Well, there are obvious reasons why not. Like all the bullets you can’t use because of that twist rate.
The Lee dies work, but that expander shaft collet nut needs to be super tight. If it was actually tight, you would be snatching the rims off the case instead pulling the shaft through the nut. My Lee die has the rod extending .085 above the nut which was tightened via a crescent wrench. You can spend your coin anyway you wish; but instead buying new dies I would purchase a K&M 6mm>30 and .338 expanders and the press adapter, less than $40 for those items. Further forming the 8.6 case from a well lubed( imperial die wax is my choice) 338 CM case is a piece cake.
I had K&M grind me a custom turning pilot that was conducive to my existing 338 expander. It was either try +.002/.003 larger expanders or try the custom pilot. I would have preferred the expander method, but the turning pilot was cheaper and works like champ.
FYI the Hornady system is very similar; it has very shallow “threads” in it but it’ll still slip if it’s not really locked down.
Well, fooey. Guess I should have dropped the big $. Learning curve for sure!
Agreed, if someone starts doing this round in something more reasonable twist barrels like 1/7 etc it’ll make this a much more realistic and user friendly round.
In case you need to turn some: I’ve been using the trim pro on mine. Had to make a couple mods and adjustments to make it efficient.
I almost picked up the .338L version for exactly this reason, but never pulled the trigger. Might be the perfect way to trim down the sized brass but wasn’t sure how length is set and didn’t research well enough to understand. Does it reference off of the shoulder for trim length?
Ya, it's possible I double charged it. I've since added an extra check before seeing bullets to hopefully prevent that.
I had to trim the decapping pinnoff mine as it was larger than my flash hole and ruined a bunch of brass
I also had a problem with mine, it was getting hung up in the flash hole and getting galled (surprising as I would have expected the brass to give way first) so I ended up having to file it down. Removing all together is probably wisest! Hopefully RCBS will come out with a die set soon… all these other budget oriented ones are leaving a lot to be desired!
What's wrong with your lee dies? Mine are flawless
I found that trimming with the cutoff to 1.75 then I camfer/debur on my case prep station then full length size, then final trim to oal, works great. 200 done and only 3 screw ups from tweaking setup of processes. You gotta lube the heck out of the inside neck if your doing it before cutting from what I've seen on the fb pages.
Get a PTG B-12 action if you want something closer to a 700 action. It’s a clone without all the headaches that come with the factory 700 actions.
I’m looking for this answer too…trying to set up on a XL750.
Aside from long wait times what have you had wrong with their stuff?
For a Dillon?
I have the Dillon powder through die but didn’t realize area 419 made one for that…but anyways the poster I believe wanted something he can use the powder hopper with. Which is the Q funnel. Also, do you mean to say B-12 action or was B-17 what you meant. I don’t see a B-17 action on their site. Is it an older action? The B-12 fits whatever I’ve put it into so…I dunno, not saying you’re not having issues but.
They sent me a Model 7 action with a gaping hole in the receiver where a bolt stop/release was supposed to be. I sent it back, they returned it with a blind pinned stop/release that didn't allow the bolt to come back far enough to strip rounds off the mag. That was a 8 month ordeal that ended with me buying a Defiance.
I can tell you that I tested with the Q funnel and there's not enough length in the funnel to fully actuate the Dillon powder measure. You run out of die adjustment downward hitting the shell plate just before you have enough upward motion to make it work. I also tried with with RL450 powder die with Redding 3BR powder measure and the case mouth is just short of making direct contact with the funnel. I suppose you could come up with some type of spacer that would fit within the die body, but I'm sure that could end up failing when you least want it to.
Yes you use a delrin spacer from ACE hardware over the top of the Q funnel. No powder spill and it’s been consistent. See attached photos.
Thanks! What's the length measurement as well, please?
It fits snug but it moves effortlessly with the action of the powder actuating motion. After about 120 rds of 8.6 Blackout it comes out with minimal effort, you just tip the die over and the weight of the funnel usually lets it drop out free of the die. Make sure when selecting the delrin spacer it’s the one that has a hole larger than the powder hopper drop tube underneath.
Sweet! Been waiting on one of these gems from someone! Ordered myself as well!
Nope the H110 i loaded with 350 rex makers. But got pressure signs at 16.2 grains. so keeping em ~ 15.9 gns.
I’m not seeing any issues at 16.2gr in a bolt gun.
I had the same issue. I literally too two wrenches (of correct size) and put one against my chest and pulled the other with both hands. . . not going anywhere!
Shouldn’t take that much effort try annealing the brass prior to sizing.
Hey Taylor, if you’re mounting a Remage barrel nut style barrel without a way to hold the barrel securely like in a modular barrel vice, you should put a piece of tape on the back of the go-gauge, then when you’re tightening the barrel nut the barrel turns slightly on it. It’s the nature of Remage setups.
Post some before and after measurements for both the fired and sized state of the brass base/shoulder/neck diameters and then the comparator reading for the shoulder set back.
