracy. Much cheaper compared to RPR, and that`s the main reason I got this rifle.
Couple of things I want to mention before the range results, since this is my first "precision rifle" I guess.
1. Folding joint extended stock for 2 inches, and my Barra 4-16 scope got a rather close eye relief, even I mount the scope to the very rear end of rail, my mouth still too close to the damn folding joint, recoil my kick my teeth out....I bought off-set rings to put the scope around 1.5 inch closer to rear, problem solved.
PS: The scope itself is good for the price, I spend $200 for a 4-16 illuminated scope and a 4-12 entry level scope. Both have very clear glasses, similar to my Nikon Prostaff , I`m happy with the price. Shooting on 308 and 30-06, both hold zero well over 100 rounds.
2. The original CTR stock came with a medium cheek riser, I do prefer Magpul PRS stock, or those adjustable stocks like Luther AR or the one on RPR, CTR is able to lock tight, however rubber pad doesn`t help with recoil at all and it was not comfortable to shoot all day. Again I can`t find a Limbsaver for Magpul at local stores, and Amazon refuse to ship to Alaska, I ended up bought a cheap muzzle brake with shim washers on Ebay, reduced recoil, annoyed people at adjacent lanes, and luckily didn`t affect accuracy. I do feel sorry when I saw an old man have his grandson shooting a 223 with $900 suppressor in the lane next to me, and I`m banging my extra loud 308.
3. The hand guard is at same height of rail, so if your scope got rather large object lens(mine is 56mm), you may need extra-high rings to raise it up.
4. Accrutrigger feels good, no need to lower it. AICS pattern magazine only, not like RPR, which can take both. Putting on magazine is not so smooth but works fine.
5. Bolt movement is not smooth either, compared to my Tikka T3 stainless, but with CLP it won`t bother me.
On the range
Happy about barrel temperature. Somehow my Tikka T3 stainless 30-06 gets hot fast even in Alaska winter outdoor(10 F), only takes like 10 rounds fired at 30s-45s/round frequency, and the POI will move 1.5 inch toward bottom left, grouping expands to 1.5 MOA. Savage APO`s barrel gets warm but not hot after 20 continues fires, grouping and POI stays same(as much as I can notice at 100 yard).
I also tested out different factory ammo and here`s the results.
Shooting position is bench rest, bipod on front and sandbag under left arm to hold rifle.
5X5 Grouping results at 100 yard, about 15 mph side direction wind. Wind should not be a factor at 100 yard for 308.
The free phone app called "SubMoa" on app store, not so easy to use allows me to save all shooting results with detailed condition, convenient for reloading.
The average grouping is 0.72 MOA at 100 yards, based on 5X5, 25 rounds test, with factory ammo and factory rifle. I`m totally satisfied with this results, especially knowing that if I`m shooting Sig Sauer Elite Performance 168 gr, the results could be maybe 0.1 MOA better. Now I`m thinking of getting reloading gear and improve better performance, and reach to further distance!
That`s all about my Savage 10 Ashbury.
I would greatly appreciate it if anyone can give me suggestion on reloading data for this barrel (.308 24 in, 1:10 twist). Also if I want to improve accuracy performance, is there any upgrades I can make to this rifle?
SOLD JAE Gen 4 Stock Titanium Blue, NIB - Offers Considered
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Accessories SOLD: TriggerTech Diamond AR-15 Trigger
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Accessories Complete Noveske 11.5” Midlength Upper with KAC URX4 Handguard and Optics Package
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Accessories FN 509 Mags
- By big_beau13
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FN509 magazines, 15 rounders, like new.
40$ each
250$ for all of them
40$ each
250$ for all of them
Consistency, or lack thereof
- By Josh Umsted
- Reloading Depot
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Been reloading .308 for a year, upgrading rifle and reloading components one piece at a time, pursuing consistent 1 MOA accuracy. Have achieved good to great results on occasion, but the only thing consistent is that my loads consistently turn to shit the next day.
Shot these two groups recently, thinking I had it. Ive thought that before. There were 20 shots total, the other two groups a little larger but still under 1”. SD 8. ES 12. 20 shots. Avg velocity velocity 2640.
That was the last of the Varget jug. New lot runs about 40fps faster. Tried that, then went down from 42.8 to 42.2gn. Velocity was all over the place. Avg was close to targeted 2740fps. Groups were shit.
Well, I have 100 Lapua cases and maybe 400 Federal cases. Federal isn’t all the same lot and hasn’t been sorted by volume or weight. Maybe the universe won’t let me get away with that and wants me to get more Lapua.
Today, it was Lapua brass, 42.2gn Varget, SMK 168, CCI 210, and a pile of shit. ES 50. SD 18. WTF?
Compared that to what I thought was a good load from a few months ago with Berger 168’s, left over from a match. It wasn’t good. Big groups and big numbers.
Rifle is Remington 700 action, Criterion 24” light varmint, MDT Oryx, Nightforce NX8 4-32.
Reloading equipment is old RCBS rockchucker, charge master light, Redding full length sizing die set to bump shoulder .002”, Forster ultra micrometer seating die, and a 21st century expander mandrel. I trim every time with a Lee deluxe trimmer, if for nothing else, to chamfer the inner neck. On Federal brass it leaves a weird flange around the mouth of the case, which was suspect, and couldn’t be cleaned up with a hand deburring tool. On Lapua brass, no noticeable flange or weirdness around the mouth.
Recently started trying to anneal by hand, rotating case necks under flame until too hot for my fingers. It’s probably inconsistent and may be doing more harm than good. Neck tension and seating force feel much more consistent since using mandrel, Forster seater and annealing.
I suspect the Rockchucker is inadequate, but can’t imagine it’s the main problem. Haven’t checked concentricity. Why buy a gauge only to tell me my process is fucked? I dunno. Had faith the new Chargemaster was accurate, but will need to check that, too. My other scale is a super old Rcbs digital, so not sure how much that will tell me, if anything.
Gonna get a few hundred more Lapua brass to eliminate that variable. Haven’t tried all the bullets or all the powders. Haven’t tried all the expander mandrels. .3065 worked better than .306”.
If there’s anything obvious I could be doing better, feel free to point it out. I’m thinking a few imperfections are adding up to a big imperfection. Then there’s the human factor. I’m not a perfect shot but want my rifle to shoot better than me, and it doesn’t.
Shot these two groups recently, thinking I had it. Ive thought that before. There were 20 shots total, the other two groups a little larger but still under 1”. SD 8. ES 12. 20 shots. Avg velocity velocity 2640.
That was the last of the Varget jug. New lot runs about 40fps faster. Tried that, then went down from 42.8 to 42.2gn. Velocity was all over the place. Avg was close to targeted 2740fps. Groups were shit.
Well, I have 100 Lapua cases and maybe 400 Federal cases. Federal isn’t all the same lot and hasn’t been sorted by volume or weight. Maybe the universe won’t let me get away with that and wants me to get more Lapua.
Today, it was Lapua brass, 42.2gn Varget, SMK 168, CCI 210, and a pile of shit. ES 50. SD 18. WTF?
Compared that to what I thought was a good load from a few months ago with Berger 168’s, left over from a match. It wasn’t good. Big groups and big numbers.
Rifle is Remington 700 action, Criterion 24” light varmint, MDT Oryx, Nightforce NX8 4-32.
Reloading equipment is old RCBS rockchucker, charge master light, Redding full length sizing die set to bump shoulder .002”, Forster ultra micrometer seating die, and a 21st century expander mandrel. I trim every time with a Lee deluxe trimmer, if for nothing else, to chamfer the inner neck. On Federal brass it leaves a weird flange around the mouth of the case, which was suspect, and couldn’t be cleaned up with a hand deburring tool. On Lapua brass, no noticeable flange or weirdness around the mouth.
Recently started trying to anneal by hand, rotating case necks under flame until too hot for my fingers. It’s probably inconsistent and may be doing more harm than good. Neck tension and seating force feel much more consistent since using mandrel, Forster seater and annealing.
I suspect the Rockchucker is inadequate, but can’t imagine it’s the main problem. Haven’t checked concentricity. Why buy a gauge only to tell me my process is fucked? I dunno. Had faith the new Chargemaster was accurate, but will need to check that, too. My other scale is a super old Rcbs digital, so not sure how much that will tell me, if anything.
Gonna get a few hundred more Lapua brass to eliminate that variable. Haven’t tried all the bullets or all the powders. Haven’t tried all the expander mandrels. .3065 worked better than .306”.
If there’s anything obvious I could be doing better, feel free to point it out. I’m thinking a few imperfections are adding up to a big imperfection. Then there’s the human factor. I’m not a perfect shot but want my rifle to shoot better than me, and it doesn’t.
Maztech OEM LRF Modules Now Available
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Maztech X4-LRF OEM modules are now for sale. 
Unit price is $3495 with discounts available for volume orders. These modules have the same performance specs as our standalone 15K rangefinders.
Those who are interested can fill out the form at the bottom of this page.
Unit price is $3495 with discounts available for volume orders. These modules have the same performance specs as our standalone 15K rangefinders.
Those who are interested can fill out the form at the bottom of this page.
