Well I came here to find out if there was a sunshade yet and question is already been asked... Hopefully ordering a scope in April.
Rifle Scopes Zero Compromise Optic update
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@CSTactical if a sunshade is released before my MPCT3 is ready...just throw it on the list.
@big4x42u why wait? Jump into the deep end...the water is warm.
Now...back to my snack of off brand cheesy poofs and no name cola!
@big4x42u why wait? Jump into the deep end...the water is warm.
Now...back to my snack of off brand cheesy poofs and no name cola!
@b2lee I have to wait because my youngest daughter is getting married in 2 weeks. Gotta see what the final total will be for that.
I do get to live vicariously through a friend this weekend shooting with his ZCO.
I do get to live vicariously through a friend this weekend shooting with his ZCO.
This is possible ??
Say one day I want to change a MPCT3 to a MPCT6 several years down the line.......ZCO does this ?
$500 for a reticle change ?.......Perhaps less for SH members ?
I don't know how much the cost is, but yes, it is an available option as far as I know. Give @CSTactical a call. I'm sure he can fill you in on the details.This is possible ??
Say one day I want to change a MPCT3 to a MPCT6 several years down the line.......ZCO does this ?
$500 for a reticle change ?.......Perhaps less for SH members ?
Man get your priorities straight...tell her daddy needs a new scope.
Thank you for confirming the option is available.
I dont have a ZCO scope yet but I'm saving for one and it makes my choice of ZCO an even better one since knowing I can change reticles later if I want to
I don't know if other scope companies offer this too but it's a very smart move on ZCO's part
Agreed. I just got an MPCT2, and while it is a great reticle it’s nice to know that if some new greatness comes out a switch would be possibleThank you for confirming the option is available.
I dont have a ZCO scope yet but I'm saving for one and it makes my choice of ZCO an even better one since knowing I can change reticles later if I want to
I don't know if other scope companies offer this too but it's a very smart move on ZCO's part
Bloody useless for us metric people...
Here in Europe we get target sizes in centimeters, so 1" = 2.54cm, fun to that math at a stage with unknown ranges, guess the distance is also numbered in 100's yard?. Then it gets even funnier, 1 yard = 0.914 meters....
Hope they release a MPCT3 for the rest of the world too...
I’m in the market for a new scope and this makes it very hard not to purchase a ZC.
When shopping for a new optic and your budget is in the zco/theta/schmidt price range, it’s really hard to pass up the zco if you like the reticle. $3600 very competitive.
We change between meters and yards all the time over here. Also, do they make ipsc targets differently??
IPSC: 18” or 45cm
66% ipsc: 12” or 30cm
8” is 20cm
6” is 15cm
Reticle ranging is not a precise tool, so those numbers will get you well beyond an acceptable solution.
And if you’re in a match where you’ll be using the reticle a lot, or on a single stage, just set your calculator to “yards” for dope.
No one cares what the linear unit of measure is for distance. All that matters is your dope is dialed in for a target. I change from yards to meters all the time.
It’s only useless if you want it to be useless.
You shouldn’t be doing any math in the field or on the clock anyway. If you’re not using a cheat sheet next to your dope chart for ranging, you’re wrong and need to change your tactics.
This reticle works fine for CM targets. Just use the above values I listed. As long as you’re within a few CM, you’ll be close enough to make an impact as you’ll already have a margin of error due to color if the target, sunlight, etc etc already hampering your ability to accurately mil a target.
This is how easy it is. These are all within 3 meters to keep it easy. Make a card like this and laminate it. Problem solved and you can range all day long with this reticle and run UKD matches.
You should already have several analog dope cards laminated if you’re needing to make dope calculations on the spot. So you won’t be adding to anything you shouldn’t already have. Measure it, find it on card, dial it in gun, kill it. Same shit, different day.
You should already have several analog dope cards laminated if you’re needing to make dope calculations on the spot. So you won’t be adding to anything you shouldn’t already have. Measure it, find it on card, dial it in gun, kill it. Same shit, different day.
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Every event I have been on here in Europe is metric only, nobody uses yards. Probably because the metric system is the superior system of measurement, haha. But as far as I understood the rangefinder gives you the distance in meter to an IPSC target in inches. Or is it actually yards?
But as far as I understood the rangefinder gives you the distance in meter to an IPSC target in inches. Or is it actually yards?Every event I have been on here in Europe is metric only, nobody uses yards. Probably because the metric system is the superior system of measurement, haha.
Who cares? Either use a cheat card or change your calculator to yards for that target to get your dope. Whether is meters or yards. It doesn’t matter either way.
This ain’t rocket surgery.
True that!
The ranging funnel give distances in yards. As DThomas pointed out already, it's still fairly simple to adapt those to meters.Every event I have been on here in Europe is metric only, nobody uses yards. Probably because the metric system is the superior system of measurement, haha.
Shoot me your number and I’ll be happy to answer any question you may have on ZCO
Well we don't use the imperial system for anything today.
But i guess, wouldn't be to hard remembering the numbers with some training. As long as the matches uses the ipsc target sizes.
And as long as it gets you close enough...
The funnel is still perfectly functional on any target shape, so long as the width is 6, 9, 12, or 18" (or equivalent in metric). Doesn't "have" to be IPSC shape. We just made it to accommodate those specific widths based on those popular IPSC targets commonly used in reticle ranging scenarios.
Ya, you’ll be well within an acceptable range.
I definitely wouldn’t let it hold me back if it was reversed and it was in CM/m.
I definitely wouldn’t let it hold me back if it was reversed and it was in CM/m.
Y’all are a bad influence on me. Ordered my 5-27 today!
Every event I have been on here in Europe is metric only, nobody uses yards. Probably because the metric system is the superior system of measurement, haha.
There are two kinds of countries. Those that use the metric system, and those that have been to the moon.
Asked the dealer to see how long the delivery time is on the MPCT3 reticle here in Sweden.
Might grab one of those, really like a the Christmas three in it even if i'm not 100% sure on the ranging "wedge".
And it has 0.1mil areas i can measure targets with so...
Might grab one of those, really like a the Christmas three in it even if i'm not 100% sure on the ranging "wedge".
And it has 0.1mil areas i can measure targets with so...
Another happy customer...
We are taking pre-orders for all models of Zero Compromise Optics right now inclunding the MPCT3 which is about 4-6 weeks from being available, call us at 916-670-1103 or follow the link here: https://www.cstactical.com/Zero-Compromise-Optic
We are taking pre-orders for all models of Zero Compromise Optics right now inclunding the MPCT3 which is about 4-6 weeks from being available, call us at 916-670-1103 or follow the link here: https://www.cstactical.com/Zero-Compromise-Optic
@CSTactical do you really think you'll have the MPCT3's in your hands in 4-6 weeks? If so...I better fatten that piggie up some more...and soon.
@CSTactical do you really think you'll have the MPCT3's in your hands in 4-6 weeks? If so...I better fatten that piggie up some more...and soon.
@CSTactical you wanna set me up with a straight trade? Lightly used 527 MPCT1 for an MPCT3?
@CSTactical you wanna set me up with a straight trade? Lightly used 527 MPCT1 for an MPCT3?
A straight trade used for new? I wish... You can probably sell it without losing much and than just pre-order it
Thought it wouldn't hurt to askA straight trade used for new? I wish... You can probably sell it without losing much and than just pre-order it
Got my initial setup completed. I need to get out and shoot some paper. What color reticle is everyone running?
I’ve only need illumination once or wife. Red worked better for me.
I honestly forgot you could change the color until just now.
I honestly forgot you could change the color until just now.
Fixed what I think you meant.....damn she must have pissed you off did you get away with it?.........LOL
Yeah it makes more sense the more i think on it.
most long range matches over here uses those target sizes, and can still measure with the finer gradients for the targets that don't match.
And i really like the rest of it as well, so ordered a zco527 today with that reticle. Hopefully i'll receive it before a match i have in April.
Has ZCO come out with covers for objective/eye piece yet....I need to buy some
Tenabrae and Aadland
Both are high quality, most ZCO orders from us buy the Tenebraex which we carry.
I much prefer bikinis so when i undress her..theres nothing on the way....
I mean while shooting
I mean while shooting
Kind of odd that it doesn't come with covers, considering the price. I mean, even the Revic scopes come with covers (which are Tenebrex made, with the Revic logo).
Yes and no. Part of me agrees and the other part understands why not.
They did what they could to keep the price from going into the Tangent level. You’re getting one of the two (three if you count hendsoldt) consensus best optics on the market for at least $500 less than the best price you can find on a tangent.
Years ago, seven of us went to a local casino to play in a big poker tournament. Hours and hours later, here I am at the final table. One of my friends spoke up and laughed. We just spent hours of grinding to get to the final table...and I look around and it looks like our Thursday night game. Of the final nine, seven of us were friends and practically drove together to the tournament. Afterwards, we all cashed out. I came in 2nd and we were all Top 7. We celebrated by going to the steak house
The Waiter asked me what I wanted. I replied with, "What comes with the steak? Baked Potato, Veggies, what?" He said, "Nothing sir. I can add whatever you like." I was like a $100 steak doesn't come with a potato? He said, "Sir, if you can afford a $100 steak, does it really matter that it doesn't come with a potato when you can afford to buy any side you like?" This was in the early 1990's.
So...the ZCO...If you can afford one...and you want one...does it really matter that it doesn't come with a baked potato? You can afford to buy anything to go with it you like...and even a cheesecake for dessert.
The Waiter asked me what I wanted. I replied with, "What comes with the steak? Baked Potato, Veggies, what?" He said, "Nothing sir. I can add whatever you like." I was like a $100 steak doesn't come with a potato? He said, "Sir, if you can afford a $100 steak, does it really matter that it doesn't come with a potato when you can afford to buy any side you like?" This was in the early 1990's.
So...the ZCO...If you can afford one...and you want one...does it really matter that it doesn't come with a baked potato? You can afford to buy anything to go with it you like...and even a cheesecake for dessert.
Goddamn. $100 steak in the 90’s?
Gas was $0.79/gallon and I remember seeing a $100 bill was actually a semi rare occurrence. You could eat and drive all week in $100.
.........fuck I’m getting old.
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