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6mm Crusader

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necked up to 6.5cal
how would compare to 260 or 6.5/284?

I expect it should be better than 260 AI but less than 6.5/284

But that long neck has gotta reduce throat torching giving better barrel life than 260AI or 6.5/284

QL shows 3100fps @62kpsi 140gr jlk, thats 6.5/284 performance

But as pointed out by another member 6/6.5x47 will drive 115 3200fps
 
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Any more info on this cartridge? Any estimates on barrel life?
 
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Over 1200 rounds on my barrel, still shooting groups around 1-1.5" at 300 yards.

Been testing 87 VMAX bullets with H4831. Shoots best around 49.0 gr. at 3300 fps. Been up to 3600 without any pressure signs, but groups weren't as good.
 
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OK
I,m very interested in this as a 6.5
reran numbers thru QL using 244 mashburn with 130VLD
3100fps @ 56K psi = 21.25 MOA drop, drift @10mph 5.5MOA @ 1k,

56K psi will certainly improve barrel life, long neck and low flame pressure

OAL used was 2.900, easy fit for a modded DBM
 
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Anyone got a reamer print # for this??

wanna compare to 6rem AI and 244 mash
 
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The difference between the three, as far as case capacity goes, is insignificant. I use the 6mm AI QL model and it is as accurate as any other load modeled in QL.
 
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Guy I know wipes his .280 cases with WD-40 sprayed rag before firing in his .280AI chambered rifle while fire-forming brass.

Good luck

Jerry
 
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For those of us that despise fire forming

does this mean GAP is having correct brass made?
 
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This is a very interesting thread. EXCEPT for the fact that the rifle pics have dissappeared! Can you repost them plz?
 
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I'll try to take some pics of mine
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I see the reamer listed on the GAP website, but no brass or dies. Heard anything new?
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Dies are in stock, Brass is an ongoing quest of mine. It's not going to happen any time soon. For now Winchester 6 mm Rem brass works great, 257 Roberts and 7mm Mauser will work as well.

I just got hodgdon hybrid 100 and Win Supreme 780 to try.
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thanks guys...

load for coyotes is as follows:

105 amax at 3328 fps here at 4800 asl

44.4 grains on RL17 and 210 primer, WIN. brass

2.945 COAL

61 degrees and 26% humidity

should give me 7.5 moa at 600 and 18.5 at 1000

5 shot groups were 3/8 to 1/2 inch at 100

gonna clean and mess a little with seating depth and tweak load a little. pretty happy. ES was 19 and SD 8.8
 
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That is a nice looking rifle Scott...how to you like that style of stock compared to the one on your carbon 243AI?
 
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Even better.
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The Manners GAT fits me well. I am loving the thumb hole style of stock. IT seems to fit my style of shooting better. It is 90% carbon shell. great fit and finish as all my Manners are.
 
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That's pretty sweet, Scott! I can't wait to shoot it...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jwill350</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What barrel contour is that? </div></div>

Tubb Contour.
 
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Better Pics of the GAP rifle.

6mm CRUSADER on a Templar Action
Bartlein Gain Twist 1-9 ending in 1-8 Twist 27" Badger Brake
Badger M5 DBM
Manners GAT RH version, 90% shell
Old Remington Trigger tuned to 1.5 pounds
20 MOA base
NF 5.5-22x50
Seekins Rings


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GAP_Templar.JPG


GAP_brake.JPG
 
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Hey SM, what's your barrel contour and why the gain twist? What made you go with that?
 
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Wow
I did i see a 6.5GAP reamer on GEO's website

tell me i,m wrong that is so tempting

plzzzzz say its not so
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jedi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow
I did i see a 6.5GAP reamer on GEO's website

tell me i,m wrong that is so tempting

plzzzzz say its not so </div></div>

be sweet !
 
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Yes We have a 6.5 Crusader Reamer as well. Have not Used it yet but Matt Hoch one of the Smiths here wanted to Mess with it. Should be comparable to the 6.5x284
 
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You guys got Dies for 6.5 version?

more importantly can my smith rent/burrow the reamer?

Is reamer setup for 140vld? and OAL?

 
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oh well swede will work save me buying new dies

i do like idea of 6.5gap thou

but i,m cheap and impatient