man I have a damn Govt Security clearance, CWP, never been arrested, already have one suppressor and Iām around 150 days. So donāt feel too bad lol.My keyboard doesn't have enough Fs and Us to type out what I am thinking...
man I have a damn Govt Security clearance, CWP, never been arrested, already have one suppressor and Iām around 150 days. So donāt feel too bad lol.My keyboard doesn't have enough Fs and Us to type out what I am thinking...
One person trustCongrats! Trust or individual?
None of that matters. When I saw my FFL get delayed.....himself..... I knew without a doubt that it's just a matter of there being no real system. It's completely luck of the draw and when your stuff gets picked up, and by whom. Applying ANY kind of rational to them and how they operate is a fools errand.man I have a damn Govt Security clearance, CWP, never been arrested, already have one suppressor and Iām around 150 days. So donāt feel too bad lol.
Iāll try that thanksCall em again, if they say it's still pending, call your state rep and see if they can get the ball rolling
How long can it take? How long is a piece of string? Itās an undefined question.Bought 3 cans March 6 2021. Called ATF was told it was pending FBI background check Iāve paid for the suppressors already except sales tax I guess. Am I just stuck in limbo. The ATF said everything filled out right. I donāt have common name. Whatās the longest this can take?
Whatās the longest wait you have heard of?How long can it take? How long is a piece of string? Itās an undefined question.
Whatās the longest wait you have heard of?
Norm 89 is at March of last year. That's 517 days.Read the last couple pages, mid February is where they seem to be. Iām March 4th, youāve likely got a few weeks at the rate things have been slowing down.
One guy was a little over 2 years if I recall.Whatās the longest wait you have heard of?
ThanksOne guy was a little over 2 years if I recall.
Thank youNorm 89 is at March of last year. That's 517 days.
Well, hopefully, your dealer transfers the cans to a new dealer on a form 3 if s/he is going out of business. But, I have read at least one case of a can stuck in ATF purgatory when a dealer quit the biz, and the buyer was left holding an empty bag. The dealer just ghosted. I don't remember the outcome of that, other than it was a cluster fuck.View attachment 7926807
Yeah well I wish the dealer didnāt tell me they were averaging 3-6 months when I they sold me the cans. I mean does the dealer have to stay in business as long as a string?
Well, hopefully, your dealer transfers the cans to a new dealer on a form 3 if s/he is going out of business. But, I have read at least one case of a can stuck in ATF purgatory when a dealer quit the biz, and the buyer was left holding an empty bag. The dealer just ghosted. I don't remember the outcome of that, other than it was a cluster fuck.
But, like above, I have also read 1 or 2 reports of 2 year waits.
But, I feel for you. I am sitting at day 175 of a 90 day wait for an eform4, and also have one on a paper from from October.
It's possible that these guys will be successful before I see that second can...
I dunno how theyād know thatā¦I am and still waiting at 140ish on my eFile.here is a little info that i was told by ATF last week when i checked the status of my efile. individuals who are law enforcement that are buying for themselves( not an agency purchase) get priority. i asked just because i heard that from my dealer. i still donāt know if itās true or not, but thatās what i was told by the person that answered the phone at ATF. if true, i suppose they consider those folks special. sitting on 160 days myself.
They'd know when the background check comes back. Who knows at what point the check is done and your form sits with a reviewer. Maybe they mark the LEO ones for the reviewer to see in their system?I dunno how theyād know thatā¦I am and still waiting at 140ish on my eFile.
I am LEO and it took over 13 months for last approved can (check cashed June 15, 2021 approved July 12, 2022). I still have 1 paper Form 4 that is over 12 months and 2 E-File Form 4s that are currently at 151 days and 53 days. I don't see where I am getting any special treatment or priority. I am not asking for any either.here is a little info that i was told by ATF last week when i checked the status of my efile. individuals who are law enforcement that are buying for themselves( not an agency purchase) get priority. i asked just because i heard that from my dealer. i still donāt know if itās true or not, but thatās what i was told by the person that answered the phone at ATF. if true, i suppose they consider those folks special. sitting on 160 days myself.
Same here and i'm at 130ishman I have a damn Govt Security clearance, CWP, never been arrested, already have one suppressor and Iām around 150 days. So donāt feel too bad lol.
Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations. It doesn't say we the corporations. It says we the people.
Besides have you not seen voting shenanigans going on? Are the representatives even 'voted' in or are they pretty much appointed?
Here's your involvement.
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ASAStaff Knox Williams President & Executive Director Owen Miller Vice President Michael Williams General Counsel Jessica Cummings VP of Marketing Board of Directors Bobby Cox Sig Sauer ā Vice President, Government Affairs Marty Daniel Daniel Defense ā President and CEO Michael Derdziak Rugged...americansuppressorassociation.com
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"Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations"....Really genius???...You ALREADY have forgotten the infamous Mitt Romney quote when you fools thought HE was a viable choiceto lead this nation???....You TRULY don't remember " no no my friend, corporations are people " and the idiocy storm that followed???Of course, it turned out later he was one of the ONLY "republicans"(lol) that had the balls and backbone to act and actually stand up to that moron that took away bump stocks and was talking about how he thought taking our guns before our day in court was a reasonable option....You right wing clowns have the most selective memories EVER put on this earth....FAR more than even my WIFE!!!!....As a gun owning Democrat, I admit I'm having a hard time getting knee-jerk "leaders to actually LOOK at reality and see we're the ones PAYING taxes, for hunting licenses, land leases, AND LAND PURCHASES for hunting, ect, and I OBVIOUSLY don't agree with bans ect. on guns, but COMPROMISE on both sides WILL GET THING CHANGED....And moving again, I JUST ordered 2 shotguns off of RK Guns and am WAITING FOR THEM to be SHIPPED to my local store, so WHY can't people WAIT a few days for a damned BACKGROUND CHECK!!!...***NOW*** I will say it'd damned sure be nice to have the background check working and done by the time I could pick them up instead of having to go inside and do the paperwork then, so THERE is just one thing that COULD get fixed with the PROPER person making the rules....Don't need to have a "D" or "R" by the name, don't give a damn as long as the changes are made and done soon.....Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations. It doesn't say we the corporations. It says we the people.
Besides have you not seen voting shenanigans going on? Are the representatives even 'voted' in or are they pretty much appointed?
Here's your involvement.
Staff - American Suppressor Association
ASAStaff Knox Williams President & Executive Director Owen Miller Vice President Michael Williams General Counsel Jessica Cummings VP of Marketing Board of Directors Bobby Cox Sig Sauer ā Vice President, Government Affairs Marty Daniel Daniel Defense ā President and CEO Michael Derdziak Rugged...americansuppressorassociation.com
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Glad you told us all what you are. This isn't the arena for that though, and will get you banned, just so you know."Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations"....Really genius???...You ALREADY have forgotten the infamous Mitt Romney quote when you fools thought HE was a viable choiceto lead this nation???....You TRULY don't remember " no no my friend, corporations are people " and the idiocy storm that followed???Of course, it turned out later he was one of the ONLY "republicans"(lol) that had the balls and backbone to act and actually stand up to that moron that took away bump stocks and was talking about how he thought taking our guns before our day in court was a reasonable option....You right wing clowns have the most selective memories EVER put on this earth....FAR more than even my WIFE!!!!....As a gun owning Democrat, I admit I'm having a hard time getting knee-jerk "leaders to actually LOOK at reality and see we're the ones PAYING taxes, for hunting licenses, land leases, AND LAND PURCHASES for hunting, ect, and I OBVIOUSLY don't agree with bans ect. on guns, but COMPROMISE on both sides WILL GET THING CHANGED....And moving again, I JUST ordered 2 shotguns off of RK Guns and am WAITING FOR THEM to be SHIPPED to my local store, so WHY can't people WAIT a few days for a damned BACKGROUND CHECK!!!...***NOW*** I will say it'd damned sure be nice to have the background check working and done by the time I could pick them up instead of having to go inside and do the paperwork then, so THERE is just one thing that COULD get fixed with the PROPER person making the rules....Don't need to have a "D" or "R" by the name, don't give a damn as long as the changes are made and done soon.....
Who invited the faggot?"Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations"....Really genius???...You ALREADY have forgotten the infamous Mitt Romney quote when you fools thought HE was a viable choiceto lead this nation???....You TRULY don't remember " no no my friend, corporations are people " and the idiocy storm that followed???Of course, it turned out later he was one of the ONLY "republicans"(lol) that had the balls and backbone to act and actually stand up to that moron that took away bump stocks and was talking about how he thought taking our guns before our day in court was a reasonable option....You right wing clowns have the most selective memories EVER put on this earth....FAR more than even my WIFE!!!!....As a gun owning Democrat, I admit I'm having a hard time getting knee-jerk "leaders to actually LOOK at reality and see we're the ones PAYING taxes, for hunting licenses, land leases, AND LAND PURCHASES for hunting, ect, and I OBVIOUSLY don't agree with bans ect. on guns, but COMPROMISE on both sides WILL GET THING CHANGED....And moving again, I JUST ordered 2 shotguns off of RK Guns and am WAITING FOR THEM to be SHIPPED to my local store, so WHY can't people WAIT a few days for a damned BACKGROUND CHECK!!!...***NOW*** I will say it'd damned sure be nice to have the background check working and done by the time I could pick them up instead of having to go inside and do the paperwork then, so THERE is just one thing that COULD get fixed with the PROPER person making the rules....Don't need to have a "D" or "R" by the name, don't give a damn as long as the changes are made and done soon.....
Same thing but have an efile around 170 days.man I have a damn Govt Security clearance, CWP, never been arrested, already have one suppressor and Iām around 150 days. So donāt feel too bad lol.
Why would you insult a bundle of sticks?Who invited the faggot?
"Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations"....Really genius???...You ALREADY have forgotten the infamous Mitt Romney quote when you fools thought HE was a viable choiceto lead this nation???....You TRULY don't remember " no no my friend, corporations are people " and the idiocy storm that followed???Of course, it turned out later he was one of the ONLY "republicans"(lol) that had the balls and backbone to act and actually stand up to that moron that took away bump stocks and was talking about how he thought taking our guns before our day in court was a reasonable option....You right wing clowns have the most selective memories EVER put on this earth....FAR more than even my WIFE!!!!....As a gun owning Democrat, I admit I'm having a hard time getting knee-jerk "leaders to actually LOOK at reality and see we're the ones PAYING taxes, for hunting licenses, land leases, AND LAND PURCHASES for hunting, ect, and I OBVIOUSLY don't agree with bans ect. on guns, but COMPROMISE on both sides WILL GET THING CHANGED....And moving again, I JUST ordered 2 shotguns off of RK Guns and am WAITING FOR THEM to be SHIPPED to my local store, so WHY can't people WAIT a few days for a damned BACKGROUND CHECK!!!...***NOW*** I will say it'd damned sure be nice to have the background check working and done by the time I could pick them up instead of having to go inside and do the paperwork then, so THERE is just one thing that COULD get fixed with the PROPER person making the rules....Don't need to have a "D" or "R" by the name, don't give a damn as long as the changes are made and done soon.....
Wow, you kiss your boyfriend with that mouth? Are you also a "proud cat-dad", and have pronouns in your bio's on social media?"Companies contact representatives. The government doesn't work for corporations"....Really genius???...You ALREADY have forgotten the infamous Mitt Romney quote when you fools thought HE was a viable choiceto lead this nation???....You TRULY don't remember " no no my friend, corporations are people " and the idiocy storm that followed???Of course, it turned out later he was one of the ONLY "republicans"(lol) that had the balls and backbone to act and actually stand up to that moron that took away bump stocks and was talking about how he thought taking our guns before our day in court was a reasonable option....You right wing clowns have the most selective memories EVER put on this earth....FAR more than even my WIFE!!!!....As a gun owning Democrat, I admit I'm having a hard time getting knee-jerk "leaders to actually LOOK at reality and see we're the ones PAYING taxes, for hunting licenses, land leases, AND LAND PURCHASES for hunting, ect, and I OBVIOUSLY don't agree with bans ect. on guns, but COMPROMISE on both sides WILL GET THING CHANGED....And moving again, I JUST ordered 2 shotguns off of RK Guns and am WAITING FOR THEM to be SHIPPED to my local store, so WHY can't people WAIT a few days for a damned BACKGROUND CHECK!!!...***NOW*** I will say it'd damned sure be nice to have the background check working and done by the time I could pick them up instead of having to go inside and do the paperwork then, so THERE is just one thing that COULD get fixed with the PROPER person making the rules....Don't need to have a "D" or "R" by the name, don't give a damn as long as the changes are made and done soon.....
Wow, you kiss your boyfriend with that mouth? Are you also a "proud cat-dad", and have pronouns in your bio's on social media?
the atf website clams they are working overtime, to include weekends to process stamps. has anyone been approved on a saturday or sunday ? or after normal working hours?
The NFA Division continues to receive an unprecedented volume of applications. For example, in a prior week, the NFA Division received over 32,000 combined NFA applications.
This, and kill the notifications for this threadā¦Yes, itās bullshit that we have to pay the government $200 for a permission slip. Yes, itās bullshit that it takes forever. Bottom line is, you canāt do anything about it, and calling isnāt going to change anything for 99.9% of cases. The best thing you can do is file your paperwork and forget it even exists, until you are one day reminded it does when you receive your stamp.
Actually, yes, at least on the Form 1 side of the house. I've had not just approvals come through at odd times, but when something got boned in the old eForms system on the ATF's side, I was getting personal correspondence from an examiner at basically all times of the day (if member serves me correctly, one email came through at 3AM on a Sunday morning). So I'm not supportive of this trend of shitting on the examiners - personal experience tells me they are doing everything possible to deal with what is likely an impossible tall stack of paperwork.
I just had a paper application go past 365 days with no movement - the longest I've personally experienced, but completely typical nowadays.
I don't know if it was already posted here, so apologies in advance if this is a repost:
That's a shit-ton of applications - more than 1.5 million on a annualized basis, or perhaps ~5% of total yearly firearm retail sales volume.
I also submitted one 2-24 and haven't seen it yet.Submitted 2-26 Approved 8-4
Submitted 2-24 ????
I agree completely. There's a lot of misdirected frustration and plain ignorance when it comes to NFA stuff. Based on approvals I've had come through, they're definitely working around the clock to get forms done, it's the sheer number of forms that are coming through that keeps pushing things back. It's surprising that the rollout of eForms has gone as smoothly as it has...
I submitted mine March 6, 2021 where should my frustration be directed? Because this is my first time and I am ignorant of the process.I agree completely. There's a lot of misdirected frustration and plain ignorance when it comes to NFA stuff. Based on approvals I've had come through, they're definitely working around the clock to get forms done, it's the sheer number of forms that are coming through that keeps pushing things back. It's surprising that the rollout of eForms has gone as smoothly as it has...
Wow...was I surprised when I got to this part.....NOT.As a gun owning Democrat
Exactly... And now that we all are using eForms and the ATF actually notifies you when you're approved, folks shouldn't even be calling and bugging the fuck out of them asking, "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"Yes, itās bullshit that we have to pay the government $200 for a permission slip. Yes, itās bullshit that it takes forever. Bottom line is, you canāt do anything about it, and calling isnāt going to change anything for 99.9% of cases. The best thing you can do is file your paperwork and forget it even exists, until you are one day reminded it does when you receive your stamp.
Way better than form 4. I filed long before efile was an option. Iām over 400days since I actually paid for the can. About 350 since they cashed my $200 checks. My first can was 18 months from check cashedā¦A few days? 176 and counting on a ā90 day waitā for a welded tube with no capability on its own to propel a projectile. Fuck you. Fuck the gun grabbers on both sides. Double fuck the ATF.