Got this in a trade and not really my thing. Front sight is fiber optic and the grips are aftermarket. Price is 1000 shipped, buyer covers any payment fees.

Box not included

As stated above, 397 pieces. Once fired factory Hornady brass. All from the same lot, fired from the same Stuteville chamber. Clean and in good condition this was mostly practice ammo on square/clean ranges. I can tumble it before shipping if you ask nicely. $115 shipped to you. PP, Venmo, carrier pigeon.

JAE tikka comes with:

Jae Bag rider
Jae NV bridge
Sawtooth side rail M-Lok adapters
JAE Arca rail
and everything else pictured

$1500 shipped conus

I have these couple of Lothar Walther made Accuracy International barrels. The top one is for an AW. Anyone know what the bottom barrel is for? It obviously has differences in the tenon from the AW barrel. And can it be made to work on an AW? Thanks in advance.

New
Mark 5HD
3.6-18x44 M5C3
-PR2-MIL Reticle
First Focal Plane
35mm, FDE

1800 shipped

Hill People Gear Original Kit Bag, Ranger green, full size version.

Excellent condition, no frays, rips or tears. Zippers are smooth and perfect. No discoloration, but a little bit of dirt worked into the nylon on the front bottom left as you look at the pic (can't even see it in the pic). I carried a G21 in it with no fitment issues. It is very comfortable for all-day wear.

$115 $100 shipped. No trades. Discreet PP F&F (preferred), venmo, check/mo.

Decided to take some groups pics of M1A replicas earlier this month. These are basically replicas of US Army M14 sniper and DMR/SDM rifles, beginning in 1967 and used until 1988 when the M21 rifles were officially designated as obsolete - but despite Big Army's decision - a few M14s were quietly developed as 'M21 Product Improved' versions by the 10th Special Forces Group in the late 1980s/early 1990s...

...and fast forward to the early-to-mid 200Xs, when an urgent operational need resulted in thousands of basically rack-grade M14s being quickly pulled from storage and resurrected as DMR or Squad Designated Marksman rifles, along with a wide variety of ad hoc/improvised optics and mounts. My replica from that era represents a somewhat more official variant that was purpose-built and accurized by Smith Enterprise Inc for the U.S. Army, initially called an M14SE "Crazy Horse" rifle, and later designated the M21A5. I’m not sure when the M21A5s were withdrawn by the 2nd Infantry Division and 101st Airborne, but my guess is early 201Xs, when the M14 EBR-RIs were rolled out as the Army's standard 7.62 SDM rifle.

Lastly, the M14 EBR-RI (Enhanced Battle Rifle - Rock Island Arsenal) with a black SAGE chassis system was the last stop for U.S. Army combat M14 SDMs, service life was circa 2009 to approximately 2018. (My replica of this variant is a work in progress).

Top: U.S. Army M21A5 Squad Designated Marksman (SDM) rifle (aka 'M14SE Crazy Horse' rifle) w/ Leupold 3.5-10x scope, circa mid-200Xs to early 201Xs.
2nd from top: U.S. Army 'late' M21 sniper rifle w/ 3-9x ART II scope, circa early 1980s to early 1990s.
3rd from top: U.S. Army XM21/'early' M21 sniper rifle w/ 3-9x AR-TEL scope, circa 1969 to early 1980s.
Bottom: U.S. Army 'Improvised National Match M14 sniper rifle' w/ 2.2x M84 scope and Army Weapons Command (AWC) scope mount, circa 1967 to the end of the Vietnam War. (NSN: 1005-937-8777, 'M14 NM Rifle with M84 scope')

Right side:


Left side:


Left side optics: The below pic shows 40-years of advancement regarding M14 optic systems and scope mounts. From the bottom mount circa 1967 with the little M84 (2.2x), 7/8" diameter scope with a condensation-prone tube and a not very stable single attachment-point mount, to the variable 3-9X AR TEL & ART II scopes w/ improved scope mounts used from roughly 1969 to the early 1990s - to the tan-colored optic at the top, circa 2007, a Leupold 3.5-10x Tactical scope w/ illuminated TMR reticle, 30mm nitrogen gas-filled tube, adjustable parallax, and a solid 3-point scope attachment system.



Not shown in the above group picture, but below is a replica of a unique "post-M21 Product Improved" variant used by the U.S. Army Special Forces that was internally designated as an XM25 (or M25) sniper rifle. These were not an official 'Program of Record' and were sort-of unofficially developed in the late 1980s/early 1990s at Ft Devens by the 10th Special Force's Group. They used various commercial parts, such as McMillan fiberglass stocks; some of which were bedded with a BPT steel stock liner, along with medium or heavy profile commercial 1:10 or 1:11 twist match barrels, BPT scope mounts, and typically either Leupold or B&L fixed 10x scopes. Their service history is not well documented, one source noted that only 200 at most were built, but they were reportedly first used in Panama circa December 1989, followed by Operation Desert Storm in 1991. Some were equipped w/ sound suppressors and AN/PVS-4 night vision scopes, and a few might have been used in Afghanistan circa 2002, but again, that SOCOM/SF-based history is based on anecdotals. (The Naval Surface Warfare Center at Crane subsequently took over responsibility for building precision M14s for the SOCOM community).



The last combat-deployed M14 rifles used by the U.S. Army were the M14 EBR-RI rifles. Approximately 6200 EBR-RIs were made at Rock Island Arsenal during 2009-2011, and they were in service from 2009 to approximately 2018 as the 7.62 NATO Squad Designated Marksman (SDM) rifle, but I think all of them have now been withdrawn. (Some have apparently been sold to U.S. allies via the Foreign Military Sales program). I hope to complete my EBR-RI replica in 2021 with what I suspect is a take-off EBR scope (dated 2009), but unlike the originals, my replica EBR will have a medium weight barrel instead of a standard weight USGI barrel; and an early 'Pat Pending' SAGE chassis, so it won't be completely 'correct' but pretty close. The parts still need to be zinc-parkerized before the build, but it's coming along...



In essence, these 6 replicas try to provide reasonable representations of official and quasi-official varieties of precision, optic-equipped M14s used by the U.S. Army, on-and-off, over a roughly 50-year period (circa late 1960s to late 201Xs). It’s an old-school platform, but I still like the old M1s and M1As.

Happy Holidays, and stay safe.

Used to load a few dummy rds and then went different route.

$160 shipped

New - pack of 2 replacement feet. I replaced these for a 282c, but can be used for other models. See measurements below.

$30 shipped

these do not expire. I have 2 for sale.
1 TBAC CERT HAS SOLD 2 REMAINING
$1210 each
will mail the buyer the cert.
payment via usps mo, cert. check, cashier check, zelle, cash app. I CANNOT TAKE PAYPAL OR VENMO

Bought it last year and have used it once. Includes box
$350 shipped PayPal f/f

Picked up an ACC Elite and got MDT’s aluminum bag rider with it (among other widgets). Problem is, the bag rider angles downward from back to front, and I’m looking for one that has a bottom surface parallel to the bore.

I could do a lot of internet searching, but thought the Hide might know an outfit who makes what I want. Thanks for any help in advance.

If you've been wanting to build out your own custom hunting rifle in 6 Creedmoor but still need a high quality barreled action and you don't want to wait three months. We have what you need. It has an 18" Proof Carbon Sendero barrel with a 1:7.5 twist. It will ship within 7 business days. If you need a trigger or muzzle brake to help finish the build we have those in stock and can send with the barreled action. Click this link to check out the Kelbly's 6 Creedmoor Barreled Action. If you have any questions or need help feel free to reach out at 435-462-1607 or email us at [email protected].

Preface:​

I have no involvement with the company, purchased this product for full MSRP on pre-order. This post is meant to discuss the unit's capabilities and impressions after using it for couple of days. The idea is to expand and update (& correct) this post with feedback from others who have experience with the product.

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Rumors began flying in early '24 about a new WMLRF coming out later that year. This was eventually confirmed when a few posts surfaced on social media and @DocUSMCRetired himself confirmed the unit's existence later in the year here on the Hide. With options limited for years to essentially a Raptar, Radius & STORM or recently MARS, MRF and Vortex 4000. With some major downsides to most of those options, new WMLRF with onboard Applied ballistics just north of a $1000 was a fairly exciting proposition. Despite sour taste from a few pre-orders in this industry in the past, I obviously learned nothing & went ahead and got on the list. Orders were taken in late December '24 with full price paid upfront, ETA from Tango Innovations was 2nd or 3rd week in Jan '25. They only missed the deadline by about a week, with email communication on the original deadline stating as such. Shipping was upgraded to expedited as a result for everyone on pre-order free of charge. Good on them in that respect, no gripes from me.

What arrived:


Well packaged unit with remote button (4 pin connector, fisher maybe?), some zip ties & zero-ing reflective targets (no stickers, c'mon guys, all of us are suckers for stickers!). Manual is on the website and another copy was emailed with the note "no paper manual included. Applied Ballistics is in the process of transitioning to the new AB Quantum app, which will soon simplify the control of all your devices. Since this change is happening soon, we’ve provided a virtual manual instead." I have no idea what this transition will look like for Fire4000 users.

Key Features directly from Tango with a few of my own notes:​

We develop our own app (AB Synapse - BOSS) and ally with Applied Ballistic. There are different models of software applications. Search for AB Synapse – Boss or BOSS on both Apple iOS and Android, Google Play.
1. FIRE4000 UltraLite (For Hunting)
2. FIRE4000 Sportsman (For Sport Training)
3. FIRE4000 Elite (For Long Professional Shooting)- I assume this is what we got with lower models coming out in the future?

OLED Display
The built-in laser rangefinder can quickly measure the target distance and angle, displaying the results on the OLED screen. Additionally, there is a setting for adjusting the screen brightness. The display is amazingly crisp, 3 brightness settings, it shows all relevant information as far as I can tell so far. if I had to complain about something. I could use a NV friendly brightness setting on the low end.

Vertical and Horizontal Screen
There are settings for both Vertical and Horizontal screens, available on both the left and right sides. To adjust the screen direction, long press for 2 seconds to cycle through the 1-2-3 options. This function works as advertised and is obviously useful for horizontal vs vertical mounting.

Invisible Laser and Visible Laser
The invisible laser, Class 1 with a wavelength of 905nm, is used for measuring distances up to 4000 yards.
The visible laser, Class 2 with a wavelength of 635nm, is utilized for zeroing in on targets and measuring distances up to 100 yards.

Battery Performance
Battery Model : CR123A 3V
Installation : Battery "+" facing inward, "-" facing outward.

Weight is listed at 420g which is 14.8 oz, I weighed this thing at 15.7 oz including the activation cable, so they weren't lying and this thing is a Chooonk. Not that it's current main competitor Vortex is any lighter at 16oz. This area should be the main area of improvement if there's ever a V2 of this. MARS is 1/2 the weight (and 7x the price, I know) but the technology is there nowadays, and I don't see any backcountry hunters packing an extra pound when handheld RFs are in the 6-8 oz range nowadays.
Dimensions listed are 111x75x47mm, which is 4.37x2.95x1.85in. The width is really 2.5in if you don't measure the battery cap and the height is closer to 1.5in from top of the rail.

Performance:

Popped a new CR123 in and powered on unit. Manual is straighforward, setting this thing up is very intuitive including the BOSS app and took 2-3 minutes. I have a S&B US waiting on a mount, so I took the chance to mount it on some spare NF rings and threw the Fire4000 on top. You could follow the zeroing instructions at 100yds, but at dusk, the red laser is visible out to a good distance so I just parallel zero'd at roughly 1000yds in the near darkness.

While we are talking about zeroing, the red laser activation button can be hard to activate/deactivate (this is by design to prevent NDs). The elevation/windage adjustments have no clicks to them, it just feels like you are turning against about 2-3 in/lbs of resistance. This doesn't bother me as I never understood everyone's obsession with tactile clicks and somehoe judging optic's tracking ability by how the clicks "feel" or "sound". Unless we are talking about TT clicks, but that is more of an art to me than a necessity. I'm probably starting an argument here so I digress... Looking through the optic, you can clearly see the laser moving the direction you're moving the flathead screwdriver, no biggie, gets the job done.

My vis seems fairly well slaved to the RF laser, I didn't get ranges off target (or inversely no range while on target) until I got out to ~2000 yards and even then it was only .1mil in the horizontal direction.

There are 2 AB modes on the unit, External and Internal.
External is straight forward, pair with a kestrel via BT and go. Connection is fast and automatic once you initially pair them. I have had those two units synced for about 30 min total so far on about 5 occasions and haven't dropped connection once. Kestrel gets the range from the Tango, does it's thing and spits the solution back out to the Tango under 0.5 sec. One great thing I was excited about is you can build your target card on the Kestrel by ranging with the FIRE4000, great.

The internal mode is a little different story and I hope I get some feedback from others so I can update. You use the BOSS app to set up the rifle profile (is the Quantum making it easy to transfer profiles from device to device?! because I'm about tired of making the same AB profiles across the ecosystem evertyime I pick up a new device...). This is where I am seeing some discrepancies, when the BOSS is connected to the FIRE4000, I seem to get correct elevation adjustments that match my Kestrel (within reason, some of the atmospheric and DOF conditions were off in below pic resulting in a small discrepancy).

However, once I go to airplane mode on my phone and let the device do 100% of the internal calculations, I get results that are... well let's say not exactly jiving with the Kestrel... EDIT 2/3/25: no longer an issue here after talking to customer service some more. Let me explain how this works and what most likely happened here. The Fire4000 gets the gun profile, atmospheric info, DOF and angle of fire from the phone app when they’re connected. Once you disconnect from the phone app and rely solely on the Fire4000 unit, it still uses the gun profile, DOF and atmospheric info that it had last received from the app. However since there’s a built in inclometer, it updates the angle of fire autonomously. That being said, what most likely had happened is I fudged the angle on the phone, then when I disconnected from the phone app and took a new range, the Fire4000 adjusted to the correct angle and spit out a different solution as a result. I confirmed tonight that I can’t replicate the issue, so as of right now, the standalone mode is gtg as far as I’m concerned. One other thing I noticed is that when you’re in AB external and connected to the Kestrel, simply switching to AB internal doesn’t automatically pick up the BOSS app on the phone. It’s like the kestrel is keeping the device locked in. I have to disconnect the kestrel first before the AB internal picks up the phone app.




Ranged .2mil targets no problem out do 1000yds, all I have available past that are buildings, a water tower and stadium lights, it hit all those no problem to 2000yds first time everytime for me.

Random facts and thoughts:

Ranges compared to my Sig8k came back 3-5yds long on the FIRE4000 consistently at all distances, whether it was 100yds or 2000yds. Not big enough discrepancy to be able to verify with a GPS, so I'm calling it good enough for gov't work.

Vibration when acquiring a target is a feature I thought would get turned off immediately, will have to see how it affects battery life but as of right now it's actually a useful tool I will keep enabled.

Tango Innovations is a company I know nothing about, according to their contact, they appear California based, customer service communication has been ok so far.

Unit is made in China (ewww) according to the box.



Mount is a spring loaded crossbolt design with 2 screws, no torque spec included so I guestimated and sent it.. Update from Tango: 40-45 in/lbs recommended for the mount.


Powered by a single cr123 battery positioned in the correct perpendicular orientation.

Confirmed some load data and fired roughly 50 rnds of 6.5cr out of LMT MWS today, holding zero so far



Activation switch could have been lot smaller, if not even just just more low profile, but not a deal breaker compared to a Raptar switch etc..

Distance and internal solution return is lightning fast, like .2-.3 sec is my guess.

Buttonology on top of the unit is well thought out, with most buttons providing a function with a short click and then some sort of a mode change with a 2 sec hold. GTG there, simple and effective.

Will have to update later on how this gets along with my PVS26, didn't get a chance to go out for night shenanigans this weekend.


I'm sure I missed a ton, fire away Hiders, let me know what else there is to touch on...

Cool test done by [B]MinistryOfTruth[/B] on 2/3/25

28F Freezer Test (MinistryofTruth)​

Unit did not form any internal condensation when frozen to 28F for 2 hours. Was taken outside and used up against Impact4000.​

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Tango displayed typical low battery warning with CR123, but not with 3.7V rechargeable.​

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Scanning and other functionality worked excellently. Impact 4000 display was practically inop under same conditions. No display oddities were observed on the Tango.​

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The Tango is a vfd so a picture of it is worthless.​

@carbonbased was kind enough to put together a list of pros/cons between this and the Vortex unit:

Impact 4000 (Vortex)​

Cons

• Battery life in cold weather with off-the-shelf batteries is very poor (special battery helps, but not sure how much)
• Indication for battery failure is immediatelybefore unit shuts down (not helpful)
• LCD screen is sluggish in the cold
• Big boi, a far bit larger
• A little heavier
• Has own ballistic software, can’t true the ballistic curve at multiple distances simultaneously
• Laser for ranging is different than visible laser used for zeroing. So, must skyline confirm zero with poles, edge of buildings, etc.
• $300-$600 more expensive. $1700 currently at Eurooptic with VX15 coupon; $2000 retail.
• Bluetooth remote
• Too bright at night
• ~1/2sec slower for ranging @ ~600yds
• No haptic feedback

Pros

• Amazing warranty
• Onboard inclinometer

Neutrals/Unknowns/Unclear

• Has onboard environmental sensors* (but these might get messed up by the sun beating down, or shooting from a warm space into the cold, etc)
• Has a compass built-in**
• Made in Taiwan (a pro to me, but maybe not to others)
• Poly exterior
• Workflow, building profiles, profile management, tethering limitations, Kestrel connectivity ease of use, etc

Fire4000 (Tango Innovations)​

Cons

• Can’t read the screen with polarized sunglasses (not sure how big a deal this is)
• Only a 3yr warranty
• Remote cable doesn’t have a right-angle option
• Too bright at night
• Too easy to switch between meters & yds
• “When updating environmental measurements using the phone and not having phone perfectly at 0° (the) incline reading gets wonky.” from @boomslang (link)

Pros

• AB onboard, can true ballistics at multi-distances simultaneously
• A fair bit smaller
• A little lighter
• ~1/2 sec faster ranging @ ~600yds
• Cheaper, $1400
• Wired remote
• Haptic feedback
• OLED screen (apparently not sluggish in the cold, users confirm please)
• Onboard inclinometer

Neutrals/Unknowns/Unclear

• Cold weather performance still up in the air (28°F test isn’t actually cold, in my book. It’s warm.)
• Made in China (a neg to me, but maybe not to others)
• No environmentals onboard*, but as mentioned it does measure shooting angle for correct ballistic solution
• No compass**
• Metal exterior
• Workflow, building profiles, profile management, tethering limitations, Kestrel connectivity ease of use, etc
• Zeroing ease (is viz laser same as ranging laser?)

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Notes:
*why the Fire4000 not having onboard environments is probably no big deal.

**ditto with the Fire4000‘s lack of a compass: see here

We have been getting some awesome rifles built off the Tikka T3X action. This one is chambered in 6.5 PRC with a 3 tone Cerakote job on the stock with Snipers Gray, Black, and Raw Carbon. with a 20" Proof carbon fiber barrel. Click this link to check out the 6.5 PRC Tikka T3X Rifle. If you have any questions Please feel free to reach out at 435-462-1607 or email us at [email protected].

So I decided to play with a Springfield 2020 RF to see if they are really as bad as they say they are......Mine sucked bad. Shot almost 5" at 100 yards.

So I tried to see what I could do to make it better. There was a thread here asking about barrel and I decided not to clutter that thread up and just start a separate one.

I did end up getting mine to shoot fairly well.

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Is the Shooter App that bad?

I will preface that I'm comparing the Shooter App vs AB Quantum Free...for now

600 yards 6.5CM
Shooter app said 5.3MIL up, which is what I used.
It started pouring rain, we were prone out in the elements, and range closed due to Tornado warning, so couldn't experiment/troubleshoot
I came home confused and downloaded AB Quantum.
AB said 3.8MIL
That's a HUGE difference.
Same rifle and bullet data input

Shooter app I had plugged in G7 from factory box @ .311 BC
AB is saying 3.06 BC, so I Used that for AB app

I'm obviously inclined to believe AB since Shooter led me WAY too high for MIL adjustment, but AB seemed just a tad low in my head.
1.5MIL @ 600 yards would be below +/-32" and therefore possibly off the 36" target paper?

Backstory,
Zero'd rifle after scope & chassis install, and chrono'd ammo @ 100 yards, w/ Garmin.
Attempted 1000 yard and was WAY high, not even on paper.
Went back to 100 yard range and reworked zero, minimal change. It was windier that day but shouldn't affect vertical.
2 weeks later shot @ 600-yards, and again, shot very high, but at least on MR1-C paper, about 15-18" high, didn't get a true measurement. Can post a pic later Tight enough group that I don't doubt torque values, but will re-verify.
We were at 40 feet elevation @ Marine Corp Base Quantico.
74*F/70%RH by Accuweather app. Winds negligible. Yes...I'd like a Kestrel for true readings. lol.

Ammo:
Federal Gold Medal Match Berger Hybrid Target 140gr
Chrono'd Velocity 1760fps
SD by Garmin as 7, not too shabby for Factory ammo

Rifle Data:
New build Impact 737R, Stuteville 26" CRB 6.5CM 7.7-twist Comp profile. About 140 rounds total through the barrel so far.
MDT ACC Premier Chassis
Arken 7-35x scope
Sight leveled in MDT rings w/ Arrow products scope leveling tool, and verified w/ SG Pulse electronic level.
Height of scope over bore inputted as 1.5" but definitely need to go re-verify as I know this can cause a multitude of issues

Thought I would share that US Army Sniper Ed Eaton is selling a nice rifle. He was featured on Sniper Deadliest Missions, fwd to 1hr 12min

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Nominated for the Medal of Honor for action in Nam.

Used PVA Osprey prefit in 6mm BR for ARC Nucleus/Archimedes - 26", 1:7.5 twist, M24 contour, 5/8x24 threads. Per original owner, 385 rounds fired & shot under 1/2" MOA with 30.2gr (Varget or XBR). Only reason I decided not to keep is that I picked up a 6 br barrel for my AI and I don't need two.


Had this listed before and didn't have any serious offers, so I decided to see how it shoots. Shot sighters at 50 and 100, and then two 5 shot groups with Lapua 105 gn factory ammo. I screwed up the last shot on the first group becausethat's what I do, but the second turned out like I'd expect one of Josh's barrels to shoot. 401 rounds on the barrel as of today.

$Sold shipped to your door in the lower 48. Not looking for any trades at this time. Thanks.

Used for less than 100 rounds. No bolt release, right side safety.

Sold shipped

To get impacts beyond 600 yards, I’m having to change my bc from .292 to .280 AND change MV from a twice verified (two garmins running side by side) 2770 to 2750. On the Hornady app, this equates to 2750 and a AFF of 1.10. If I don’t change the muzzle velocity, there is no allowable AFF large enough to give me true results. To clarify, if I put in the largest allowable AFF and start lowering MV, 2750 is the first speed at which the calculated dope matches reality after conventional rounding. The curve predicted by AB matches at .280/2750. If I put the verified MV (2770) in to AB, i have to go to a BC of .272 to get hits.

This is verified at both 1800 ft and 70* and 7000 ft and 40* on small enough targets that I’m confident it’s not just bad shooting/spotting.

Berger 109 LRHT, 7.5 twist. 1000 rounds on the barrel/brake combo. 30 rounds over the garmin shows an SD of 8 and an ES of 34 and the barrel shot two back to back cloverleaf groups (sub 1/2”).

Anyone have any ideas why I’m seeing such incredible inefficiency downrange. Something about the bullets? A barrel problem causing a change to external ballistics? I’ve never seen such a huge truing solution required.

Matchmaster seating die is destroying every 3rd or 4th 143eldx.

New lapua 65prc brass. Run over expander mandrel (262) for uniformity.

Load isn't compressed and I'm getting what appears to be actual extrusion of the bullet into the stem. I know the vlds shape are prone to scoring with standard stems, but can seem to find a vld Stem for this die.

Has anyone seen anything like this before??? How did you solve it?

1 pro curved
1 flat

Both triggers are used but are in excellent shape.

$210 ea. shipped conus

I bought my first accu-tac ever ..it's a br4. Based on various reviews of being rock solid and stable , I decided to pick it up.

Seems nice but my concern is there is alittle front to back wiggle on the legs. Is this normal? My Harris is has no play in it when it's at the 90deg position so I want to make sure I didn't get a defective product ..
Thanks

I believe this account has been hacked due to the PM’s I received with typical scammer lingo. Yes I did report it to the mods just want others to be aware.