Suppressors Form 4 wait time

Submitted 6/1 approved today 3/1. Hopefully the second one that was submitted at the same time happens in the next couple of days so I can pick them up at the same time.
If you don’t go in to pick up the first the 2nd one will NEVER come in. Go in today to pick up the 1st and the 2nd one will come in tomorrow! (One of Murphy’s rules I think)
 
My 6/2 pending was approved on Monday 🥳. 270 days on the dot.

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.... Abolish the ATF
 
Didn't expect the early June ones quite this soon. I've got a 6/6 I'm waiting on that's only 1k control numbers away from PGreen's. Figured it would be another couple weeks but maybe I'll get a nice surprise.
 
Woohoo!

I got my first (of five) cleared.
Apparently, they still are not performing batch approvals because all five of mine were certified same date thanks to one of several SS errors that didn't get cleared in a timely manner.

Anyways, the good stuff:

Submission Date: 06/08/2022
Approved Date: 03/02/2023
Control Number: 20225535XX
Can: CGS Hydra SS
Wait: 267 Days

...Now I just need a host. I'm Thinking something along the lines of a Ruger Mark IV Target or Tactical... Decisions, decisions...
 
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Woohoo!

I got my first (of five) cleared.
Apparently, they still are not performing batch approvals because all five of mine were certified same date thanks to one of several SS errors that didn't get cleared in a timely manner.

Anyways, the good stuff:

Submission Date: 06/08/2022
Approved Date: 03/02/2023
Control Number: 20225535XX
Can: CGS Hydra SS
Wait: 267 Days

...Now I just need a host. I'm Thinking something along the lines of a Ruger Mark IV Target or Tactical... Decisions, decisions...
Sig 322 isn't bad. 20+1 of 22lr.
 
...Now I just need a host. I'm Thinking something along the lines of a Ruger Mark IV Target or Tactical... Decisions, decisions...

I have a pair of Mark IV Lites w/sparrows. Son-in-law has the same setup. We shoot comps at my range. Great gun to consider.
Nice to see the control numbers rising.
 
I have a pair of Mark IV Lites w/sparrows. Son-in-law has the same setup. We shoot comps at my range. Great gun to consider.
Nice to see the control numbers rising.

Based upon my calcs earlier this week and control numbers approved yesterday, looks like they are getting through about 5400 control numbers a day.

Looking at me personally, that would bring review time to around 260-264 days now
 
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Woohoo!

I got my first (of five) cleared.
Apparently, they still are not performing batch approvals because all five of mine were certified same date thanks to one of several SS errors that didn't get cleared in a timely manner.

Anyways, the good stuff:

Submission Date: 06/08/2022
Approved Date: 03/02/2023
Control Number: 20225535XX
Can: CGS Hydra SS
Wait: 267 Days

...Now I just need a host. I'm Thinking something along the lines of a Ruger Mark IV Target or Tactical... Decisions, decisions...

The little Walther makes a nice host IMHO.


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Hopefully they speed this process up a bit I bought my first suppressor last year and was promised by silencer central 90 day wait times I guess well see probably 2 more months.

eform 4
Submitted 07/25/22
 
seems like there sticking to 275 day approvals and under hopefully they get caught up on paper forms to where they wanna be at and just shoot through a bunch of eforms. Only one can hope I guess.
They’re gonna have to prove it to me that they can do it first. One can hope but high hopes? Nah!
 
Love seeing the control numbers .. it’s like watching water boil
Where do you find the control number, I ordered from silencer central and they never emailed me anything and they don’t show any control number on the account section of the site only email I get is every 2 months them saying the atf is still working towards my application.
 
Here’s something that has never happened a true eform batch approval of 20 cans! This occurred yesterday, March 6th, longest wait in the group is 262 days down to 12 days. It has been verified by the moderator of the subreddit. Very detailed post with no special circumstances. Simply incredible… 😳👍 (See attachment at the bottom of this post).

 

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Oh, and all 20 individual stamp emails were received in just under two hours or on average, one approval every six minutes. Stunning.
This batch approval is what I've been waiting for from the beginning and have complained to my congressman and senator about for a 9 months now.

In an electronic system, there's no way this SHOULDN'T be the case everytime.

Your turn comes in the wait list, your background check comes through and gets applied to all of your pending forms and they get approved.

Hopefully this is the case for everyone going forward
 
Hopefully this is the case for everyone going forward
I hope that you are right, but I think it could be more related to the unusually high number of NFA items in the system for this person. Is it setup to flag a certain number of pending items over 8, 10 or 15 and then they are all brought to the attention of a single examiner for batch approval? Perhaps so.

If you go to that subreddit thread, the person approved mentions it could be about an “audit from the ATF,” that he seems to indicate could occur from this group of approvals and that he is familiar with some of the agents and “knows them by name” as he had encounters with them in the past. So, he’s approved now for 20 NFA items and from what I read in the thread, it seems he has many other NFA items. Maybe ATF pays a visit to persons approved of a high number of NFA items in a short period of time. The guy mentions he is in Houston.

What is for sure is the whole process is opaque.
 
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I hope that you are right, but I think it could be more related to the unusually high number of NFA items in the system for this person. Is it setup to flag a certain number of pending items over 8, 10 or 15 and then they are all brought to the attention of a single examiner for batch approval? Perhaps so.

If you go to that subreddit thread, the person approved mentions it could be about an “audit from the ATF,” that he seems to indicate could occur from this group of approvals and that he is familiar with some of the agents and “knows them by name” as he had encounters with them in the past. So, he’s approved now for 20 NFA items and from what I read in the thread, it seems he has many other NFA items. Maybe ATF pays a visit to persons approved of a high number of NFA items in a short period of time. The guy mentions he is in Houston.

What is for sure is the whole process is opaque.

It definitely seems like it could be a unique situation (hopefully not) as that guy has $4000 in just stamps, probably tens of thousands more in the items themselves.
 
I hope that you are right, but I think it could be more related to the unusually high number of NFA items in the system for this person. Is it setup to flag a certain number of pending items over 8, 10 or 15 and then they are all brought to the attention of a single examiner for batch approval? Perhaps so.

If you go to that subreddit thread, the person approved mentions it could be about an “audit from the ATF,” that he seems to indicate could occur from this group of approvals and that he is familiar with some of the agents and “knows them by name” as he had encounters with them in the past. So, he’s approved now for 20 NFA items and from what I read in the thread, it seems he has many other NFA items. Maybe ATF pays a visit to persons approved of a high number of NFA items in a short period of time. The guy mentions he is in Houston.

What is for sure is the whole process is opaque.

if the guy is on their radar, knows agents by name, why would they approve his stuff to go "audit" him.

Hes a private citizen and not an FFL/SOT or he wouldnt be in the form 4 game.

if the ATF wants a piece of him, they would flag his form 4s for a hold or deny outright, then go knock on his door.

approving them all and then go knock on his door makes no sense at all.
 
if the guy is on their radar, knows agents by name, why would they approve his stuff to go "audit" him.

Hes a private citizen and not an FFL/SOT or he wouldnt be in the form 4 game.

if the ATF wants a piece of him, they would flag his form 4s for a hold or deny outright, then go knock on his door.

approving them all and then go knock on his door makes no sense at all.
Are you aware that if you buy two or more handguns within seven days, that triggers the requirement the FFL licensee must send a copy of the transaction to the ATF and local law enforcement? Perhaps, if someone would buy 10 handguns in seven days they might decide to pay that person a visit as a precaution to get a read on that person.

I don’t think the issue would be that he is on the ATF radar because he has done something wrong, but rather buying 20 NFA items is something unusual and an outlier. If he had done something wrong, he wouldn’t be buying firearms, much less NFA items. ATF may have protocols that when something like this happens they go visit the individual to get a feel for the person.

The only other thing that comes to mind is maybe he does indeed have an FFL/SOT, but these 20 items are obviously for him personally. Maybe the guy is rich and at times he buys a high number of NFA items like this and the ATF decided in the past to pay the guy a visit and audit his FFL/SOT business while there. If an audit happened in the past due to an unusual circumstance such as at present, it would explain why he is inclined to think it might happen again.
 
I know my local FFL/SOT told me when he had his recent audit from the ATF, the guy flew in from TX as they didn’t have anyone locally. Compare that to Houston that likely has an ATF field office in the area, so if they decide to audit/visit someone like this maybe it‘s a 20 minute drive for example, and no big deal for them or the person getting the visit because they are in a large city to begin with.
 
Submitted and In Progress: 03/06/2023
Permit #: 202340665X

This is so frustrating. I did an eForm with a trust, this is my 9th time through the process and I'm thinking 274 days but unsure if braces will introduce a wildcard. I had to renew my LEOSA last week, went to an FBI channeler and had my approved results in the time it took me to drive home. /weakrantoff
 
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