I didn't know there was such an animal as the ASA.The American Suppressor Association worked with the ATF to streamline processing. Amazing that the ATF listened, and more amazing that they followed through.
Still can’t believe it. Are pigs flying yet?
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I might just look them up and see if I can throw a few bones their way.
Reward the good!
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The American Suppressor Association worked with the ATF to streamline processing. Amazing that the ATF listened, and more amazing that they followed through.
Still can’t believe it. Are pigs flying yet?
Are Fast eForms Transfers Here To Stay? - American Suppressor Association
When it comes to suppressors, wait times suck! Since they were first regulated in 1934, delays associated with Form 4 processing have been a reality that the suppressor community has had to live with. For years, the American Suppressor Association has actively advocated for changes to the...
Thanks for the info guys! I'm ashamed to say I wasn't a paying member before, but am now. I'd way rather support people like this who get things done than Fudds like the NRA.
Filed my KGM R65 with a trust on Feb 6 and just got approved today. 86 days from filing to approval.
Well, there’s hope for me and my trust yet!
Existing trust. I was going to call it a "standard" trust but I'm an admitted newbie with NFA items and I'm sure that's not what it's called. It was a trust setup by an attorney specifically for the purpose of owning suppressors and SBRs.
I'm also the only responsible party on the trust.
Ha! Awesome! That describes my situation too. Man o’ man would it be cool to get my can in three months.
Although even three months is pathetically slow.
I was going to just go individual and transfer it into my trust (for another $200) but I got lazy as Silencer Shop defaults to using my existing trust.
It costs another $200 to add to an existing trust?! Ooof
from an individual to a trust, because its a different entity has to transfer on a form 4, so $200
Practically any time it changes ownership you have the $200 fee. Even if that owner is you and your transfer it to your trust.
That's why you put up with the wait of a trust. I don't want to give them more than I have too.Dumb! Haven't they taken enough of my money
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In an email from ASA today.
I really didn't need to see this.
Yup!Dumb! Haven't they taken enough of my money
However, you COULD also think of it like a "savings":
Tax stamps started in 1934, I believe, and remained $200 (excluding AOW's).
So, adjusting for inflation each $200 stamp you own could cost you roughly $4,600. Each. Today.
If ATF kept up with the devaluation of the dollar...
Thanks ATF!
/sarc
Congress, not ATF. The dollar amount was set by law. The ATF has nothing to do with it other than administer the tax with the transfer forms. That is why the ATF was, up until the "War on Terror" reorganizations, within the Treasury Department. They were a revenue agency. Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, all have excise taxes.
That is where they should be still.
Anyone seen updated times on Form 4 from a trust to a class 3 dealer? Wondering if this is also speeding up the first leg of out of state purchases on used supressors.
Individual
Submitted 4/02/24
Approved 4/20/24
Just submitted another one
Individual 5/2/24
Approved ....5/5/24
Submitted 4/02/24
Approved 4/20/24
Just submitted another one
Individual 5/2/24
Approved ....5/5/24
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Still waiting on 2x F1 and 1x F4 on traditional trust from late Nov, late Dec and early March. There were a few posts here recently of trusts from my timeframe coming in, so I'm hoping they'll come in sooner than later.
I just got my stamp yesterday on a suppressor it’s been in jail almost 4 years yes 4 years! Yes I have other suppressors, yes no criminal record at all………. When the ATF first got my info it was a woman examiner and her first week on thejob, this was told to me by another examiner, any ways someone’s name was a close match to mine and bingo she failed me, even after I talked to her and she admitted I had other suppressors she still refused to help me at all, she could see my concealed carry permit and my other suppressors and my sbr’s it still took almost 4 years,
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help...
Approved today 5/5/24.... i had no idea they worked weekends lol
Still waiting here as well, one can, individual. I hope we all get good news very soon.
I’m in the same boat, doesn’t seem like this is speeding up transfers from individual/trust to class 3’s (at least not yet)
Last week I got an approval email on Saturday evening, Pacific time. Must be just an automated system doing it's thing 24/7 maybe?
E4 individual (local gun shop)
Certified 4/24
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Certified 1/25
Approved 4/22
E4 individual (Silencer Shop)
Certified 4/23
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Certified 2/6
Approved ??
I thought maybe the individual apps would push through the trusts in a batch, but no such luck..
Certified 4/24
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Certified 1/25
Approved 4/22
E4 individual (Silencer Shop)
Certified 4/23
Approved 4/25
E4 trust (Silencer Shop)
Certified 2/6
Approved ??
I thought maybe the individual apps would push through the trusts in a batch, but no such luck..
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