Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[FuhQ]

Those are rookie numbers. Mine was declined for a dealer error at the the 88 day mark, then took another 18 days to get back to day 1. On the bright side, my traditional form 4 still has a chance to beat the eform.

Tell me about it… 7 months in (weeks from an approval) My Obsidian 45 got disapproved due to an ATF dealer audit, 3 months later they resubmitted it. Took another 4 months for the “expedited” processing. If I hadn’t called and talked with the nice examiner lady who was helping me with it, who instantly realized there was an issue, and that it had not been labeled as expedited for special processing. She was able to request it, and then approve it, and send out the stamp, and I had my can within 2 weeks of that phone call…Over the Christmas holidays. She went above and beyond.

Shows there’s still some good folks out there, even if the agency they work for is corrupt as hell.

Overall time of 14 months while the average time was 6-8. I’ll never use that dealer again due to the incompetence displayed during the audit, and refusing to inform their customers what was going on.

 

[fightercat]

paper went out on 11/05/21
e file went out on 02/05/22

still nothing the paper may beat the efile back

 

[FuhQ]

paper went out on 11/05/21
e file went out on 02/05/22

still nothing the paper may beat the efile back

I wouldn't hold my breath on that... My last 3 paper forms were 14, 11, and 13 months. I just picked up the last one Monday.

 

[JeffNC]

form 4 e-file RC2 individual:
Certified 3/27
Stamp received 6/27

Someone must be trying to keep the 90 day thing in tact…

 

[chuffmark1]

450 days today…
Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[GUNNER75]

450 days today…
Absolutely ridiculous.

Reach out to your congressman, Research UPIN, etc. Thank me later.

 

[TheBoctor]

Seeing all these 450day ones has me worried.
Paper Form 4 submitted ~6/15/21 via MHSA, still waiting...
4x Form 4's on 12/23/21 submitted personally via certified mail, received all 4 back on 4/11/22. A little over 100 days on them. I guess I got lucky squeaking them in when everyone was starting eFile, or maybe the certified mail puts them on someone important's desk. Who knows.

I figured 14 months out on a can to make it for hunting season would make it comfortably... guess not.

 

[DoNotReply]

Seeing all these 450day ones has me worried.
Paper Form 4 submitted ~6/15/21 via MHSA, still waiting...

Yep got 2 in jail there as well sitting at 14 and 12 months, all I do is laugh and laugh and cry.

 

[stefan73]

Spoke to my dealer here in Louisiana. For the Efile they are seeing 4 months for approvals.
I'm at 131 days and still counting.

 

[One1Bravo]

Spoke to my dealer here in Louisiana. For the Efile they are seeing 4 months for approvals.
I'm at 131 days and still counting.

I'm in LA also. My dealer told me in April they hadn't had an e-file go longer than 72 days. I'm at 91. Seems like it varies significantly.

 

[KZP]

Just hit 90 days.

That means I get my suppressor email this evening, right?

Guys? Right? I get my...suppressor....today?

 

[KZP]

It's going to be 6 months by the time they get around to you

I'm already 8 months on paper form. Only 8 more to go!

 

[matleez]

Just hit 90 days.
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That means I get my suppressor email this evening, right?

Guys? Right? I get my...suppressor....today?

I'm at 85....but bought the can October of 20 I'm fucking lazy.

 

[Charger442]

got a can approved in 76 days. i submitted two the same day, same dealer, identical everything. its 3 weeks later and the second can approval is nowhere in sight.

 

[matleez]

Have you called? Seems odd for eforms in that case.

 

[Louperez4]

104 days efile and nothing

 

[Bluedog82]

I’m at 106 now for efile.

 

[FuhQ]

May 17 cert date. So, today marks Day 50 for my first eForm 4, the OCL Hydrogen-S.

 

[QS-1911]

I'm already 8 months on paper form. Only 8 more to go!

I'm right there with you, working on month 9. Purchased 30 September 21, checked cashed 26 October 21. The numbers I'm seeing I'm not expecting anything before 14 months, smh!

 

[Louperez4]

Day 146 for efile

 

[Charger442]

Have you called? Seems odd for eforms in that case.

I have not called. I figured it's just there still pending.I guess didn't know there was anything to call about.

 

[hlee]

I have not called. I figured it's just there still pending.I guess didn't know there was anything to call about.

If you can get in touch with the actual examiner, and you specked into charisma, you might be able to get some movement. But, if you give up with the first contact at the ATF, all you’ll get is ‘still pending…’

 

[LeftyJason]

Ultra 7 30 cal CB

Bought from Mile High 5/12/21
Tnt Guns received 5/21/21
Form 4 mailed 5/28/21
Tax stamp cashed 6/7/21
Approved 6/27/22
385 days.
Call from dealer 7/5/22
Picked up from dealer 7/5/22

 

[Maurygold]

Ultra 7 30 cal CB

Bought from Mile High 5/12/21
Tnt Guns received 5/21/21
Form 4 mailed 5/28/21
Tax stamp cashed 6/7/21
Approved 6/27/22
385 days.
Call from dealer 7/5/22
Picked up from dealer 7/5/22
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Is your rifle scope bridged????

 

[LeftyJason]

Is your rifle scope bridged????

On the AR? No.

 

[WyCoShooter]

Called ATF again
6/8/22 - Coming up on 1 year and 3 months, still pending with no reviewer assigned to my form 4
Anybody have a spare bottle of vasoline I can borrow since the ATF apparently is not going to let up bending me over?

Finally.....fucking finally

TBAC 338 ULTRA SR
Check cashed 3/12/21
Stamp at dealer 7/1/2022
Can picked up 7/5/2022

Official wait time just under 1 year 4 months....what a joke.

 

[WyCoShooter]

450 days today…
Absolutely ridiculous.

Took about 485 days for me, hopefully your time is soon man

 

[RMB]

I think that we should be able to wait 485 days to mail in our property, state and federal taxes. LOL

 

[WyCoShooter]

I think that we should be able to wait 485 days to mail in our property, state and federal taxes. LOL

I fully support this!! haha

 

[Kickin45]

15 months and counting
This process is a joke. “Latest and greatest” doesn’t exist in suppressors.
2 more comparable suppressors have come out since I paid for mine.
It would be nice to have the most up to date product in my hands and using it before other, better products come to market. Nope! Not when dealing with the ATF!!!

 

[cgobeli]

I am at 371 days for a paper form 4, just dying from the inside out.

 

[DeRico]

Don’t give up hope. Well, give up hope in the ATF, but your stamp will come back!

 

[RKBArmory]

148 days, and I'm finally home with my Dead Air Nomad 30.
Feb. 8th.
E-File
Individual.

I told my wife that I've been shooting in the garage, but she just couldn't hear it.

 

[BTap]

90 days my ass.....

Seems to be around 110/140 days now which is still 1/3 of the previous wait. I’m happy they have done something to approve the time. Since the government would rather delay it if anything to stop people from purchasing
Hopefully this doesn’t get to the point of Being 7-8 months like paper we’re a couple years back.
Lazy asss people at the atf & FBI

 

[kthomas]

Currently at 139 days and counting on my e-file...

 

[BTap]

When I picked up my can this morning I spoke to the owner of the shop. Supposedly this is Silencer Shop's largest dealer in the country. He told me eForm form 4's have been taking an average of 4 months. I was just shy of 5 months, so in the ballpark I suppose.

But it makes me wonder how some people have gotten approved in 30-90 days. Luck of the draw? State dependent? A lot of praying? WTF is the process? No one seems to know for sure and ATF ain't telling apparently.

I think it was random and more so early in on efile most were inside of 90ndays

 

[JMil72]

Currently at 139 days and counting on my e-file...

As of today I’m at 155 days and counting on an efiled form 4.

 

[YotaEer]

72 days for my most recent efile.

First 2 paper filed were 8-9 months

All in the same trust.

 

[Charger442]

I think it was random and more so early in on efile most were inside of 90ndays

I figured out the real problem today. Except for a very few clerical staff answering phones, etc, all the NFA examiners are working "remotely". No phone number to reach them, just an email address.

Basically they are all working from home perpetually. So Fed employees working at Federal employee productivity from their couch.

 

[FreedomandProsperity]

I think that we should be able to wait 485 days to mail in our property, state and federal taxes. LOL

Only seems fair that we should be able to pay taxes whenever we happen to get around to it without any penalties.

 

[fightercat]

150 days efile and counting

 

[FuhQ]

I figured out the real problem today. Except for a very few clerical staff answering phones, etc, all the NFA examiners are working "remotely". No phone number to reach them, just an email address.

Basically they are all working from home perpetually. So Fed employees working at Federal employee productivity from their couch.

You didn't know that? Yeah, most of them are still working from home "because covid"...

 

[WyCoShooter]

15 months and counting
This process is a joke. “Latest and greatest” doesn’t exist in suppressors.
2 more comparable suppressors have come out since I paid for mine.
It would be nice to have the most up to date product in my hands and using it before other, better products come to market. Nope! Not when dealing with the ATF!!!

I’m bummed myself, the Gen 2 TBAC 338 SR came out like 6 months after I ordered my Gen 1 back in March. Funny thing is people who efiled have gotten there Gen 2s faster then I got my Gen 1 can. Oh well. Never going paper route again!

 

[sandhiller]

Shout out to the manufacturers of suppressors.
Where is your outrage?
Our, your federal government is not trying to help your business, it is harming it.
I, as a past customer am probably not going to be a potential customer for future business from you unless this shit gets turned around.
Contact your representatives.
Why, as customers should we have to put up with this bullshit alone just to buy your product.
Let's start seeing some love.
As a business, you carry a bigger stick than we customers do.
If I am wrong about your involvement, my sincerest apologies, just haven't seen any engagement from your side.

 

[LeftyJason]

Shout out to the manufacturers of suppressors.
Where is your outrage?
Our, your federal government is not trying to help your business, it is harming it.
I, as a past customer am probably not going to be a potential customer for future business from you unless this shit gets turned around.
Contact your representatives.
Why, as customers should we have to put up with this bullshit alone just to buy your product.
Let's start seeing some love.
As a business, you carry a bigger stick than we customers do.
If I am wrong about your involvement, my sincerest apologies, just haven't seen any engagement from your side.

Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations. It doesn't say we the corporations. It says we the people.

Besides have you not seen voting shenanigans going on? Are the representatives even 'voted' in or are they pretty much appointed?

Here's your involvement.

Staff - American Suppressor Association

ASAStaff Knox Williams President & Executive Director Owen Miller Vice President Michael Williams General Counsel Jessica Cummings VP of Marketing Board of Directors Bobby Cox Sig Sauer — Vice President, Government Affairs Marty Daniel Daniel Defense — President and CEO Michael Derdziak Rugged...

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[Charger442]

Shout out to the manufacturers of suppressors.
Where is your outrage?
Our, your federal government is not trying to help your business, it is harming it.
I, as a past customer am probably not going to be a potential customer for future business from you unless this shit gets turned around.
Contact your representatives.
Why, as customers should we have to put up with this bullshit alone just to buy your product.
Let's start seeing some love.
As a business, you carry a bigger stick than we customers do.
If I am wrong about your involvement, my sincerest apologies, just haven't seen any engagement from your side.

I don't think the manufacturers want cans removed from the NFA. They have a captive audience. If every Joe could build 8 solvent traps with no wait or an SOT, it would severely hurt their businesses.

I'm not saying they are bad people at all. Its purely business I think.

 

[Charger442]

Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations. It doesn't say we the corporations. It says we the people.

Besides have you not seen voting shenanigans going on? Are the representatives even 'voted' in or are they pretty much appointed?

Here's your involvement.

Staff - American Suppressor Association

ASAStaff Knox Williams President & Executive Director Owen Miller Vice President Michael Williams General Counsel Jessica Cummings VP of Marketing Board of Directors Bobby Cox Sig Sauer — Vice President, Government Affairs Marty Daniel Daniel Defense — President and CEO Michael Derdziak Rugged...

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SUPPORT THE COMPANIES THAT SUPPORT YOUR RIGHTS BECOME A SPONSOR Corporate sponsorship is the backbone of the American Suppressor Association. Without it, we would not exist. Voting Members Tier 1 Sponsors Tier 2 Sponsors Tier 3 Sponsors Non-Voting Members Tier 4 Sponsors Tier 5 Sponsors Round-Up...

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LoL. That's exactly who the government works for. Corporations and their big budget lobby groups

 

[mark5pt56]

I will be at 5 months come the 10th, at least 3 dozen other folks in the same boat I'm aware of.

 

[matleez]

LoL. That's exactly who the government works for. Corporations and their big budget lobby groups

That's a big difference than silencer manufacturing companies. JP Morgan chase carries by itself probably the weight of the entire silencer industry. Plus silencer shop just helped with the eform 4 and qr code for the paper forms. They have done alot of work.

 

[Schw15]

Haven't looked over this in a while. I will be 1 year in first part of August for the check cashed. Last I checked it was 12 months but looks like I have a other 4 months to add on that for paper file dang shouldn't of looked at this haha