Form 4 wait time

HenryTheAce

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Nice! Thats a short wait.

My buddy waited 3 hours in line to get his can Monday from his FFL. Only 2 peeps allowed in the store at one time. Very long line. His was approved in 5 months ( submitted in Oct 2019 )
Dang thems is quick turn around times!!! Might have to add a few more to jail just incase I hit the lottery and get them all approved at once
 
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lancetkenyon

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I ordered one on Black Friday, all paperwork complete on 12-16-19.
Ordered a second one Jan 1, all paperwork complete 1-8-20.

Got a call today, and went and picked them both up! I was expecting a 10-12+ month wait. Talk about a happy guy!
 

Reload10

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I ordered one on Black Friday, all paperwork complete on 12-16-19.
Ordered a second one Jan 1, all paperwork complete 1-8-20.

Got a call today, and went and picked them both up! I was expecting a 10-12+ month wait. Talk about a happy guy!
Wow...Individual or Trust? Paper forms or kiosk?
 
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CountryShooter

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Not strictly on topic, but ATF is getting it done. Bought another RF can yesterday. Got an email today. Form 3 approved, can in the mail to my dealer.
 

craigos

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Weirdness prevails ... B&T TP9 can Form 4 trust sent Oct 15th 2019, approved March 1st 2020 - thats ~ 6.5 months ... however my Saker 556, B&T and KAC MP5SDs submitted in May 2019 nada. WTF is going on with ATF?
 

goatboy

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You will like the chode on the TP9. If you haven’t, pull a form 1 for the gun. Once it has a can, wire stock and vertical grip it becomes an entirely different gun. In fact, without the two stamps, it’s pretty much a pig.

I swapped out the trigger blade and charging handle for the ones printed by CustomSmith Mfg. Put a Trij SRO on it and you’ll have a great range toy.

Only issue I have is that it’s gassy in the face.
 

HenryTheAce

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Didn’t get the big batch approval I was hoping for with 9 cans in jail. Just called today and found out 3 cans were approved on March 24th and those 3 cans all had the same tax stamp cashed on 6-1-19. It isn’t all 9 at once but I’m at least happy to get some back at around 10 months.... still have not received a call from the dealer yet saying to pick them up.
 

Alihilly1

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HenryTheAce. Got 2 cans on 1RP Trust from 5/20/19. Still not got anything come in. Called last thursday and they said they’re ‘running behind’. Lol

I have the shittest luck lol
 

HenryTheAce

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HenryTheAce. Got 2 cans on 1RP Trust from 5/20/19. Still not got anything come in. Called last thursday and they said they’re ‘running behind’. Lol

I have the shittest luck lol
Man I just don’t understand the ways of the ATF. Total randomness. Hopefully soon for ya!
 

Alihilly1

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Man I just don’t understand the ways of the ATF. Total randomness. Hopefully soon for ya!

I can’t believe they just wouldn’t put all yours together for you. What a WASTE of resources.

I was debating calling today but think its just too soon. Will wait until Thursday (318 damn days) then call again. See what they’re saying.
 

HenryTheAce

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I can’t believe they just wouldn’t put all yours together for you. What a WASTE of resources.

I was debating calling today but think its just too soon. Will wait until Thursday (318 damn days) then call again. See what they’re saying.
Yeah I don’t get it, doesn’t make sense. Best of luck to ya! Should be soon I imagine!
 

CountryShooter

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As I've always maintained, the least efficient way to deliver goods and services is through the government.
 

HenryTheAce

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As I've always maintained, the least efficient way to deliver goods and services is through the government.
Being a government employee I mostly agree with, but I don’t know man, I’m an Air Traffic Controller and we provide a damn good service to busiest safest airspace in the world ?
 

Labanaktis

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I am happy to see the wait times down... it seems like when the wait times go down more machine guns move.. this is a weird time for MG's everyone is used to them going up in price... some still will but some have taken a drop lately.

Matt
 

bunsen27

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I called ATF today and found out that my Nomad from 17May2019 on a single person Trust was approved on 18Mar2020 (8 months). I spoke with my dealer today to let them knw it was approved, no stamp as of yet, but probably end of this week or early next week (~ 2weeks between approval to stamp arrival).

Thankfully today the state and county gov in NC backed off the "all gun shops are considered non-essential businesses" and must close BS so I won't have to wait until the end of April to mid May to go pick it up! :)
 

Lunchbox27

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That sucks. He could clean his office up. There's a lot of papers just sitting around. Just saying. BTW is he still there?
We will never know the full story or the truth behind why he was put on desk duty, but lets list what we do know.

1. He is making $150k a year. Many watching this make half that and work for it.

2. He is old and probably close to retirement. He will get 70-75%-ish of his current salary for the rest of his life.

3. He decided to video tape his daily work life, while crying the entire time and gave it to CNN.

What I would say to him, given what we know? Shut the fuck up and watch youtube.
 

Alihilly1

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I called ATF today and found out that my Nomad from 17May2019 on a single person Trust was approved on 18Mar2020 (8 months). I spoke with my dealer today to let them knw it was approved, no stamp as of yet, but probably end of this week or early next week (~ 2weeks between approval to stamp arrival).

Thankfully today the state and county gov in NC backed off the "all gun shops are considered non-essential businesses" and must close BS so I won't have to wait until the end of April to mid May to go pick it up! :)

Got a single person trust with 2 cans on it from May 20th 2019. Called today and still not been assigned. I am getting so sick of calling and nothing coming of it. Called since 295 days once a week (316 days at present).
Relllllly hoping this week I get approved.
 

D1gger

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I'm at 341 days from the date my check was cashed, still nothing.
The last time I called, all I got was "pending". I asked for more info, the guy had nothing for me, he just wanted me off of the phone it seemed
 
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Slu54

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I recently had 3 batch clear from the same examiner, 1 RP trust Form 4s.

Shortest wait was 36 days from check cashed to approved. Other two were at 107 and 148 days.

Definitely got lucky this time, last year I remember getting a form back that took over 400 days.
 
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crowe938

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Form 4 Trust (2 RPs)
Purchased: 04/23/2019
Check cashed: 05/17/2019
Approved: 03/21/2020 (309 days)
Stamp @ Dealer: 04/13/2020

Interesting note - purchased another can (also trust w/ 2 RPs) and the check was cashed on 11/13/2019. As of 04/03/2020 the 2nd can was still pending, not approved at the same time as the one from May. In June 2019 we moved (same state, same county, just different town) so the addresses on the Form 4s are technically different. Not sure if that is what prevented the two from being approved at the same time, as others have been reporting.
 
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Alihilly1

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Called today for my weekly update (2 cans, 5/20/19 1RP trust) and was informed they are ‘assigned’. What’s the average wait people are experiencing on this wait? I know postal times vary once approved, just wondering.

Is it best to call the atf and ask to speak to the examiner? See what their thoughts are?
 

LSUbeatUby40

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Called today for my weekly update (2 cans, 5/20/19 1RP trust) and was informed they are ‘assigned’. What’s the average wait people are experiencing on this wait? I know postal times vary once approved, just wondering.

Is it best to call the atf and ask to speak to the examiner? See what their thoughts are?
If they are assigned you will be any day now in my experience.
 
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Dmr400

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Mar 4, 2019
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Silencerco Harvester 30
Check cashed 6/20/19
Called 3/15/19ish, still pending
Stamp at dealer 4/6/20
291 days.
 

seawolfxix

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Feb 23, 2020
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Form 4 Trust via Silencer Shop

Ordered 4/5/2019
Check Cashed 5/7/2019
Approved 3/23/2020 (321 days)

Stamp arrived at my dealer, but they are social distancing for another 1 - 2 weeks
 

TacticalDillhole

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Well my thunderbeast was approved on 3/23. Haven’t heard anything from my dealer. Still have two others in the pipeline. I wasn’t one of the lucky ones that got multiple approvals. Story of my life.
 
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lone_soldier

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Form 4 individual through silencershop

Surefire SPS 300. Check cashed 10/31/2019. Got an email from dealer for pickup 3/31/20.
Roughly 145 days. Depending on how long it took to dealer


i have 5 going. With check cashed dates from Sep 19-Jan 20. This was middle one.
 
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HenryTheAce

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Still waiting on dealer to call as well for my 3/24 approval, they know it’s coming and said they’ll call as soon as they get it
 

Bradv86

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Rugged Micro30 on a trust

Form 3: Delivered to Dealer on 9/11/2019
Form 4: Tax Stamp Cashed on 10/3/2019
Stamp arrived at dealer 3/20/2020
Picked up 3/21/2020

Fairly quick for this one.
 
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chrome

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Form 4 Suppressor - Trust (legacy trust from 2009 when the shit was still fresh)
Purchased
- 2/28/19
Transferred from out of state SOT to my SOT - 3/7/19
Form 4 Filed (via Silencer Shop) - 3/15/19
Check Cashed - 4/9/2019
ATF Stamp Approved - 2/10/2020
SOT Called Saying Tax Stamp Received and ready for pick up- 2/15/20

(buffer of 2 months of a rather big shit show of trying to transfer an NFA item as an "out of state resident" and waiting for new drivers license to age for 30 days)

363 days from check cash to CAN IN HAND (would have been approx 303 days w/out shit show)

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D1gger

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FINALLY!
Purchased 5/31/19
Check Cashed 4/28/19
4 Person trust
here's the fun part-it was approved 3/8/20( which was a Sunday-weird) and the stamp has been at the dealer for weeks. I called today to check on the status, they told me it was approved
Called the dealer, they said "the guy that usually handles that (the owner) has been out for about 3 weeks. You can come pick it up" W.T.F.
Went on my lunch hour to pick it up. 373 days from purchase to possession, but it was actually approved in 343 days.
I need to call on the other one that I purchased 7/3/19, cashed 7/11/19
 

Alihilly1

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FINALLY!
Purchased 5/31/19
Check Cashed 4/28/19
4 Person trust
here's the fun part-it was approved 3/8/20( which was a Sunday-weird) and the stamp has been at the dealer for weeks. I called today to check on the status, they told me it was approved
Called the dealer, they said "the guy that usually handles that (the owner) has been out for about 3 weeks. You can come pick it up" W.T.F.
Went on my lunch hour to pick it up. 373 days from purchase to possession, but it was actually approved in 343 days.
I need to call on the other one that I purchased 7/3/19, cashed 7/11/19
Some of these guys work 7 days a week. They really are chruning them out ASAP. Glad you got your can(s).
 
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awells15

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I purchased both a Silencerco Omega and A thunder beast ultra. The Omega has had it check cashed a month ago and I just got notification that the Ultra is heading to my SOT. I am applying as an individual, and chance that these 2 cans will be batched together being they are applied as individuals?