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Good .223 DMR/MPVO Optic These Days?

Hey all,

I know this question has been asked a couple times and I've been reading through some recent threads, but hoping for folks with experience on a few of these optics to chime in. In short I have a proven 20" SAMR-ish .223 gun that I love but just haven't shot much in the past few years.

So I pilfered the old school mildot SWFA 3-9 I had on it and ending up selling that along with a .308 bolt gun to a buddy getting into hunting.

Well I'd like to get an optic back on the rifle and I figured there's probably something out there these days for around $1K that'd have some nice updates compared to the old reliable SWFA. And wouldn't you know it there's just as many trade off's now as there was back then.

I'd be curious if anyone had any $.02 on my considerations here or if I'm missing something I'd appreciate it. Use case is primarily a bit of target shooting, coyote hunting, and maybe a gas gun match from time to time.

Things I like (for this gun):

FFP
2-10x-ish magnification
Length around 13" or less
Weight around 25oz or less
Illumination
Zero Stops / Locking Turrets
Not super busy reticles
Adjustable Parallax (nice to have but not required for this gun)

Things I don't like (for this gun):
Unreliable things
Heavy / Long Scopes
Super busy reticles / should be hunter friendly


I have a range for sure but this is what I'm considering:

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Leupold Mark 4HD M5C3 FFP TMR Illuminated
~$1000

My initial replacement thought. Love the size/weight, features, reticle is acceptable for me.
Concerned about tracking and reliability based on Rokslide tests for the money. Conflicting reports on glass quality for the price.

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Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42mm STR-MIL FFP
~$1500

Love the size/weight, features, glass is probably excellent, bit spendy (diminishing returns?)
Reticle is a bit busy for me and feel it might get lost hunting

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Trijicon Credo 2-10x36 FFP w/ Red MRAD
~$1000

Good size/weight if just a touch long, Japanese glass
Reticle a bit busier than I'd like, unsure if better that the Leupy for the same price?

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Athlon Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42mm AHMR2 FFP IR MIL
~$400

Like the size/weight, features, generally like the reticle, ranging capability is really cool, cheap means more money rolled into scope on a different rifle faster, or less buyer's remorse if someone ever comes out with a banger MPVO.
Don't love a 1 MOA dot, biggest concerns is on quality and reliability, glass is said to be OK, seems like a dice roll.

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Vortex PST Gen 2 2-10x FFP Mil
~$750

Like the size/weight, generally like the reticle, cheaper than other options, Vortex warranty
Discontinued/Somewhat Hard To Find, glass said to be OK

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Bushnell LRTSi 3-12 FFP
~$800?

Like the weight, a touch long, G3 tree is ok, said to have great Japanese glass, should have bought one years ago during the blow out.
Discontinued/ Very Hard To Find, read a few horror stories about Bushnell warranties on these and replacing them with worse options

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Maven RS1.2 - 2.5-15x44 FFP
$~1100

Excellent performance in Rokslide tests, Good glass, good hunting reticle, great magnification range
Definitely a long boy, a touch on the heavy side, temptation to slap on a bolt-gun hunting rifle instead

Firearms SOLD. 408 Cheytac Pierce 10X in Mirage Chassis

$5500 or best offer

408 Cheytac Pierce 10x action in a Mirage Chassis w/about 300 rounds through the barrel. Bartlein 35 inches 1:9 twist barrel, jewel HVR trigger, 40 MOA rail
Longest impact 3883 yards.

200--390 gr cutting edge projectiles
150--415 gr cutting edge projectiles
100--450 gr cutting edge projectiles
100--420 gr cutting edge projectiles
approximately 300 pieces of brass
1 set 408 Cheytac FL Bushing sizer and seater die
1 set 408 Cheytac FL sizer, neck sizer, and seater dies

Bipod not included. Must ship to FFL. Just don't have the time to shoot it with my current schedule.

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FNG from Western PA. Air Force Veteran (1988-1992) then continued to pursue a career as a LEO for the State of Pennsylvania. Before someone asks, yes, Gunny Sarge who served in Air Force. Gunny is from my all time fav movie, Full Metal Jacket. Retired in 2014 and that's when my bank account began to drain fast! How'd thunk this long range shooting would be so expensive and addictive? 😁

JP Rifles AR-15 FMOS Bolt Carrier Not Compatible with Geissle National Match Triggers

What would be the best option for a Mil-Spec AR-15 bolt carrier for use with a JP Rifles enhanced bolt? I have found that the JP Rifles full mass bolt carrier I received with the JP Rifles enhanced bolt is not compatible with the Geissele National Match trigger. The hook under the face of the Geissele National Match hammer is hanging up on the tail of the JP Rifles full mass bolt carrier. A Daniel Defense bolt carrier will work Geissele National Match trigger, but they don’t sell the bolt carrier separately.

SOLD Remington 700 stocks, HS Precision, McMillan

Remington 700 stocks, all are short action and include bottom metal, spring, follower, and action screws.

Top: Painted 700P stock. Missing 1 sling stud. $250 shipped SOLD

Middle: Black 700P stock. $300 shipped SOLD

Bottom: McMillan HTG, Robar style enhanced grip texture, target adjustable butt stock with old McMillan logo. Anschutz rail. Bedded for a 700SA with varmint/sendero profile barrel. $450 shipped SOLD

Payment via PayPal F&F, Venmo, Zelle, USPS MO.

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Firearms Remington 700 LTR 308 20” barreled action

Factory 700 LTR 20” 1:12 .308 b/a —- no trigger, ‘g’ prefix action. Approx 450 rounds on it by previous owner. Extremely clean and nice condition. Does not include, trigger or small parts such as bolt stop, trigger pins, or bolt release assembly.

$940 shipped

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SOLD Really Right Stuff TFCT 34L With Anvil 30 Ballhead and RRS Case

Lightly used - as you can tell from the lack of marks on the ballhead - almost all of its use was just holding a spotting scope on a flat range. One scratch of note on the release lever - I shot a close-up of it so you can see it well (4th to last picture) - makes it look much worse than it is.

Comes with the thick padded case with the "hard" top.

$1350 Shipped CONUS, fully insured. PayPal/Venmo/Zelle and fees (if you choose buyer protection - which is fine with me) are the responsibility of the buyer.
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SOLD 18” PROOF 6.5CM AT-X barrel

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$800 shipped

*Wrench flats have been added since the photo*

Chambered by Southern Indiana Precision

Was going to use for coyote hunting but shoot my 6CM more.

Load data below

18” PROOF 6.5CM
AT-X
Round Count 87

First 10 shots
140ELDM 41.5 H4350
2605/2641/2626 9.6. 75°
Shot 67-77
2584/2632/2616 12.5 68°
.9”

105 BLITZ
3013/3071/3030 21.3 75°


123 ELDM
39.2 VGT
CCI 34
2788/2745/2773 14.4 SD

123 ELDM
39gr VGT
CCI 34
2771/2746/2758 SD 9.2
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SOLD McGowen 18" 308 Remage Barrel

SOLD

McGowen 18" 308 Remage barrel with McGowen barrel nut. $150 TYD.

1:11 twist, recessed crown, muzzle threaded 5/8-24 with blended muzzle protector, muzzle diameter .745" (I think it's a Douglas #5A contour but not positive). Cut for standard recessed bolt nose .700 diameter. Muzzle in great shape, no pitting or dings.

Approximately 150 rounds through the tube. Didn't reload for this barrel so not sure of its full accuracy potential, but performance was decent with factory ammunition averaging around 1 MOA or a little above (well, except for Hornady SST Superperformance but all my bolt guns hate that ammo). Ran a .30 cal suppressor with no issues so the threads are good.

Selling because I moved to Iowa and I can't hunt with 308 here.

Feel free to hit me up with any questions or requests for additional pictures! Thanks!

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