You didn't know that? Yeah, most of them are still working from home "because covid"...
Suppressors Form 4 wait time
I’m bummed myself, the Gen 2 TBAC 338 SR came out like 6 months after I ordered my Gen 1 back in March. Funny thing is people who efiled have gotten there Gen 2s faster then I got my Gen 1 can. Oh well. Never going paper route again!
Shout out to the manufacturers of suppressors.
Where is your outrage?
Our, your federal government is not trying to help your business, it is harming it.
I, as a past customer am probably not going to be a potential customer for future business from you unless this shit gets turned around.
Contact your representatives.
Why, as customers should we have to put up with this bullshit alone just to buy your product.
Let's start seeing some love.
As a business, you carry a bigger stick than we customers do.
If I am wrong about your involvement, my sincerest apologies, just haven't seen any engagement from your side.
Where is your outrage?
Our, your federal government is not trying to help your business, it is harming it.
I, as a past customer am probably not going to be a potential customer for future business from you unless this shit gets turned around.
Contact your representatives.
Why, as customers should we have to put up with this bullshit alone just to buy your product.
Let's start seeing some love.
As a business, you carry a bigger stick than we customers do.
If I am wrong about your involvement, my sincerest apologies, just haven't seen any engagement from your side.
Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations. It doesn't say we the corporations. It says we the people.
Besides have you not seen voting shenanigans going on? Are the representatives even 'voted' in or are they pretty much appointed?
Here's your involvement.
Staff - American Suppressor Association
ASAStaff Knox Williams President & Executive Director Owen Miller Vice President Michael Williams General Counsel Jessica Cummings VP of Marketing Board of Directors Bobby Cox Sig Sauer — Vice President, Government Affairs Marty Daniel Daniel Defense — President and CEO Michael Derdziak Rugged...
americansuppressorassociation.com 
ASA Corporate Sponsors - American Suppressor Association
SUPPORT THE COMPANIES THAT SUPPORT YOUR RIGHTS BECOME A SPONSOR Corporate sponsorship is the backbone of the American Suppressor Association. Without it, we would not exist. Voting Members Tier 1 Sponsors Tier 2 Sponsors Tier 3 Sponsors Non-Voting Members Tier 4 Sponsors Tier 5 Sponsors Round-Up...
americansuppressorassociation.com 
I don't think the manufacturers want cans removed from the NFA. They have a captive audience. If every Joe could build 8 solvent traps with no wait or an SOT, it would severely hurt their businesses.
I'm not saying they are bad people at all. Its purely business I think.
Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations. It doesn't say we the corporations. It says we the people.
Besides have you not seen voting shenanigans going on? Are the representatives even 'voted' in or are they pretty much appointed?
Here's your involvement.
Staff - American Suppressor Association
ASAStaff Knox Williams President & Executive Director Owen Miller Vice President Michael Williams General Counsel Jessica Cummings VP of Marketing Board of Directors Bobby Cox Sig Sauer — Vice President, Government Affairs Marty Daniel Daniel Defense — President and CEO Michael Derdziak Rugged...
ASA Corporate Sponsors - American Suppressor Association
SUPPORT THE COMPANIES THAT SUPPORT YOUR RIGHTS BECOME A SPONSOR Corporate sponsorship is the backbone of the American Suppressor Association. Without it, we would not exist. Voting Members Tier 1 Sponsors Tier 2 Sponsors Tier 3 Sponsors Non-Voting Members Tier 4 Sponsors Tier 5 Sponsors Round-Up...
LoL. That's exactly who the government works for. Corporations and their big budget lobby groups
That's a big difference than silencer manufacturing companies. JP Morgan chase carries by itself probably the weight of the entire silencer industry. Plus silencer shop just helped with the eform 4 and qr code for the paper forms. They have done alot of work.
Haven't looked over this in a while. I will be 1 year in first part of August for the check cashed. Last I checked it was 12 months but looks like I have a other 4 months to add on that for paper file dang shouldn't of looked at this haha
Right, they did. Because it helped their business. Which is mostly selling the powered by SS 3rd party processing etc.
Never forget they're the ones that destroyed eforms the first time, 8 years ago
Wouldn't know. 8 years ago I wasn't buying suppressors.
That theory has some merit. However, I think that for the higher end suppressors that operate on the gas guns will still be made by companies that can do the extensive machine work with exotic materials.
I have some form 1 cans that I really like on the bolt action rifles but for my gas guns, I'm a big fan of the OSS suppressors.
If the NFA went away, I could see myself buying more OSS products either direct or from the LGS as well as the traditional baffled cans from a friend's machine shop.
The government does not care about businesses unless they are big businesses far larger than any suppressor or gun company which they would prefer went under
Ok, I give, just frustrated and looking for solutions to an IMHO unfair situation
I'm convinced I would still be waiting had I not contacted my Congressman. I'm the least patient person on Sniper's Hide. It's the reason I didn't buy a can before eForms. I refuse to wait 8-12+ months for permission to get my own property.
So when 120 days passed and I still had not been approved, I said fuck it, and called my Congressman. Especially when I was seeing dozens and dozens of people posting that they had been approved in 30-90 days. If I were you guys that are still waiting on an eForm that is over 4 months, I would be calling my Rep today.
So when 120 days passed and I still had not been approved, I said fuck it, and called my Congressman. Especially when I was seeing dozens and dozens of people posting that they had been approved in 30-90 days. If I were you guys that are still waiting on an eForm that is over 4 months, I would be calling my Rep today.
Certified and started the waiting period today.
Talking to the rep at PrimaryArms, she said she had not seen any or many coming at 90 days, more often averaging about 120 days. So there is that data point for you.
Talking to the rep at PrimaryArms, she said she had not seen any or many coming at 90 days, more often averaging about 120 days. So there is that data point for you.
Yep, I am at 134 days. I might send Kennedy a message next week.
Almost 5 months now since I received the efile Submission Notification with no other word. Though I can't complain when people have been in the paper route for over a year.
I just saw on silencershop that q45-151 is current avg for eforms trust and individual
I'm at 90 today. It seems eforms have no fucking consistency whatsoever. It's not like the old style eform 1s that were 14 days. 30 during the holidays.
Oh I agree. I wish it was the same speed as a 4473. Would make life easier all around.
119 days on one efile….
Almost 9 months on one paper form
Hate this waiting shit
Almost 9 months on one paper form
Hate this waiting shit
KGM R30K E-File status changed to Submitted/In process on 2/1/22. Approved today on 7/8/22. Filed as a two person trust.
There might be a little light at the end of the tunnel. I hope this raises some spirits.
I've been watching several videos on this newly announced info today... This case is a VERY strong case against the NFA, thanks to Clarence Thomas' final opinion on the Bruen vs. NYSRPA case, stating that there must be a history of such laws and regulations throughout out history and tradition in our country. Also, the lawsuit brings up legal comments made during the passage of the NFA, by the judge who passed it, stating that his entire reason for passing it was to deter people from owning such items with a high taxed value of the items, because he couldn't outright ban them, being that might draw some scrutiny and Constitutional problems. 
We MIGHT actually see the unconstitutional NFA and Hughest Amendment get struck down very soon. This would also make the ATF pretty much irrelevant. Please Lord, let it happen!
We MIGHT actually see the unconstitutional NFA and Hughest Amendment get struck down very soon. This would also make the ATF pretty much irrelevant. Please Lord, let it happen!
I've been watching several videos on this newly announced info today... This case is a VERY strong case against the NFA, thanks to Clarence Thomas' final opinion on the Bruen vs. NYSRPA case, stating that there must be a history of such laws and regulations throughout out history and tradition in our country. Also, the lawsuit brings up legal comments made during the passage of the NFA, by the judge who passed it, stating that his entire reason for passing it was to deter people from owning such items with a high taxed value of the items, because he couldn't outright ban them, being that might draw some scrutiny and Constitutional problems.
We MIGHT actually see the unconstitutional NFA and Hughest Amendment get struck down very soon. This would also make the ATF pretty much irrelevant. Please Lord, let it happen!
Double edged sword with the hughes amendment going away, would it invalidate all of FOPA? Or can it be severable and invalid?
The 2nd Amendment is the original FOPA... The rest are just affirming things that should already be common sense, in a world of idiots.
Form 3 was just approved on my Magnus SR for transfer from ThunderBeast to Mile High. Should in theory be there before Friday where I start my hopefully not 150 day wait 
I've been watching several videos on this newly announced info today... This case is a VERY strong case against the NFA, thanks to Clarence Thomas' final opinion on the Bruen vs. NYSRPA case, stating that there must be a history of such laws and regulations throughout out history and tradition in our country. Also, the lawsuit brings up legal comments made during the passage of the NFA, by the judge who passed it, stating that his entire reason for passing it was to deter people from owning such items with a high taxed value of the items, because he couldn't outright ban them, being that might draw some scrutiny and Constitutional problems.
We MIGHT actually see the unconstitutional NFA and Hughest Amendment get struck down very soon. This would also make the ATF pretty much irrelevant. Please Lord, let it happen!
Even if the NFA and various other laws aren't totally invalidated under the Bruen precedent, I'd think that a case based upon West Virginia v. EPA has the potential to cut through much of the random administrative rule-making that causes gun owners so much hassle.
Yes, that case, and ruling on said case, rules against the use of Chevron Deference, which means agencies can’t arbitrarily create rules and laws without first having them voted and approved through congress. So, that will bitch-slap the ATF and Biden and all these states creating bullshit laws to push their anti-gun agenda.
I've been watching several videos on this newly announced info today... This case is a VERY strong case against the NFA, thanks to Clarence Thomas' final opinion on the Bruen vs. NYSRPA case, stating that there must be a history of such laws and regulations throughout out history and tradition in our country. Also, the lawsuit brings up legal comments made during the passage of the NFA, by the judge who passed it, stating that his entire reason for passing it was to deter people from owning such items with a high taxed value of the items, because he couldn't outright ban them, being that might draw some scrutiny and Constitutional problems.
We MIGHT actually see the unconstitutional NFA and Hughest Amendment get struck down very soon. This would also make the ATF pretty much irrelevant. Please Lord, let it happen!
If you haven't seen the vid from the lawyers for the mat Hoover case you should.
Saw this post on arfcom, originally posted in the NFA subreddit supposedly, so take it with a large 40lb bag of water softener salt:
This may explain some of the delays that some of us are experiencing.
This may explain some of the delays that some of us are experiencing.
It doesn't explain why random April and March submittals are getting done
Unless some of them were randomly pulled/assigned whatever but the majority went this way. No idea if it’s true or not just thought I’d pass it along.
Ouch. That's the longest I've heard of
eForm4. Single file. First NFA transaction.
Filed I think 1/10/22. Somewhere around there.
Approval email from ATF was sent to dealer on 6/16 but it hit their email spam filter and was discovered yesterday......
157 days with the ATF.
Filed I think 1/10/22. Somewhere around there.
Approval email from ATF was sent to dealer on 6/16 but it hit their email spam filter and was discovered yesterday......
157 days with the ATF.
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