Sounds like individuals are moving MUCH faster than trusts. So if someone wanted to shorten their time to can-in-hand they could file as an individual , then transfer into a Trust after it’s approved. Sure it’s an extra $200 but you could gather the prints, pictures and paperwork and do most at the same time. I think the pictures are good for 1 year. I haven’t found a time limit on the finger prints .....
Sounds like individuals are moving MUCH faster than trusts. So if someone wanted to shorten their time to can-in-hand they could file as an individual , then transfer into a Trust after it’s approved. Sure it’s an extra $200 but you could gather the prints, pictures and paperwork and do most at the same time. I think the pictures are good for 1 year. I haven’t found a time limit on the finger prints .....
NFA Tracker is showing individual approvals from March and a single individual approval from April already.
mailed the form4 for individual on 12-28-16 (sold a can to a buddy of mine)
approved 9-25-17
received 9-27-17
approved 9-25-17
received 9-27-17
Man they are all over the place. Some people from January and February getting approved while others from September, October, and November are still waiting. I'm itching for the call.
Individuals are flying through, those are the Jan and Feb. The trusts are taking longer and they are the Octobers. http://www.nfatracker.com/nfa-transfer-time-tracking/
I am really regretting doing a trust now. My check was cashed in February and from looking at other submissions it could easily be 2018 before I get mine. Hopefully it will speed up for the trust folks.
I find the submitted date on the previous two posts interesting. Both approved same day basically but submitted 3 months apart.
Have any of you submitted with the new barcode system? I did it 9/28/17 and they said the system had only been in place for about 3 weeks. My check isn't even cashed yet. Just curious if any of you have seen results yet since they are telling me the ATF expects wait times with the barcode to drop to "as low as 3 months."
My dealer used the bar code on mine last month. I had them charge my CC instead of sending a check though, and it was charged a few days later.
Submitted a trust in Nov -16 called today still pending
my pre trust change took 8 1/2 months this time I'm at 11 months and still counting hoping for 13 months so Christmas ca be good
my pre trust change took 8 1/2 months this time I'm at 11 months and still counting hoping for 13 months so Christmas ca be good
Still waiting, and it's a trust with two persons. It's one of the first post 41f submissions and my first. Before 41f, they were coming back in 4 months. 14 months would be good at this point. Glad I bought assloads of suppressors last year.
Won't buy another until the times are unfucked. In another 14 months, we could get hit by a goddamn tsunami and this region could be unpopulated. I could die of old age.
Well, spoke too soon on that one! Just got the email hours after that and said the tax stamp is there! This was the first time I ever called ATF on a transfer, was wondering if one finally got lost.
Just looked at the original purchase... Goddamn that took a loooong time! Fucker was dated September of 2016! I actually bought it in June or July though, September to now was only the Form 4 wait time. The Form 3 took 2-3 months, which was kinda long even then IIRC.
Good luck and shorter waits for the rest of you!
Just looked at the original purchase... Goddamn that took a loooong time! Fucker was dated September of 2016! I actually bought it in June or July though, September to now was only the Form 4 wait time. The Form 3 took 2-3 months, which was kinda long even then IIRC.
Good luck and shorter waits for the rest of you!
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Be patient. It takes months. Don't bug 'em or call 'em, you know they have it and cashed the check. There's nothing you can do to expedite it unless you have several forms pending on your examiner's desk, and even then that's not guaranteed.
I just got mine today. It's the fastest I have heard of- submitted 5-18-17 approved 10-18-17. However I purchased one 2 months prior and I'm still waiting.
Silencerco Osprey .45
Form 4 Trust
Pending: 12 Oct 2016
Approved: 12 Oct 2017 (that's right. One fucking year to the day)
Picked up: Tonight (Dealer's been away hunting)
Form 4 Trust
Pending: 12 Oct 2016
Approved: 12 Oct 2017 (that's right. One fucking year to the day)
Picked up: Tonight (Dealer's been away hunting)
TBAC ultra 7 6.5
individual form 4
purchased 4/23
atf cashed 5/6
approved 10/13
picked up 10/25
individual form 4
purchased 4/23
atf cashed 5/6
approved 10/13
picked up 10/25
Private Form 4
Submitted: 02/07/17
Approved: 09/26/17
Form Received at FFL: 10/25/17
Finally have it in hand! Now I might submit a Form 1 for a SBR and another Form 4 for a 22LR can. Might as well start the wait again.
Submitted: 02/07/17
Approved: 09/26/17
Form Received at FFL: 10/25/17
Finally have it in hand! Now I might submit a Form 1 for a SBR and another Form 4 for a 22LR can. Might as well start the wait again.
Just picked mine up today.
Form 4 Trust (direct in-state purchase. No form 3 transfer), only 1 person on trust.
Sent paperwork in 9/20/16
Check cashed 9/27/16
They have the stamp dated 10/21/17 and the dealer called yesterday that the stamp arrived.
13 fucking months. What a joke.
Form 4 Trust (direct in-state purchase. No form 3 transfer), only 1 person on trust.
Sent paperwork in 9/20/16
Check cashed 9/27/16
They have the stamp dated 10/21/17 and the dealer called yesterday that the stamp arrived.
13 fucking months. What a joke.
Individual Form 4
Dead Air SandMan Ti
Submitted -5/31/17
ATF cashed check -6/1/17
Approved -11/15/17
Picked up -11/22/17
Right at 6 months!
Dead Air SandMan Ti
Submitted -5/31/17
ATF cashed check -6/1/17
Approved -11/15/17
Picked up -11/22/17
Right at 6 months!
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That has been the new norm on form 3's, 1-3 days.
Form 4's (Individuals) are still coming in a random 5-9 months depending on the examiners desk they land on. You would think with the drop in suppressor sales crap would be moving faster.
Form 4 Trust (one person)
Pending November 22, 2016
Just received a call to come to the FFL to amend the paperwork that was screwed up. Over a year just to find out a correction is needed. Hopefully I don’t drop to the bottom of the que! I won’t live in the same state come March.......
Update: Approved 12/18/2017, stamp arrived 12/23. Excited to get to the range!
Pending November 22, 2016
Just received a call to come to the FFL to amend the paperwork that was screwed up. Over a year just to find out a correction is needed. Hopefully I don’t drop to the bottom of the que! I won’t live in the same state come March.......
Update: Approved 12/18/2017, stamp arrived 12/23. Excited to get to the range!
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Most corrections are approved in a week or two if the dealer posts the control number on envelope it will help get to the right desk faster too. So if you are mailing it back, write it on envelope and highlight it.
Too late, the FFL already has it sent off lol. Two weeks would be alright considering it’s been over a year already.
no worries, it will get where it is needed, and be approved soon...maybe for Christmas!
I didn’t know I was buying myself a Christmas present over a year ago lol. Thanks for the info, I’m getting excited!
My dealer apparently forgot Page 3 of the Form 4 in the packet, so ATF sent him a letter. He faxed the Page 3 and i had the stamp in ~ 1.5 weeks.
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