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The Cartridge Conundrum

New Year approaching, new shooters asking question about "getting into PRS"

So I see these questions all the time, and in the beginning they are always gear questions, what to buy. This time however it was a cartridge questions, which caliber, cartridge etc to start out with ?

The answers are crazy and I feel most people have fallen into a confirmation bias trap. If everything has been a variation of monkey see, monkey do, and the masses just repeating the same thing over and over again, how do you actually answer this questions. Let me explain deeper... with some examples of what I mean.

Everyone reads, 6mm, so you want some form of 6mm. And the Mainstream will say, 6 Dasher, 6BR* and so on, but in this case the question was about 6mm ARC and the answer was a resounding NO... the mainstream shoots, 6Dasher, 6GT, 6BR, 6XC, nobody has been successful with the ARC so don't do it.... Really, a 6mm pushing the same bullet is a no go ...

Take a 243 loaded with a 109, a 6XC loaded with a 109, a 6CM loaded with a 109, who win.... everything else is the same.

The small frame AR cartridges are designed to work in a short barreled rifle. So they are working to push efficiency, it would make sense that a bolt gun being the most efficient platform that it would work better... the Valkyrie while dead, is a good example, at 2750fps it's shit, at 3025fps it's awesome, now compare that number to a 22GT and a 22CM, if I can easily move the Valkyrie from 2750 to 2950 without extra effort, I can save a bunch of time and energy and resources.

Consider the brass chasers, why do they chase the brass, hard to find, hard to work it, don't want to lose one. Think about that, they are coveting brass... when brass the expendable part of the equation has that much value you missed the objective.

The Light is Right argument was correct, we have show with the 100gr 6.5CM it's results can pass the 156gr, which is a better bullet on paper, this equation can be made cheaper and easier especially with hand loading

What happens if you take the 100gr 6.5CM and instead of it going 3200fps like it currently does, you downloaded it to 2950, 3000fps, vs a 1, O Something in a 6mm. Samething, if the 105 is going 2850, is that really worse than the 109 going 2850 ? If so, what happens if the 105 goes to 2875 ?

None of the current cartridges started out smooth, they all went through trial and errors, mainly speed, but we have gone weight too, but speed is our biggest manipulator, so that is easy.

I think moving forward a new shooter with a 6ARC can blend in nicely

SOLD Leupold MK6 1-6 *Price Drop*

Leupold Mark 6 1-6x20 with 7.62 CMR-W reticle. Includes a Leupold throw lever. $1400 $1150 shipped.

Payment: PayPal F&F, Venmo F&F, Zelle, CashApp, or Apple Pay.

Trades (+/- Cash):
-Unity Hot Button (SF Plug)
-Area 419 Cantilever Mount (30mm/1.54”)
-Malkoff E1HTV2 Head
-Surefire Scout QD Mount (Larue LT272/LT752)
-PRI Gasbuster Ambi FDE
-Manners Stock (LRH, PH, NS, CS2)
-PRI Round Handguard (Rifle, FDE)
-16” Centurion Recce/MK12 Barrel

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So whats the new variant on the SUURG setup? Can I buy a 13" tavor barrel?

In the interest of single stamp as short as possible 556 guns I previously considered getting a SUURG as far as I can tell you can't buy them anymore not to mention its heavy. Currently contemplating what the shortest single stamp for a sar95 would be. So can I buy a 13" piston setup for one or will they only sell me an SBR?

Then whats the current go to for suppressor/brake combo where the brake is over 3" long? A lot I've used over the years don't seem to be produced anymore. I'd probably get 2 brakes and put one on an ar as well and have 1 suppressor between the two with both being pinned and welded to over 16"

Scope Mount for SG Pulse Level?

I just finished up with my build and recieved the SG Pulse Level yesterday. My scope is set all the way back on the action rail, so there is no room for the SG Pulse. Tried mounting to the exccess rail in front of the scope mount, but it's adds extra effort to see it as I used the BoBro Scar scope mount and the QD mechanisme sticks out just enought to block most of the light. I'm searching for a ring style adaptor with a small pic rail that I can mount to the 34mm tube on my NF ATACR. Anyone know of such an accessory??? Can't find it anywhere.

SOLD Sold

400 rounds on it, recorded all shots in my binder.

Proof comp contour threaded 5/8-24

With a mdt comp break in 6mm
Sold

900 + pieces of lapua brass
Some fired twice some fired 5 times
$340 shipped
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Some diprimed,, some not
All together, not sorting them out
Buyer has first shot at brass

6 unopened boxes of 75 gn eld
Plus one opened box

2 unopened box's 88 eld
Buyer has first shot at theses as well

Accessories HS Precision 25 cal blank.

HS Precision .257 blank. This is a 1.2 no taper and 7.5 twist. Asking $350 shipped. Feel free to give me a call or text at 208-530-0951. I can do a face time call and show the blank if that makes someone feel better about the deal.

Thanks!

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SOLD WTS: Manners LRH, Hawkins Hunter, Aero Solus, Bartline Barrel TriggerTech

Looking to move out of my 6.5 SAUM build. would be willing to part out as listed below but would give a better deal if bought as a whole. Rifle shoots exceptionally well, .5 MOA at 100 shooting Berger 140 at 3100 FPS


Rifle as it sits - $2200

Aero Solus Barreled action - $1300
- Solus SA with Mag bolt face
- Bartline barrel chambered in 6.5 SAUM by straightjacket, 22 inch 7.5 twist with ~975 rounds on it
- Triggertech Special trigger
- Area 419 hellfire universal adaptor


Manners Stock and Bottom Metal - $1300
- Manners LRH WITHOUT Mini Chassis
- Hawkins Hunter Bottom metal
- Hawkins Hunter Magnum Mag
- Salmon River Hunter Rail

Please let me know if you have any questions

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Optics Sig Kilo 3000 BDX Binos

Sig Kilo 3000 BDX Range finding Binos. Opened box to make sure they worked, and back they went.
Kept as a backup, but never had to use them. Comes with everything pictured. not sure if it came with operators manual but it can be found on line.
They are basically new other than I opened them and not you. PPFF or Zelle. $735. shipped to you.
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thanx for browsing
...Jeff
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SOLD Foundation Samson CDG

Selling my foundation Samson inlet for Coupe de Grace action. Includes all brass weights and MDT bottom metal. In excellent condition with no visible signs of wear. Price is $1850 shipped, buyer covers PayPal fees.

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SOLD Desert Precision Built RimX with Bolt Mod. BixnAndy

Desert Precision Gunworks RimX build with their new bolt mod to run RimX/Vudoo/L3I mags.

24” Krieger 1.20” straight barrel. BixnAndy Tacsport ProX single stage trigger with flat shoe and low sear.

Will come with original bolt and modded bolt. ($500 upgrade). Round count is unknown but I just got it back from DPG last week and everything was gone through.

Hammered at the Lapua test center but I have not shot it since the bolt/barrel mod which I wouldn’t imagine would change anything.

$2350 shipped to your FFL. Payment via PayPal F&F, Zelle, or Venmo.

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MPA BA Rings

Does anyone use the MPA BA scope rings? Not a lot of feedback (especially negative).

AR10 Precision

Hopefully this is the correct place to post this question. I've seen precision shooting with an AR10 discuss3d here and on other forums and I've seen mention of having to shoot gas guns differently than a bolt gun. Can anyone point me to some videos or literature that discuss this?

I've been getting somewhat lackluster groupings with my 20" AR10 with Proof Research barrel, and I can't figure out if it's me, the barrel, haven't found the right ammo yet, or too high expectations.

I've tried Hornady ELD-M, Federal Gold Mdeal Match(with SMK and Berger projos), Nosler match. All are bringing out 1.5-2 MOA.

There's a very big possibility that it's a me problem, but if im not shooting the gun correctly I'd rather read or see the right way to shoot a gas gun than waste a shit load of expensive ammo trying to figure it out.